Homeless America by Chris Hedges

**fastfred** · 06-06-2023, 09:32 AM

Hugs and kisses truth hurts

Go buy your favorite homeless person socks and underwear

been there done that

Ask their families why they gave up "helping" being honest hurts

Call me what you want I know more than what you watched on some documentary on net flicks or saw on 60 mins

**Yonder_River** · 06-06-2023, 09:38 AM

Hey guys, fred in his mountain hamlet, has it all figured out. And he deals with this stuff on the reg.

**Ted Striker** · 06-06-2023, 09:42 AM

Fred's just a character someone plays on the internet.

**fastfred** · 06-06-2023, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Yonder_River

Hey guys, fred in his mountain hamlet, has it all figured out. And he deals with this stuff on the reg.

You bet

Make sure you think real hard when you a serving up meals at the shelter from Thanksgiving to Christmas you know that time 9f year where everyone wants to pretend to make a difference

Hey and while your at it let me know the last tome you filled someone's commiserary account prepaid tv card phone minutes how about the nuances that go along with doing that plus the huge fees

You clowns are talking way over your heads

Glad everyone cares so much

**Peruvian** · 06-06-2023, 10:28 AM

According to fred, the 2.5 million homeless kids are nothing but deadbeats, drunks, and drug addicts.

**mcphee** · 06-06-2023, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

According to fred, the 2.5 million homeless kids are nothing but deadbeats, drunks, and drug addicts.

^pretty soon those kids will all be able to forgo school and get real jobs!

**skaredshtles** · 06-06-2023, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

According to fred, the 2.5 million homeless kids are nothing but deadbeats, drunks, and drug addicts.

I mean... they chose very poorly with regards to parents, so screw 'em.

**mcphee** · 06-06-2023, 10:36 AM

Fred can soon solve some child homelessness AND labor cost headaches in one fell swoop! A huge win for millionaire reactionary GC’s across the country!

**AdironRider** · 06-06-2023, 10:44 AM

I live in what most would consider the most expensive area of NH, yet, even here, you can buy a house for sub 200k within a 30 minute drive. Minimum wage is also basically 20 bucks an hour for McDonalds, or 25+ for anything above that. Yet those jobs remain unfilled and there are vagrants all over every motel parking lot just across the river in Vermont and everyone talks big game about fixing problems yet the problems only get worse.

Maybe homelessness isn't a choice for some but get the fuck outta here it isn't a choice for most. Drug addicts that can't hold a job made a bed for themselves. I'm ok with helping them out of it but at a certain point the onus is on them to stay clean and not be a burden on society.

**jackstraw** · 06-06-2023, 10:50 AM

Umm, no you don't. Wtf r u talking about? You grew up in the most expensive place, but the VT border is not it. You can't find a dog house for 200k on the coast.

And jfc...mental illness kids. Mental illness. Wrap your brain around it. If that's not possible, you, yes YOU, have a mental illness. You're lacking a connection in that cranium of yours even though you hold down a job and have a house, you're still mentally ill just to a lesser degree than the poor bastards who cannot get out of their own way.

**AdironRider** · 06-06-2023, 10:53 AM

Hanover makes the seacoast look cheap but fine, lets play your game. Less than 20 minutes to downtown Portsmouth:

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...7_M33352-15137

That house qualifies for a 0 down USDA rural development loan by the way.

And if it is just mental illness, commit them and get them off the street because your current structure of support is failing miserably.

**mcphee** · 06-06-2023, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by AdironRider

Less than 20 minutes to downtown Portsmouth.

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...7_M33352-15137

Makes a point about sub200k houses. Posts a 240k house to prove his point. Just the dumbest reactionaries on the planet inhabit this place.

**jackstraw** · 06-06-2023, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by AdironRider

Less than 20 minutes to downtown Portsmouth.

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...7_M33352-15137

That is not Rockingham County. Everyone knows Rochester has the worst school district and is been rottenchester forever. 20 minutes going 70mph, yes.

**AdironRider** · 06-06-2023, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by jackstraw

That is not Rockingham County. Everyone knows Rochester has the worst school district and is been rottenchester forever. 20 minutes going 70mph, yes.

There you go with the choice thing now, which is a very different statement than you can't touch anything affordable near the coast.

Like the option is a super cheap house in an amazing school district or homelessness.

None of your bullshit arguments change that 95% of homeless are there because they made some terrible decisions in their life.

**skaredshtles** · 06-06-2023, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by AdironRider

And if it is just mental illness, commit them and get them off the street because your current structure of support is failing miserably.

Commitment is one part, for sure, IMO. I'd strongly suggest electing representatives that support such things.

Related article: https://www.npr.org/2017/11/30/56747...-health-crisis

**mcphee** · 06-06-2023, 11:08 AM

*he won’t though and then use the well worn “mah tackses” argument*

**Peruvian** · 06-06-2023, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by AdironRider

Maybe homelessness isn't a choice for some but get the fuck outta here it isn't a choice for most. Drug addicts that can't hold a job made a bed for themselves.

Yeah, those damn druggies that got into a workplace accident and were over-prescribed Oxycodone to the point that they became addicted and then couldn't get it so they had to turn to the streets to feed their Sackler family inspired opioid addiction.

And yes, that's hyperbole, but at least I'm willing to admit when it is.

https://nida.nih.gov/publications/re...tor-heroin-use

**californiagrown** · 06-06-2023, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Peruvian

According to fred, the 2.5 million homeless kids are nothing but deadbeats, drunks, and drug addicts.

Wut? Even the highest estimates ive seen put homelessness (regardless of age) in america at less than 1 million (quite a bit less). Or do you mean cumulatively over the years? Regardless, these kids are innocent and usually victims of some cycle of abuse (DV, drugs, poor financial decisions, etc). Id prioritize kids over adults, but that would involve removing kids from their parents and the foster system is as (or more) fucked than their parents usually.

Anyways, i think its obvious that Fred is close to one or more homeless folks and has suffered trying to help them. His fresh anger and biterness is reminiscent of someone who has similarly strong negative feelings toward drug addicts or victims of suicide. The anger phase can last a while.

**cat in january** · 06-06-2023, 11:17 AM

https://schoolonwheels.org/homelessn...nited%20States.

Not saying the statistics are pure, but there is your reference

**jackstraw** · 06-06-2023, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by AdironRider

There you go with the choice thing now, which is a very different statement than you can't touch anything affordable near the coast.

Like the option is a super cheap house in an amazing school district or homelessness.

None of your bullshit arguments change that 95% of homeless are there because they made some terrible decisions in their life.

So 200k is affordable for homeless people. Yeah, ok.

Terrible decisions eh? You're such a typical trump cock sucking moran. I'm making a terrible decision for engaging with an idiot like you.

**AdironRider** · 06-06-2023, 11:40 AM

The point is that is affordable at basically the minimum wage (what McD's is paying), so if they didn't want to be on the street, they wouldn't have to be because they could take a job that has zero qualifications and have a roof over their head.

But that is a choice they would have to make.

**Ted Striker** · 06-06-2023, 11:41 AM

Every credible organization acknowledges that the counts are way low.

**mcphee** · 06-06-2023, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by AdironRider

The point is that is affordable at basically the minimum wage (what McD's is paying), so if they didn't want to be on the street, they wouldn't have to be because they could take a job that has zero qualifications and have a roof over their head.

But that is a choice they would have to make.

Please pencil out how a 200k house **all in per month-P/I, Tax, insurance, PMI** is affordable on 41600/yr gross (your figure of 20/hr)

**californiagrown** · 06-06-2023, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by cat in january

https://schoolonwheels.org/homelessn...nited%20States.

Not saying the statistics are pure, but there is your reference

Yeah, that is, IMO an extremely loose definition of homeless which resulted in a number 20x higher than the official counts (which are notorious undercounts, but not by 20x). Regardless it corresponds to the number of kids with shelter insecurity which in itself is not good and something to be addressed.

**Peruvian** · 06-06-2023, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by AdironRider

The point is that is affordable at basically the minimum wage (what McD's is paying), so if they didn't want to be on the street, they wouldn't have to be because they could take a job that has zero qualifications and have a roof over their head.

But that is a choice they would have to make.

At $20/hour and using 30% of take home for housing that leaves under $1,000 month for rent or mortgage/taxes. I checked Zillow for the greater Manchester, NH area and saw 1 (one) listed at or below this and honestly it looked like a scam. This also assumed that the person has not previously been evicted (how did they become homeless), can put up first/last months rent up front, and pass the credit check.

Your assumptions don’t pass the sniff test.