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  1. #2351
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    What I see is less cars but a count system and cops at bottom really slowing it down. Where is the gondola or something else?


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    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

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    2018/2019 (24/32)

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    Which businesses will force a solution? The already crowded ski areas, or the hotels whose guests arrive by shuttle busses?

    Teleskiwasatch is right... they will force a solution: it will involve more lifts and inbounds terrain, not whatever pipe dream SOC is attached to at the moment.

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    Having Solitude charge for parking is gonna fuck Brighton... Brighton's lot will fill even faster than last year and increase crowds on mountain.

    Without a comprehensive transit plan, including a ton more parking near the mouth of the both CC canyons, this is just a cash grab, assholery move by Alterra.

    On the bright side, I bet the crowds at Solitude will be reduced, especially late season. Who wants to pay for a quick morning ski mid week if you have to pay to park?

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    ^ brighton. ain't. going. anywhere. son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    What I see is less cars but a count system and cops at bottom really slowing it down. Where is the gondola or something else?


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    Cops at the bottom of Canyon?? that would be a novel idea. UPD to me, "we don't have money in our budget to always check vehicles at the mouth of LCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telefreewasatch View Post
    In Europe we would've seen a spur rail line to the mouth of Little, a gongala up Little, over to Big, and on to PC.
    Exactly. I live 5 blocks from a major transit hub and the only way to get to the mountain is an overcrowded bus that I'll likely have to stand on the entire way home. I dream of a gondola to somewhere with room for a massive parking lot, but that likely will never happen. Create a base area there with restaurants and bars- I'm talking in the valley away from the mouth, and a huge parking lot. Keep the road as is for commercial traffic, employees, and maybe an annual driving pass thats like $400 or steeper. Doesn't solve the summer issues though.

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    IKON Pass for Soli gives you a free UTA bus pass. What's to stop people from parking at Brighton and using the bus for a free 5 min. shuttle both ways?
    Gravity Junkie

    How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudfoot View Post
    IKON Pass for Soli gives you a free UTA bus pass. What's to stop people from parking at Brighton and using the bus for a free 5 min. shuttle both ways?
    As far as I can tell, nothing. You don't even need to take the bus both ways, you can just ski SolBright back to your car.

    Quote Originally Posted by brutah View Post
    But hopefully more people will carpool and it will elevate some of the traffic issues.
    If this meaningfully alleviates BCC traffic this year I'll eat my shorts. Unless it was left out of the article, passholders seem to have zero incentive to carpool under the proposed plan. It's $150/yr whether you roll up solo every day or with 10 other people. They'll pay their $150 and continue their previous driving habits. Tourists will likely consider the parking fee a rounding error in the cost of their already very expensive vacation. At best this might modestly reduce the number of "casual local skier" vehicles, but that's a drop in the bucket.

    I'm not a Solitude/Ikon passholder so I'm trying to maintain a sober, detached perspective about this. Obviously something needs to be done, but I find the company line that profits aren't the motivator and they're doing this primarily to relieve congestion and help the environment to be disingenuous at best. It's a greenwashed pile of bullshit that you can smell a mile away and SOC, USFS, UDOT and the CWC seem to be eating it up. If their press release said, "Yeah, we're charging for parking now. Supply and demand, bitch. Deal with it." I would at least respect the honesty. I fully support tolls on the roads, parking fees, and other private vehicle use fees--if they are part of a comprehensive plan to improve the mass transit system in the canyons and the fees are spent on supporting that system.

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    Some Mags will come up with an angle within a week, watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ####### View Post
    they did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    If this meaningfully alleviates BCC traffic this year I'll eat my shorts. Unless it was left out of the article, passholders seem to have zero incentive to carpool under the proposed plan. It's $150/yr whether you roll up solo every day or with 10 other people. They'll pay their $150 and continue their previous driving habits. Tourists will likely consider the parking fee a rounding error in the cost of their already very expensive vacation. At best this might modestly reduce the number of "casual local skier" vehicles, but that's a drop in the bucket.

    I'm not a Solitude/Ikon passholder so I'm trying to maintain a sober, detached perspective about this. Obviously something needs to be done, but I find the company line that profits aren't the motivator and they're doing this primarily to relieve congestion and help the environment to be disingenuous at best. It's a greenwashed pile of bullshit that you can smell a mile away and SOC, USFS, UDOT and the CWC seem to be eating it up. If their press release said, "Yeah, we're charging for parking now. Supply and demand, bitch. Deal with it." I would at least respect the honesty. I fully support tolls on the roads, parking fees, and other private vehicle use fees--if they are part of a comprehensive plan to improve the mass transit system in the canyons and the fees are spent on supporting that system.
    So we should just wait another 15 years while the utah government drags their feet on the way to a comprehensive plan??? Each individual ski area can only do so much to alleviate the traffic and try to encourage carpooling. It's a financial incentive to carpool. Apart from a comprehensive plan that is the best one of the four cottonwood canyon ski resorts can do.

    It's not greenwashing, they're charging for parking in hopes that more people will carpool or take the bus. They've made a sliding scale to incentivize carpooling and mass transit to their resort, and they've chosen to donate a part of those profits to a nonprofit whose number one priority is air quality in Utah. Doesn't seem like their company line is saying anything else. They could have chosen to charge a flat rate for parking regardless of people in the vehicle and not donated a penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telefreewasatch View Post
    Dude, we gotta go touring. You break trail, I follow, and I bet we agree on which way to go.
    Lets make it happen. I already ski tour with a few alta patrollers/employees fairly frequently so we likely have some mutual friends. Looking forward to it.

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    I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree that it's not greenwashing an Alterra cash-grab. It's certainly entirely their prerogative as a private business to charge or not charge for parking. Shit, Snowbird has been charging for parking at Octoberfest for a couple years already. I'm honestly shocked they're not charging for ski parking yet.

    Personally, I don't think the pricing structure seems like it will be that effective at increasing carpooling, but we'll see. I also doubt it will increase bus use that much (with the exception of people parking at Brighton and using the bus as a free shuttle to skirt the parking fee) since the bus system is already overcapacity at peak times. But, again, we'll see. Free bus rides have always been a pass perk, but they're talking it up like it's a new thing. To me, that reeks.

    The percentage of parking revenue they're going to donate to Breathe Utah was not disclosed in the article. I doubt it's that big or they would have said so. I'd rather see them use that money to pay UTA to run more buses or run their own shuttle service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJG View Post
    Some Mags will come up with an angle within a week, watch.
    well im anglin to hookup the iceman to replace the icecondo garage key that foolishly ended up on the bottom of the green
    other than that
    I don't need a sixer to park at the vehicle shop but I bets that angle would work
    the ski down from forest glen isn't bad
    but the walk up sucks
    fuckin nordi's are gonna flip
    cheapest fucks evarz
    im probably gonna park at spruces a lot again
    cause skiing out to the car and cold beer beats hitchhiking
    and aint no sense savin a canyon spot for a soc sucker
    pre winterlands partying at the crib
    come on by or see ya there
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    Here is my review of the new TGR film after returning from the premier at Red Butte


    1. Despite the extremely woke POW ad (virtue signaling ) at the beginning of the film this movie certainly had a giant carbon footprint between the gratuitous heli shots , boats , Gas guzzling RVs and trucks featured heavily in the film. The hypocrisy and politicization of the winter sports community is not a good look.

    2. Was basically the same movie as every other TGR film over the past decade

    3. No true ďbanger ď segments except for Kais segment to close out the film


    4. The urban segment was extremely weak , there were better urban segments that were released in 2005.

    All In all 4/10 stars , nice to spend an evening at red butte watching people slide around on mountains but the stoke factor was not very high.


    Itís clear TGR has pivoted from a serious film company at the avant garde of the sport to a lifestyle and marketing company for the outdoor community , which I applaud as a business move . However , if you want to see a real ski movie I would attend the Level 1 premier in a few weeks




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    My take on all recent TGR flicks is jaded, but Sir Heady you should have sat with us.
    Our view must have been better. Agree with the meh urban, but like you say this was classic TGR.
    High octane, full throttle skiing in high consequence terrain performed by world class athletes.
    I said "wow" many times last night. More than usual for ski porn.
    I thought top shelf skiing skills were displayed by all.
    Mcnutt for the win of best male performance this year...Lentsch in the running.
    Elyse or Angel for the win of best female performance.
    They fed off each other. Maybe a shared title?
    Interesting they didn't show Elyse's season ending crash, it happened same run as Angel's.
    Kai is legit...
    Time spent skiing cannot be deducted from one's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    oh and its certainly not going to stop me from not paying to park or ski at solitude
    The Corp owns you, bro.
    You'll pay, the Corp will see to that.
    Resistance of the Corp is futile.
    Hunting kicks ass.
    Chicks dig Labs.
    I'll keep my job, my money and my guns and you can keep the change.
    From my cold dead hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirHeady View Post
    Here is my review of the new TGR film after returning from the premier at Red Butte


    1. Despite the extremely woke POW ad (virtue signaling ) at the beginning of the film this movie certainly had a giant carbon footprint between the gratuitous heli shots , boats , Gas guzzling RVs and trucks featured heavily in the film. The hypocrisy and politicization of the winter sports community is not a good look.

    2. Was basically the same movie as every other TGR film over the past decade

    3. No true “banger “ segments except for Kais segment to close out the film


    4. The urban segment was extremely weak , there were better urban segments that were released in 2005.

    All In all 4/10 stars , nice to spend an evening at red butte watching people slide around on mountains but the stoke factor was not very high.


    It’s clear TGR has pivoted from a serious film company at the avant garde of the sport to a lifestyle and marketing company for the outdoor community , which I applaud as a business move . However , if you want to see a real ski movie I would attend the Level 1 premier in a few weeks




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    Quote Originally Posted by telefreewasatch View Post
    My take on all recent TGR flicks is jaded, but Sir Heady you should have sat with us.
    Our view must have been better. Agree with the meh urban, but like you say this was classic TGR.
    High octane, full throttle skiing in high consequence terrain performed by world class athletes.
    I said "wow" many times last night. More than usual for ski porn.
    I thought top shelf skiing skills were displayed by all.
    Mcnutt for the win of best male performance this year...Lentsch in the running.
    Elyse or Angel for the win of best female performance.
    They fed off each other. Maybe a shared title?
    Interesting they didn't show Elyse's season ending crash, it happened same run as Angel's.
    Kai is legit...
    We were on our way to a wedding photo op in the Lone Peak Cirque in our rich buddies helo yesterday evening.
    When we saw the lights and felt the bass rumble from the direction Red Butte.
    When we sat the bird down on top of a sage grouse nest to take in the show...
    We realized it was sold out!
    Discussions were held with those that make things happen and we slid in the side door like the overpriviledged assholes that we are.

    Having seen every TGR flick since the beginning of time I have to agree with SirHeady ( not that I ever disagree with his astute observations)...

    SOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUCCCCCKKKKIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGGG LLLLLAAAAAAAAAMMMMMEEEEE!!!!

    The DJ sucked.
    The opening band sucked
    The giveaways were meh, I mean who wants a set of bent chets or volkl 108s? Shit Skis. Or brewing beer with the pros. Lame.
    And the crowd, don't get me started.
    This guy sitting next to me would not shut up, talking story about all those pros, giving funny anecodotes like he really knew them.
    Cmon mannnnn there is no way you know all those pros? The nerve of some people.
    Too crowded to get autographs, get change for my nickel or do a pro callout.
    I had been practicing all day "Angel I can't believe your a pro, I ski so much radder than you"
    Stoke was so low in the movie and the sold out venue its all we could talk about on the helly ride back to the Chalet du Dibbs.
    TGR has really fell off, especially since Tanner Hall died of broken ankles in that unfortunate accident at Chad's Gap.
    We should all go over to the Warren Miller Entertainment Forums and take that place over...
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    ^^^Beer that was in my mouth is in the keyboard.
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    Fun times times last night boys, thanks.
    When I hang with y'all I feel underedumacated.
    'bout lotsa things.
    Thanks for the edumacation.
    Time spent skiing cannot be deducted from one's life.

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    I did stand in line with Todd Jones waiting to pee. He had to pee too. I felt close to him. No I mean he was two spots ahead of me. He saw me looking and he was like ďI donít go for that kind of bathroom thingĒ. I was like no your cool and gave the bro nod. He was like sweet avoided that and we watched more of the movie.
    I did get to hang with cool peeps and show was good vibes and high stoke. Now the clowns one table over weíre all bro brah hiked up wolverine in my pajamas and I donít see why itís so core. But his buddy was like yah I snowboarded Everest. And he was like thatís cool I snowboarded at Alta and so on. Really they would not shut up and I thought why go to the show and then I realized they were from park city.


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    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16

    2018/2019 (24/32)

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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    I did stand in line with Todd Jones waiting to pee. He had to pee too. I felt close to him. No I mean he was two spots ahead of me. He saw me looking and he was like ďI donít go for that kind of bathroom thingĒ. I was like no your cool and gave the bro nod. He was like sweet avoided that and we watched more of the movie.
    I did get to hang with cool peeps and show was good vibes and high stoke. Now the clowns one table over weíre all bro brah hiked up wolverine in my pajamas and I donít see why itís so core. But his buddy was like yah I snowboarded Everest. And he was like thatís cool I snowboarded at Alta and so on. Really they would not shut up and I thought why go to the show and then I realized they were from park city.


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    Flat brims
    So many flat brims
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    Real review
    Mcnutt segment was insane
    Kai was hitting some big stuff and then he went to AK sweet
    The long hike was crazy
    Good flow overall and lots of action
    Would like more closeup and then POV of the gnar to see the exposure


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    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16

    2018/2019 (24/32)

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