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    Kartel 108 Binding question

    Wanted to get everyone's opinion on which bindings I should order. I recently bought some on3p Kartel 108 in 181cm. Which one of the following should I buy:

    Pivot 12 AW B95mm

    or

    Pivot 12 AW B115mm

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    Red ones.

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    kartel 108s w/ pivot 14 wtr b115mm - bent in a bit, zero issues.
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    so yeah, i would prob go with b115s and bend them in a bit rather than the other way other way around. More experienced pivot-users - please correct me if i am mistaken here, my history with pivots is one year deep.

    red ones is kinda a given. Unless you wanna go all retro of course, where retro possibly trumps red - as long as they are orange.

    man, sometimes i just crack myself up.

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    Thanks for the input kid kapow. I appreciate it. I've heard people running the 95s on the kartel 108s. Just don't want to bend one of the brakes while ridding switch with the 115s.

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    Or buy my brand new Attack2 GW 13’s with 110mm brakes for $130 and never worry about bending brakes and messing up the entire baseplate like the pivots (;

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    seems like you had the answer all along then Well, now you've seen both, so either way apparently work. Or just go for muggy's. I would've snapped photos with the boots in the bindings, but alas - i am nowhere close to the skis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid-kapow View Post
    seems like you had the answer all along then Well, now you've seen both, so either way apparently work. Or just go for muggy's. I would've snapped photos with the boots in the bindings, but alas - i am nowhere close to the skis.
    Do you ski switch very much?

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    I never understood why people preferred the Pivots for park skiing, specifically because if you eject skiing switch, the brakes A: tend to break and B: cost $75 to replace.

    Other bindings (STH2, Attack) do not tend to mess up the brakes if you eject skiing switch, and if you do, they cost $20 to replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    I never understood why people preferred the Pivots for park skiing, specifically because if you eject skiing switch, the brakes A: tend to break and B: cost $75 to replace.

    Other bindings (STH2, Attack) do not tend to mess up the brakes if you eject skiing switch, and if you do, they cost $20 to replace.
    I don't ski park, but ski switch. but ya that makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muggydude View Post
    I never understood why people preferred the Pivots for park skiing, specifically because if you eject skiing switch, the brakes A: tend to break and B: cost $75 to replace.

    Other bindings (STH2, Attack) do not tend to mess up the brakes if you eject skiing switch, and if you do, they cost $20 to replace.
    The elasticity allows you to hold onto non-perfect landings without blowing out of your binding like you would on most other bindings. The downside, is the brake issue you mention.

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