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    NBA 2018/2019 thread

    Heís a max player but possibly the kind that sinks your chances long term. He had better be working on a jump shot right now.


    Not sure how they could in anyway pay more than a max. The supermax terms are very specific, and even if he could shoot he wouldnít be bumping Curry and Harden from All NBA. I guess Kemba but thereís Beal and Thompson right there too.

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    Fair enough on Simmons. I don't think of him as a max player with his current game but a) I get the gamble and b) somebody else would eventually pay him max regardless, so there's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    I hope Kawhi stays, but I have no idea what that guy is thinking.
    I think heís heading to the Lakers.

    Besides my 2 or 3 teams I enjoy (generally the Nuggets plus whatever teams some individuals I like are on) I like it when the NBA is a soap opera. KL to the Lakers is a soap opera. So Iím all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    When motivated, Boogie is a much better defender than GSW saw. Not saying he wasn't motivated this past year, just that he was coming back from injury.

    I will take him if the Cs sign him, he's too freaking good not to. When healthy, he's only a slight tick below Jokic and Embiid, he's a stud. And I can only hope that the last 2 years have made him outgrow some of his bullshit from the Kangz days.
    Either he isnít a good defender or heís never been motivated. I love Boogie and his attitude but his mental lapses are a near constant.

    A slight tick below Embiid and Jokic? No fucking way.


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    ^^^^exactly

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    In his last healthy year with NO, he averaged 25ppg, 12.9rpg, 5.4apg, 1.6spg, 1.6bpg. And those numbers were fairly representative of his career. Even added good 3 point shooting his last 2 healthy years (but sucked this year). His career PER is over 22 (10th among all active players). All-NBA 2nd team, twice. All star team 4 times (in the West, where it isn't as easy).

    Dude was a BEAST. Yes, he's always been a headcase. But that has been his problem, not lack of star talent. Other than his short stint in NO with AD (and his recent turn with GSW), he has never played with talent around him, and played on one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the NBA. You guys either never paid attention or have forgotten how good he was. For his entire time in the NBA (before the injury), the question has always been whether he could stop being a headcase, not whether he had all league talent. And while defense was never his strongest point, he has played good defense, he's not incapable of it. Or at least he wasn't incapable of it, the injury could change that. But he;s worth the risk.

    So yes. If he returns to the pre-injury Boogie, I stand by my "tick below Embiid and Jokic" comment.
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    Jeff Green to the Jazz, love how they have stepped up to make the most of their window, They are definitely going to be a contender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    Fair enough on Simmons. I don't think of him as a max player with his current game but a) I get the gamble and b) somebody else would eventually pay him max regardless, so there's that.
    I'm not saying Philly shouldn't have done it - they were in a tough spot and didn't have much choice. Although a slight discount would have been better - Draymond had done more at this point in his career and didn't get the max.

    I think there should be a market for Boogie. When he got back into shape in the spring with the Warriors he had some games where he absolutely owned both Capela and Jokic. And with Jokic and Denver as legit title contenders next year, someone will look at those tapes and want his services eventually. He really did put on a show that last game they played. Boogie is weird on defense... sometimes he sucks, other times you're like, holy shit, this guy is good. Not sure if it's effort or matchups or what. He's an enigma. Either way, he's probably better in the locker room than KD. ;-)

    So glad to be done with the KD drama even if we won't be as good. Shit was exhausting and he sucked the fun out of last season - I really didn't enjoy it, other than the end of the Houston series and Portland series when he was out. I'm legit more excited about next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    Jeff Green to the Jazz, love how they have stepped up to make the most of their window, They are definitely going to be a contender.
    Prolly cheaper for me to fly OAK-SLC than go to a game at Chase Center. Gotta see when Dubs play Jazz in SLC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 54-46 View Post
    Prolly cheaper for me to fly OAK-SLC than go to a game at Chase Center. Gotta see when Dubs play Jazz in SLC...
    I would make an effort to go to that game just to hang out with you
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    Hey, I'm there too, if we can make it a TRG Dubs/Jazz night out. You in TahoeJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate View Post
    Hey, I'm there too, if we can make it a TRG Dubs/Jazz night out. You in TahoeJ?
    Possibly, yeah. Especially if we can roll it into some skiing as well. Haven't been skiing in Utah since 2014 and I've been wanting to make it back. It's such an easy trip with Southwest flights out of Oakland.

    Why does Jeff Green keep getting 1 year minimum contracts? Does his agent suck? Nice signing by the Jazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate View Post
    Hey, I'm there too, if we can make it a TRG Dubs/Jazz night out. You in TahoeJ?
    Thatíd be great to hook up w everyone. Def during ski season. Have an Ikon pass...

    Last year Dubs were at Jazz 1/30 and 4/10...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    He’s a max player but possibly the kind that sinks your chances long term. He had better be working on a jump shot right now.
    Same with Murray on the Nugs now. He better be working on his jump shot (specifically consistency) as well because he certainly doesn't have the physical gifts that Simmons can lean on.

    Someone would have maxed Murray next summer I'm pretty certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    Zers have gotten better for sure. It's going to be a very interesting season out west.
    Yo Rev.
    Lets go old school and resurrect our old bet from days of yore when the Jazz and Zers contended for the West. Bottle of brown to whoever's team goes farther in the playoffs?

    Love what the Jazz have done on every level this summer. Good smart moves,

    Kanter is a decent player but a punk ass bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Love what the Jazz have done on every level this summer. Good smart moves,
    Except Jeff Green. That guy sucks. There is a reason he's been on 8 teams in 12 years. Mental softness personified.

    But yeah, I think the Jazz might win it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Kanter is a decent player but a punk ass bitch
    No kidding. What a fucking drama queen.

    I think Jeff Green is a steal on a minimum deal. Surprised he didn't hold out to see if Kawhi goes to LA and just sign the same deal there. He had some good games in the finals.

    BTW - I think Philly picking up Horford was super smart. They know they're going to need to get past Milwaukee in the foreseeable future and Horford gives Giannis a lot of trouble. They still need more perimeter shooting, however.

    Also pretty stoked the Warriors retained Looney for only 3 / 15 - that's a crazy good deal. He's our new Iggy. Maybe not quite the same, but he still fits the spot in some ways.

    This off season has to be the most up in the air the league has been in quite some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate View Post
    Hey, I'm there too, if we can make it a TRG Dubs/Jazz night out. You in TahoeJ?
    Letís do it. All the new signings convinced me throw down for some season tickets this year, though Iím up in the cheap seats. Just need Kawhi to stay out east and we may be the front runners.

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    Pacers pick up TJ McConnell to add to TJ Leaf and TJ Warren. Unstoppable.
    It sucks to suck.

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    Iíve got a pretty good buddy named TJ. Iím gonna have to call him to see if heís planning a move to Indiana.


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    People are kind of sleeping on the Pacers... with a healthy Olidapo back next year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Yo Rev.
    Lets go old school and resurrect our old bet from days of yore when the Jazz and Zers contended for the West. Bottle of brown to whoever's team goes farther in the playoffs?

    Love what the Jazz have done on every level this summer. Good smart moves,

    Kanter is a decent player but a punk ass bitch
    I don't about these white devils but you know I'm game. Bottle of Van Winkle suffice? All you Jizz fans are mighty confident around here in a pretty loaded conference... Just the way I like it. Tie breaker is presumably games won in that round, then total points scored in that round if necessary?

    Any other Jizz guzzlers want a piece of this action?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    In his last healthy year with NO, he averaged 25ppg, 12.9rpg, 5.4apg, 1.6spg, 1.6bpg. And those numbers were fairly representative of his career. Even added good 3 point shooting his last 2 healthy years (but sucked this year). His career PER is over 22 (10th among all active players). All-NBA 2nd team, twice. All star team 4 times (in the West, where it isn't as easy).

    Dude was a BEAST. Yes, he's always been a headcase. But that has been his problem, not lack of star talent. Other than his short stint in NO with AD (and his recent turn with GSW), he has never played with talent around him, and played on one of the most dysfunctional franchises in the NBA. You guys either never paid attention or have forgotten how good he was. For his entire time in the NBA (before the injury), the question has always been whether he could stop being a headcase, not whether he had all league talent. And while defense was never his strongest point, he has played good defense, he's not incapable of it. Or at least he wasn't incapable of it, the injury could change that. But he;s worth the risk.

    So yes. If he returns to the pre-injury Boogie, I stand by my "tick below Embiid and Jokic" comment.
    I can't agree with this more. Boogie is an amazing talent. But he's got that super talented lazy man game like antoine walker or melo. These dudes just see the game different than the rest of us. Like they somehow find themselves in the passing lane intercepting a pass type vision. We'll see how this next season goes for him, but I wouldn't expect him to get a huge deal. Seems like a gamble based on the type of player he is and what he could do to your team chemistry. Shit, no one is willing to give melo another run and I think melo could still help out a NBA team.

    I'm stoked with Jeff Green for the jazz. I'm still quietly hoping we can get Vince Carter to do a coach-player stint on the jazz. I mean every other washed up basketball journeyman seems to play a season near the end with the jazz haha

    and fuck Kanter. that dude thinks he's much better than he is, which I think is a flaw in a player. Definitely is a good asset (14 pts, 8 rebs career guess) when he's not destroying locker room chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater View Post
    I don't about these white devils but you know I'm game. Bottle of Van Winkle suffice? All you Jizz fans are mighty confident around here in a pretty loaded conference... Just the way I like it. Tie breaker is presumably games won in that round, then total points scored in that round if necessary?

    Any other Jizz guzzlers want a piece of this action?

    As a jazz fan, I'm not overconfident in this team, I like the moves the team made, but the big signings are guys in their 30s. They'll be competitive and it shows your star that you desperately need to get to agree to a contract extension soon that you are committed to winning now. But contenders for the title is a stretch in my book.

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    ok jazz fans....hows this raul neto the sixers just picked up?

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