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    Lange xt free pro model LV

    Has anyone put a hand on these yet? I’m really looking to find out if they have a DIN sole w tech fittings? Reading makes it seem this way....

    Excited for 97mm last and not having to change all my bindings due to stupid wtr shit.


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    Lange xt free pro model LV

    They do. Tried them on at shop, liked em. My pair arrives Monday. Went 130 tho

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    Just a FYI, all the 18/19 Lange's are shipping with DIN soles. You can purchase a Gripwalk sole set to install if you want a rockered sole.
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    That’s great news. Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by detrusor View Post
    Has anyone put a hand on these yet? I’m really looking to find out if they have a DIN sole w tech fittings?
    Yes, they come with an ISO 5355 alpine sole on the boot. The pair I opened had a WTR sole in the box as well. Too stiff for me as well, I went with the 130 LV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    Yes, they come with an ISO 5355 alpine sole on the boot. The pair I opened had a WTR sole in the box as well. Too stiff for me as well, I went with the 130 LV.
    I got a pair on the way... found the first gen xt 130 to be a tad soft... hopefully these correct that.

    How's the flex feel in comparison to the rx130?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    How's the flex feel in comparison to the rx130?
    A bit softer than the RX, but I like the smoothness of the Dual Core. You shooting for 25.5 again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    A bit softer than the RX, but I like the smoothness of the Dual Core. You shooting for 25.5 again?
    I got my toes removed so I can size down to 24.5 this time. :Fm:

    The dual core Langes seem to be roomier than the og RX I had. I didn't need nearly as much boot work to fit in the latest gen RX. Barely any toe punches even.

    I'll pay a midweek visit sometime soon.

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    Anyone have a mid-season update on these?

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    Btw, one shop employee in Truckee was told by a Lange rep that the only difference between the 130 and 140 freetours is the liner.
    The shell is supposedly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    Btw, one shop employee in Truckee was told by a Lange rep that the only difference between the 130 and 140 freetours is the liner.
    The shell is supposedly the same.

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    That was my understanding. Can anyone confirm or deny? Really curious as I'm in the market but have a pair of zips I want to use instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyskirat View Post
    Anyone have a mid-season update on these?
    Have been skiing them and I’m happy. Mostly alpine and a little uphill. Only negative; not easy to get off your feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    Btw, one shop employee in Truckee was told by a Lange rep that the only difference between the 130 and 140 freetours is the liner.
    The shell is supposedly the same.

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    I think the 140 shell is stiffer fwiw... having skied both with the same liner but I could be wrong. Boot fitter remarked the plastic on the 140 was different than the 130 when he was punching and grinding my 140s

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    Btw, one shop employee in Truckee was told by a Lange rep that the only difference between the 130 and 140 freetours is the liner.
    The shell is supposedly the same.
    That used to be true of the RS 130/140, but a few different bootfitters have told me that the 140 Freetour uses stiffer plastic than the 130 Freetour. I don't know anyone who's skied the 130 and 140 Freetours side by side with the same liner, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    That used to be true of the RS 130/140, but a few different bootfitters have told me that the 140 Freetour uses stiffer plastic than the 130 Freetour. I don't know anyone who's skied them side by side with the same liner, though.
    me, in worn out RX130 liners. XT140s are stiffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    me, in worn out RX130 liners. XT140s are stiffer
    hmm. not stiffer, but different. I have 130 days in my original RX liners and I can keep the buckles slammed all day without discomfort.

    The flex is comparable, but not as progressive IMO.

    For me, the continued ramp-up of the rx130 makes it the stronger boot. I definitely prefer it in variable and hard snow conditions, but the XT is a nice daily driver and rad for boot packs and work. Also feels much lighter on the foot, which is nice if you're gonna be in ski boots all day long. The XT feels to have a more upright stance, even with a WC spoiler attached, leading to a less aggressive feel as well. As Luke noted, the lower cuff does clamp down on the instep when removing the boots if you're not careful. Luckily that part of the boot flexes softer than the RX so I can manually control those flaps and keep them off my tender bits when removing it.

    All in all, I'm happy with the boot. Like the RX, the new dual-core mold is a much better fit than the old XT, except I had to have a few additional modifications done, such as the mega low volume toe box, which was giving me very cold and bruised toenails. That was an easy fix by the bootfitter. The ultralon liner does not breathe as well as the RX, but has a better more comfortable face fabric compared to the standard Intuition, a la Dreamliner.

    Good boots, wouldn't want to tour very far in them, unless the descent was absolutely worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    Btw, one shop employee in Truckee was told by a Lange rep that the only difference between the 130 and 140 freetours is the liner.
    The shell is supposedly the same.

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    I do think the shell is different, as well as the liner, plus the "pro" has a monster spoiler added to it for rearward support that the 130 does not have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    hmm. not stiffer, but different. I have 130 days in my original RX liners and I can keep the buckles slammed all day without discomfort.

    The flex is comparable, but not as progressive IMO.

    For me, the continued ramp-up of the rx130 makes it the stronger boot. I definitely prefer it in variable and hard snow conditions, but the XT is a nice daily driver and rad for boot packs and work. Also feels much lighter on the foot, which is nice if you're gonna be in ski boots all day long. The XT feels to have a more upright stance, even with a WC spoiler attached, leading to a less aggressive feel as well. As Luke noted, the lower cuff does clamp down on the instep when removing the boots if you're not careful. Luckily that part of the boot flexes softer than the RX so I can manually control those flaps and keep them off my tender bits when removing it.

    All in all, I'm happy with the boot. Like the RX, the new dual-core mold is a much better fit than the old XT, except I had to have a few additional modifications done, such as the mega low volume toe box, which was giving me very cold and bruised toenails. That was an easy fix by the bootfitter. The ultralon liner does not breathe as well as the RX, but has a better more comfortable face fabric compared to the standard Intuition, a la Dreamliner.

    Good boots, wouldn't want to tour very far in them, unless the descent was absolutely worth it.
    I'm pretty sure LVS was talking about the 140 Freetour to the 130 Freetour. At least, that's what I was talking/asking about. 140 Freetour compared to RS130 is apples to oranges. A lighter boot with a walk mode just isn't gonna ski like a heavy boot with a rigid spine, even if it's as stiff/stiffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    I'm pretty sure LVS was talking about the 140 Freetour to the 130 Freetour. At least, that's what I was talking/asking about. 140 Freetour compared to RS130 is apples to oranges. A lighter boot with a walk mode just isn't gonna ski like a heavy boot with a rigid spine.
    gotcha. surprisingly, xt140/rx130 are very close in performance to the point that I was confused by his comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    hmm. not stiffer, but different. I have 130 days in my original RX liners and I can keep the buckles slammed all day without discomfort.

    The flex is comparable, but not as progressive IMO.

    For me, the continued ramp-up of the rx130 makes it the stronger boot. I definitely prefer it in variable and hard snow conditions, but the XT is a nice daily driver and rad for boot packs and work. Also feels much lighter on the foot, which is nice if you're gonna be in ski boots all day long. The XT feels to have a more upright stance, even with a WC spoiler attached, leading to a less aggressive feel as well. As Luke noted, the lower cuff does clamp down on the instep when removing the boots if you're not careful. Luckily that part of the boot flexes softer than the RX so I can manually control those flaps and keep them off my tender bits when removing it.

    All in all, I'm happy with the boot. Like the RX, the new dual-core mold is a much better fit than the old XT, except I had to have a few additional modifications done, such as the mega low volume toe box, which was giving me very cold and bruised toenails. That was an easy fix by the bootfitter. The ultralon liner does not breathe as well as the RX, but has a better more comfortable face fabric compared to the standard Intuition, a la Dreamliner.

    Good boots, wouldn't want to tour very far in them, unless the descent was absolutely worth it.
    I should clarify. XT130 vs Xt140 in RX130 liners... RX130 is a more powerful boot. XT130 feels very soft. XT140 feels similar overall stiffness to RX130, just more harsh and the rearward flex isn't as supportive for all those big backseat hucks we all do.

    (That said I hundreds of days in RX130s... so far 1 day in the XT140. I am bringing them to Europe so will have better feedback on XT140 by the end of trip.)

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    This makes me want an XT140. Ugh.

    Ideal boot quiver:
    ZB - inbounds
    XT140 - pow touring, travel, inbounds @ < 10F
    ZG TP - daily touring
    2020 Travers Carbon - skimo, traverses, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    This makes me want an XT140. Ugh.

    Ideal 4 boot quiver:
    ZB - charging
    XT140 - charging when cold, travel, pow touring
    ZG TP - daily touring
    2020 Travers Carbon - skimo, traverses, etc
    I just bought skibrd's ZB... so I'm:
    ZB (Hardsnow facemelt groomer laps)
    RX RI (Pink Panther/140 - daily driver)
    XT140 (Travel/Short Downhill Focused Lift Assist tours)
    TLT5P (Skimo/Spring Tours)

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    ZB to pink panther comparo would be appreciated.

    ZBs ski amazing -- been my only inbounds boot for the past 3 "seasons" (not that I've skied all that much) -- but despite massive amounts of boot work, they're not really wide enough for my fat feet to ski for more than a few days in a row without pain. Also my feet freeze when it's < ~5F, even with boot gloves and external toe warmers.
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    Sounds like I may go for the XT140 for my new touring boot.

    Don't do many long tours (6 miles+) so carrying extra weight is meh to me.

    Also are easier to fit into race ski bindings for those coaching days where demos are required by its f@#*ing cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    I don't know anyone who's skied the 130 and 140 Freetours side by side with the same liner, though.
    I have both. I use the actual same liners for each (either Zipfit for resort or TourWrap for sledski/tour).

    The 140 is noticeably stiffer. Though it’s also newer.

    The rep said something about an updated walk mode on the pro. But I can’t see a difference other than colour. Maybe materials & tolerances??? I dunno.

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