WASATCH STOKE, CONDITIONS, OBSERVATIONS, AND ASSORTED DRIVAL 18-19

[detrusor]

I think the fewer crowds at solitude ship sailed with the Ikon pass.

Had a lot of friends jump ship together BCC side last few years and are now coming back to LCC because of parking and crowds.

No real data to support this, just pre-work musings


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[skifishbum]

I stand with Alta. They have been the preeminent steward of LCC for 80+ years and know whats best for this special sliver of the Wasatch.

I also find the amount of childish and butthurt vitriol directed towards Alta by the Ski Touring community to be extremely amusing. They have supplanted the snowboarders in this regard. Feel free to voice your displeasure but you end up looking like a dickhead imo

says the no cred jong with 248 dickhead failed attempts at community enhancement

Let me put it another way. On the ski patrol at Alta, there was one turnover last year...to a returning patrol person. This year had one turnover.
They must be doing something right seeing how patrolmen are paid the same as sister resorts with 20x the turnover!

fuck me
i was so gonna come candidate today
hope to come scrubbin bubble ski ya soon
in mountain accord prices your posts are worth upwards of $10,000
but they need another couple mil in the 8 millions gone kitty
fore you summit a bill for em
pow mows openin today but not till 1pm

[telefreewasatch]

Snowsheds are a band aid. An expensive as shit band aid.
The road is in the wrong place for safety.
There is room to park thousands of cars at the mouth of LCC. North side; extend the park and ride west up to 1/2 mile there on Forest Service land (which is where the existing park and ride came from).
Except for the Dillard place there on the right, its all FS land.
Parking garages...
Start charging a road fee if you don't use mass transit to pay for it all.
A gondola would not have to be a 45 minute ride.
The euros have this shit figured out.

BTW 1" h2o at the Alta last 24 hrs, hardly any wind.
Git some!!!

[Dantheman]

Alta loses out on major revenue by not having lodging and no restaurant on the Wildcat side. I think it's perfectly reasonable for a land swap and I don't see any downside. Alta would get base area property from the FS that is in a developed area. GG reverts to the FS and everybody's pretty happy.

Cutting off their nose to spite their face.

It's worth pointing out that Snowbird, which stands to benefit just as much as Alta from any potential transportation solution, is giving up all future interest in White Pine under CWNCRA as currently written.

It's also worth pointing out that UDOT has already allocated $60 million to improve access/congestion/parking in LCC and is in the middle of preparing a massive EIS to that effect. So, Alta's insistence that nothing is being done on the transportation front is disingenuous at best.

[detrusor]

Appreciate the insight telefreewasatch. I was amazed at my first trip to Europe....The roads are sketchy as shit, high any danger. People use the trams and gondolas for access.

[mall walker]

winter up there... too cold for pics but this morning skied damn good. also the most whumphing I’ve heard in a while... stay frosty.

e: 13" seemed about right in the brighton store lot... managed to get stuck even with awd + m+s tires, thanks for gnarchived and skiatl for pushing me out lol. might need some real snows, is there a thread about that anywhere I can consult?

[mall walker]

says the no cred jong with 248 dickhead failed attempts at community enhancement

in fairness he is the expert on “looking like a dickhead”

[thedrew55]

I think the fewer crowds at solitude ship sailed with the Ikon pass.

Had a lot of friends jump ship together BCC side last few years and are now coming back to LCC because of parking and crowds.

No real data to support this, just pre-work musings


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I worried about Solitude getting overrun with IKON. I'd love to get more information about how things go there this season.

As bad as parking and crowds are up BCC, is it worse than LCC? I've been switching between both every year, and both are junk shows on busy days, but LCC seems slightly worse, especially Alta. Alta does seem to have more actual parking, but seems to get filled fast.

[itsnowjoke]

Cutting off their nose to spite their face.

It's worth pointing out that Snowbird, which stands to benefit just as much as Alta from any potential transportation solution, is giving up all future interest in White Pine under CWNCRA as currently written.

It's also worth pointing out that UDOT has already allocated $60 million to improve access/congestion/parking in LCC and is in the middle of preparing a massive EIS to that effect. So, Alta's insistence that nothing is being done on the transportation front is disingenuous at best.

Again, the clincher was that Alta was going to cede Grizzly Gulch in exchange for the building of a train.
The train was not Alta's idea, they were just going along for the ride. The train is not being built. On the flip-side, it was disingenuous for parties to offer a train that they couldn't deliver, stalling Alta's efforts. It worked for a couple of years, actually, but this outcome was predictable.

[telefreewasatch]

fuck me
i was so gonna come candidate today
hope to come scrubbin bubble ski ya soon
in mountain accord prices your posts are worth upwards of $10,000
but they need another couple mil in the 8 millions gone kitty
fore you summit a bill for em
pow mows openin today but not till 1pm

That 8 million that Mtn. Accord spent on nothing could have gone a long way towards land acquisition / parking development at the bottom of BCC and LCC. What a waste of dollars, eh?
Gotta start somewhere with this problem.
May as well start at the beginning!

[happytimefunbox]

Seems like a consensus could form around far expanded parking at LCC mouth and increased public transport whether bus, gondy, train, lama or donkey rides or my personal favorite ATATs from starwars which are 20 Meters high and have blast impervious Armour plating.



Seems like a reasonable first step towards an end game that works for most everyone concerned. Doesn't spenda Bizzilion up front and we could push for it now while the monied interests figure out how to spend our tax money for their end game. Whether that be better skier experience ala Altiod, or more evil mountain top castles and carnival rides for the burd.

Now if only ASL could build a ski lift in grizz AND guarantee human powered access through and sidecountry access into grizz for the turn earners then even slowboarders could still not lose access to grizzy g and we could all COEXIST in harmony, even with snowjoker and sirheadinjury



Much love and respect TFW for all your hard work keeping us skiers on top of the greatest of snows

[happytimefunbox]

Oh and I am sick and may miss skiing this weekend so it's guranteed to be double overhead blower unicorn tears of love and joy.....

[mall walker]

Oh and I am sick and may miss skiing this weekend so it's guranteed to be double overhead blower unicorn tears of love and joy.....

dude... take some emergen-c or something...

[whyturn]

North facing is good but it’s holding well. It was pretty heavy but that is great to cover twigs and such

[happytimefunbox]

dude... take some emergen-c or something...

My buddy from magma gave me a lil baggie of special crystals said I should smoke em or eat em and it'll give me enough energy to go ski tomorrow and if I keep after it all weekend. He said it makes you itchy a bit but if I scratch through my pattaguch I will just broform a new one.

I should be ohhhhhh kay and will probably make a diving save and be there for first tram, cough real hard and infect the whole boat to cull the heard for next weekend.

[boardtodeath]

Is it just me or is the snowbird snow stake camera no more? Is there any snow stake webcam in LCC anymore? Seems like kinda a fucked up oversight.

[brutah]

skiing was damn good this morning in grizzly gulch, like faceshots on every turn good.
Tons of people out there too, haven't taken one ski action shot all season so no stoke from today.
seasons really shaping up nicely

[zion zig zag]

North facing is good but it’s holding well. It was pretty heavy but that is great to cover twigs and such

Nice. Surprised they are running the triple.

[TWA]

Long time member and lurker just never post. Maybe I’ll change that.

But I’m a 9-5 keyboard warrior these days and have an Icon pass with the rest off the State. Live up in PC and won’t ski that mess. Speaking off mess, scared to be apart of traffic and morning mess tomorrow. Plan to bounce around Alta tomorrow morning for day 1. Dirty green Arteryx jacket and black pants. Say hi!

[jmedslc]

Long time member and lurker just never post. Maybe I’ll change that.

But I’m a 9-5 keyboard warrior these days and have an Icon pass with the rest off the State. Live up in PC and won’t ski that mess. Speaking off mess, scared to be apart of traffic and morning mess tomorrow. Plan to bounce around Alta tomorrow morning for day 1. Dirty green Arteryx jacket and black pants. Say hi!

yeah i'm expecting solitude to get CRUSHED this year w Ikon. we'll see.....and billie get some snow tires dude! sheesh.

[monkeywrenchMoose]

Creamy turns today at Alta. That heavy snow sure is fun when it is fresh and only boot top high.

[schindlerpiste]

Same at The Can. Tomorrow. the Driveway may be the ticket.

[mall walker]

yeah i'm expecting solitude to get CRUSHED this year w Ikon. we'll see.....and billie get some snow tires dude! sheesh.

hey man if they could just keep shit plowed up there it wouldn't be an issue... are you the mayor of brighton yet?? who do I write my angry letter to??

[getoutside]

reynolds rode well this am. things are indeed, shaping up nicely.

[jtran10]

First lap at alta was realllll good. Tower 10 tracked out in moments and didnt feel like working hard enough on day 1 of real skiing to jitterboot. Bet Greeley was $$$.

ASP up on the T today..bet it opens in the next few days. No ballroom or shoulder today either

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