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  1. #2126
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    Anyone know if there was a refreeze last night?

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    did not. low around 36. found some smooth and north facing skied well at 8am. was in the cirque a little too early which made for some sporty turns but an hour or so later would have been money ...

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    ^^^Looks pretty cloudy in those pics? I'm assuming that if it's clear tonight and tomorrow night we should get a window of supportable above 8000 feet, even if it doesn't get below freezing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    ^^^Looks pretty cloudy in those pics? I'm assuming that if it's clear tonight and tomorrow night we should get a window of supportable above 8000 feet, even if it doesn't get below freezing?
    That's what I'm hoping for. I think one of the avy guys said earlier in the year that temps need to get down to 38 on a clear night in the wasatch to get a good re-freeze. seems to be about up to par with what I have been experiencing lately.

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    38 looks to be about the dead, 6am minimum at 8000 feet the next couple of nights (according to the point forecasts).

    It seems like I've had a few refreeze days with higher overnight temps, but that may be with a more consolidated, summer type snowpack. If anyone gets out tomorrow am, please report.

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    Pouring buckets at 7 am this morning at Alta. Seemed like it was raining pretty high, I bailed. My buddy took a nap and then drove back up for a main chute lap. Sounds like the best skiing was found in the areas that have seen a lot of traffic.

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    Some turns off Little Superior from a couple weeks back, it was smooth.


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    I woke up to cloud cover and light showers over much of the central Wasatch, so called an audible and decided to go to Deseret Peak as it looked clear and a bit cooler. I took my oldest son so that he could set the bootpack. Snow conditions were bad. Thin refreeze above 8500 feet, not supportable on east and north faces, south and west faces were nice, firm and supportable down to at least 9500.

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    North facing twin chutes had slid and the bed surface made for a nice, cramponable surface. But wouldn't have been fun to ski.
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    So we came down the Temple Couloir and it was smoothish, but a total slush pile.
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    On another note, what's up with Wasatch skiers? We started at an empty trailhead at 545 and we were on the peak by about 9ish. Didn't see a soul, not a big surprise given the conditions. I gave my son the lecture about us being too late for it being June, that we should've started by headlamp and been skiing east facing shortly after sunrise.

    We passed 3 parties on the way down including one just starting at the trailhead at 11am! By that time the clouds were getting nice and thick for afternoon thunderstorms and there was no hope for any slush free travel. We could hear rocks starting to come down off the cliffs in the cirque as we were changing shoes and those folks were going to put themselves in the firing line?!

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    Heh, one of those later groups was probably my friends, hopefully not the 11am one. Was planning to do the twins with a buddy tuesday or wednesday but sounds like maybe not worth it based on your post? Maybe if its clearer by then it'll freeze harder.

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    The twins will need several melt freeze cycles to get smooth again. So will temple. Not likely to happen this week I wouldn’t think. Honestly, bag the peak early, ski the south face as it softens and then exit out whichever way is better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    The twins will need several melt freeze cycles to get smooth again. So will temple. Not likely to happen this week I wouldn’t think. Honestly, bag the peak early, ski the south face as it softens and then exit out whichever way is better.


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    no lack of a good refreeze last night, it was bulletproof until the sun hit it on the north side at least. wasn't sure after 4 days out of town what would be left of the south facing, though it looks like Cardiff/Toledo/Emmas/etc still go mostly to the road

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    took Sugarloaf down toward DC thinking about the couloir there but things were still very firm. saw debris from a pretty big wet slide, probably ran 1k' vertical or so

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    so went back up Baldy instead. the chutes were kinda chewed up, so skied whatever the line is skier's left of Main Chute, with the hard left exit above the cliff. I always thought this was "Dogleg" but what do I know. anything that looked smooth skied great, and by 7:45 the corn was going off where the sun had been warming it for an hour and change

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    looks like Sup still goes basically to the road as well, and Suicide is fat... gonna be up there later this week if there are any takers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    no lack of a good refreeze last night, it was bulletproof until the sun hit it on the north side at least. wasn't sure after 4 days out of town what would be left of the south facing, though it looks like Cardiff/Toledo/Emmas/etc still go mostly to the road

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    took Sugarloaf down toward DC thinking about the couloir there but things were still very firm. saw debris from a pretty big wet slide, probably ran 1k' vertical or so

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    so went back up Baldy instead. the chutes were kinda chewed up, so skied whatever the line is skier's left of Main Chute, with the hard left exit above the cliff. I always thought this was "Dogleg" but what do I know. anything that looked smooth skied great, and by 7:45 the corn was going off where the sun had been warming it for an hour and change

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    looks like Sup still goes basically to the road as well, and Suicide is fat... gonna be up there later this week if there are any takers!

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    think that might just be called "the shoulder". Fun line for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    On another note, what's up with Wasatch skiers? We started at an empty trailhead at 545 and we were on the peak by about 9ish. Didn't see a soul, not a big surprise given the conditions. I gave my son the lecture about us being too late for it being June, that we should've started by headlamp and been skiing east facing shortly after sunrise.

    We passed 3 parties on the way down including one just starting at the trailhead at 11am! By that time the clouds were getting nice and thick for afternoon thunderstorms and there was no hope for any slush free travel. We could hear rocks starting to come down off the cliffs in the cirque as we were changing shoes and those folks were going to put themselves in the firing line?!
    Way back in April Mallwalker and I started up Mineral at 6ish under a light rain to try and manage the heat forecasted for the day. We say nothing but wet slides all the way to the top of the ROD. We eventually found decent snow way the fuck up MillB but anything below 9.5 to 10k was soaked. On our way out at 11ish we passed a party of 3 casually slogging in the flats. They wanted to ski Moonbeam. We told them that all of it had slid in the flats already and they were about 2 weeks and/or 6 hours too late. They kept going because you know, wet slides just aren't a thing. That still seems like a better idea than starting up Deseret at 11am though...

    BTW: which one is Temple? The W facing skinny couloir that is lookers right of the gun barrels and drains more or less directly into the approach gullies?
    Also, I imagine the road is opened all the way to the summer TH at the boyscout campsite right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    Way back in April Mallwalker and I started up Mineral at 6ish under a light rain to try and manage the heat forecasted for the day. We say nothing but wet slides all the way to the top of the ROD. We eventually found decent snow way the fuck up MillB but anything below 9.5 to 10k was soaked. On our way out at 11ish we passed a party of 3 casually slogging in the flats. They wanted to ski Moonbeam. We told them that all of it had slid in the flats already and they were about 2 weeks and/or 6 hours too late. They kept going because you know, wet slides just aren't a thing. That still seems like a better idea than starting up Deseret at 11am though...

    BTW: which one is Temple? The W facing skinny couloir that is lookers right of the gun barrels and drains more or less directly into the approach gullies?
    Also, I imagine the road is opened all the way to the summer TH at the boyscout campsite right?
    Yeah, weird on the late risers. I've always thought of spring skiing (in the Wasatch this means anything after mid-march most years) as being a game for early birds.

    Your description of Temple sounds right except that it's east facing. And not so skinny at the moment. Yes, the road is open all the way to the Loop campground, I'd say the walk to snow was less than a mile, and mostly easy trail.

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    still plenty of good skiing, corn window is early now (7:30) on easterly stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    Your description of Temple sounds right except that it's east facing. A
    Thanks, I meant to say East but I'm directionally challenged. Did you boot up the Shotgun and follow the ridge up and over the summit to Temple? I've only been up there once and it was a low snow year, the ridge looked pretty nasty. We skied back down and booted Temple, got to watch the sun set from the top, one of my favorite outings ever. It does look a lot wider than when I skied it, the top was maybe 10' wide with some interesting climbing to get past the cornice. The backside slopes look so good! Skiing out in the dark and dealing with the frozen ATV tracks to the winter gate was sub-par though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    Thanks, I meant to say East but I'm directionally challenged. Did you boot up the Shotgun and follow the ridge up and over the summit to Temple? I've only been up there once and it was a low snow year, the ridge looked pretty nasty. We skied back down and booted Temple, got to watch the sun set from the top, one of my favorite outings ever. It does look a lot wider than when I skied it, the top was maybe 10' wide with some interesting climbing to get past the cornice. The backside slopes look so good! Skiing out in the dark and dealing with the frozen ATV tracks to the winter gate was sub-par though...
    Yeah, we booted up the twins and then skinned the ridge to the peak, and decided while up top to traverse north down the ridge to the Temple. I was expecting the ridge traverse to be a choss scramble but it's fully covered, barely any rocks showing. The top of Temple has two entrances right now, you can't see it from my photo above but there is a lookers left entrance that meets the main chute a couple hundred vertical down.

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    East Ridge of Timp conditions? Anyone looked at or been around Timp to know what the East Ridge looks like? I'm seeing wildly variable conditions out there from perfect corn to massive debris fields. That line seems unlikely to be clean, but thought I would try to save a drive down there. Of course a good refreeze, clear night and early morning will be required...and might be a bit late for it to still go clean.

    thanks in advance.

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    I was at Sundance over the weekend. East Ridge proper looked like it went clean, but the snow line is well above Stewart Falls. You're probably looking at close to 1k of heinous bushwacking on the exit. Trust me, it's bad, BT;DT. If you want to avoid Type III fun, you might want to consider upper Primrose cirque, which has some great skiing on multiple aspects with an easy exit below the snowline via the summer trail.

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    Went and skied the Twin Couloirs (well the east one) this morning. Bootpack up the chute was variable with a shitty amount of postholing, but the clouds kept the snow decent if a little scratchy.

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    Saw a few big naturals come down from the rocks and move a lot of snow from the peak as well which was kind of spooky, but between the clouds and lack of terrain above we were safe and comfy in the east couloir.

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    ^^^Nice. Had the east twin smoothed out at all?

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    Has anyone got after Ciochetti's ribbon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdude2468 View Post
    Has anyone got after Ciochetti's ribbon?
    couple snowboarders maybe a week ago hit it I believe. Saw it on the insta...looked SPICY around that jutting rock, they went around with boards ON....looked SKETCH as fuck.
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