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  1. #751
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    Oft, bummed about the cut off. I felt like Thing 2 was almost there at each stop this year. His line choice was great and it is very evident he is a strong skier. Bummed to see him miss the cut.

    Is he skiing on the 192 or 188 Rustler 11s?


    Curious as to Eder's choice to not take a easy cruiser lap with a few standard 3s and slide into a top 6 spot. Though it makes for better entertainment to not have the winner decided going into Verbier, seems like a risky strategy to pull bigger tricks on that un-stompy snow. Who knows, maybe big flat 3's are standard for him?

    Also, I'm no judge, but audibly exclaimed "smooth" on Pollard's first 3 off the top. He didn't even blink on that landing.
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    Scoring Slemmet over Turdell was incomprehensible. Still love watching Turdell ski, and was impressed by Navarro’s aggression and legs of steel. Tanner skied like he didn’t belong. Weird childish tantrum from Liam Pfieffer.

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    I'm no tantrum fan, but walk a mile in the shoes of these young guys that have spent their entire youths chasing this dream. You realize 3 guys from region 1 get to the FWT a year? Any idea how hard that is to achieve?

    Many of the older guys got there in a different way and if they fall off often get reinstated. Many - especially Euros - get paid year 'round by big sponsors and actually make a living. Not so much for the other, especially young, NA guys. They acquired points as juniors so they could get in to 4* FWQ's, busted ass competing and traveling, worked in some shitty job all summer, slept in their cars, scrimped and saved, begged borrowed and stole to travel and buy airfares, put their educations on hold to chase the dream.

    I hate to see that and he probably should have handled it better, but I get how he could have been that upset.



    Quote Originally Posted by kootenayskier View Post
    Scoring Slemmet over Turdell was incomprehensible. Still love watching Turdell ski, and was impressed by Navarro’s aggression and legs of steel. Tanner skied like he didn’t belong. Weird childish tantrum from Liam Pfieffer.
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    If I lived in WA, Oft would be my realtor. Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeywrenchMoose View Post
    Curious as to Eder's choice to not take a easy cruiser lap with a few standard 3s and slide into a top 6 spot. Though it makes for better entertainment to not have the winner decided going into Verbier, seems like a risky strategy to pull bigger tricks on that un-stompy snow. Who knows, maybe big flat 3's are standard for him?
    Eder has been filming for several years with MSP and is all set, he doesn't really give a shit about being strategic to win the overall. He doesn't need it. He's just out there ripping and having fun, which I really appreciate.

    Oftpiste - bummer about Berkeley just missing the cut - hope he gets a wildcard to Verbier. While he could obviously ski circles around me, having watched him the last two years I'm thinking he could benefit from a ski with some slightly stiffer tails that will keep him forward just a touch more on the landings. He's a few mild backslaps away from being right in the mix this season. Literally a matter of inches, because they weren't hard slaps or anything. And we know with Hugo at the judging table that will kill your scores.

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    Yeah, I've encouraged him working with Bliz to get a very specific comp ski with a super stiff tail. He seems to believe he doesn't have the juice to make such a request. I suspect they'd listen, but....I've also encouraged notching up from 188 but he feels like the 188 is easier to spin.

    Yeah, you're right. Too many of those this year and he wouldn't argue. At the risk of getting firehoused with accusations, I feel like some backslaps are more forgiven than others depending on who does them, even if they're similar in quality. Which is pretty frustrating.
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    I find it interesting that the girl winning every FWQ event in Japan is on the Volkl M5. She has the entire 2020 quiver, but has chosen the M5 for every event from pow to corn. I've been chatting a bit with her on facebook and she's like-- "Yeah, this is my comp ski. It's my everything ski."

    I don't know if that says more about the field, the skier, or the ski, but it is cool to see someone click with their gear. It must be rad when your pow ski, corn ski, and comp ski are all the same thing.

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    Oft, vibes to Berk, loved watching him and hope he comes back. Also want to thank you for taking the time to explain everything.

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    Oft, thanks for the reply. That’s what I was getting at with the question about the 188 vs 192. Might be just a bit stiffer tails. Hard to offer advice to these guys when I’m nowhere near their level. But I was curious.
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    That's a huge bummer about #2. Fingers crossed that good luck aligns and he gets a spot in Verbier.

    And yeah, from my short time on the rustler 11, it didn't strike me as a go straight and huck huge kind of ski. I've been super impressed at what those guys are doing on that ski knowing that they're on the stock version. It really highlights the fact that I suck, and it means I can't blame my ineptitude on the ski. Which is unfortunate - I love blaming the equipment.

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    Watched the Andorra event last night. The judging was wack, women’s scores perhaps even more confusing than men’s. The venue was too small. If they needed another day to prep a bigger venue, they should have.

    I personally have not enjoyed the fwt nearly as much this year as years past. I feel like some of the other previous venues like Chamonix were more interesting and that athletes used to be rewarded for bigger risk taking and fall line skiing with maybe a trick thrown in.

    Now the rewards seem to come from noodling around the low angle zones and traversing cross venue to link every little roller together with a small trick.

    I think it would be cool (perhaps logistically impossible) to have each location event be 2 days of skiing to give the athletes a chance to get more consistent score. Perhaps even 1 day could be purposefully on a BC freestyle type venue and the second a big mountain style venue and have the judging standards according to the venue type.

    I think if they’d do that, there would be far more interesting things happening on both the freestyle and freeride fronts. Perhaps even on freestyle event have some more manicured takeoffs like redbull line catcher, so athletes could go for bigger tricks more safely and easily.

    Then take the 2 scores from each venue event and average them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post

    I personally have not enjoyed the fwt nearly as much this year as years past. I feel like some of the other previous venues like Chamonix were more interesting and that athletes used to be rewarded for bigger risk taking and fall line skiing with maybe a trick thrown in.
    Agreed. As much as anything, I think I've come to the conclusion that the whole series should be in Europe.

    The Japan stop sucks. The kicking horse stop is lame. Yes, good terrain exists in those areas, but for various reasons, the comp doesn't get held on that terrain.

    Even the Andorra stop with its shitty snow and, by Europe standards, mediocre terrain, was still better than Japan and kicking horse.

    I get that it's the "world tour," but I just want to watch good skiing on good terrain. And the Europe venues are better for that.

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    Anyone know what's wrong with Reine? Jackie Paaso's instagram makes it seem like he's got some sort of illness or injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kootenayskier View Post
    Scoring Slemmet over Turdell was incomprehensible. Still love watching Turdell ski, and was impressed by Navarro’s aggression and legs of steel. Tanner skied like he didn’t belong. Weird childish tantrum from Liam Pfieffer.
    Floating transition 360s can be interesting if they are HUGE and slowly rotated (or better yet over a gap), but Slemmet's were all off of smallish features and not all that clean looking. He stomped the tricky bush landing, but that was the only exciting thing he did.

    Turdell had a bigger and better 3, a sweet straight line to start in exposure, a backflip, and the best straight air of the comp with that early take off over the bottom rocks. His turns were much more dialed too. Did the judges underscore him because he went around the back to start where it was a little harder to see him when he transitioned over with the backflip and 3? That seems ridiculous.

    Andrew Pollard charged, threw a 3 off of a real feature, and hit the same bush drop as Slemmet, but scored 9 points lower? Really, two throw-away small 3s over rollers and across the fall line is worth that many points?

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    Sorry to hear P. We're all proud of the dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Shirk View Post
    Sorry to hear P. We're all proud of the dude.
    Some guys currently on the list for Verbier won’t probably show up there for different reasons, i.e. injuries, filming projects or whatever. It’s happening every year. The chances for Berkeley to start on the Bec are still pretty high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Watched the Andorra event last night. The judging was wack, women’s scores perhaps even more confusing than men’s. The venue was too small. If they needed another day to prep a bigger venue, they should have.

    I personally have not enjoyed the fwt nearly as much this year as years past. I feel like some of the other previous venues like Chamonix were more interesting and that athletes used to be rewarded for bigger risk taking and fall line skiing with maybe a trick thrown in.

    Now the rewards seem to come from noodling around the low angle zones and traversing cross venue to link every little roller together with a small trick.

    I think it would be cool (perhaps logistically impossible) to have each location event be 2 days of skiing to give the athletes a chance to get more consistent score. Perhaps even 1 day could be purposefully on a BC freestyle type venue and the second a big mountain style venue and have the judging standards according to the venue type.

    I think if they’d do that, there would be far more interesting things happening on both the freestyle and freeride fronts. Perhaps even on freestyle event have some more manicured takeoffs like redbull line catcher, so athletes could go for bigger tricks more safely and easily.

    Then take the 2 scores from each venue event and average them.


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    Man, a series of Line Catcher events would be awesome.

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    Top three for me would have been Turdell, Pollard, and Navarro. I don't understand Slemmet's score at all.

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    Slemmet winning that over Turdell is the worst judging of the year by far.
    Turdell was the obvious winner by a long shot at that event. Not even a close 2nd. Mind blowing to me.
    I'll say it again, and I'll keep saying it, even though I know its a business and they'll never do it...live broadcast should be unofficial results. Video review for official results later that day/evening.
    One or two spots has always mattered for the guys on the bubble and makes a huge difference in their career, and sometimes it even matters for the winner, which is absurd. Could cost Turdell the overall title.
    I'd really like the judges to explain their rationale on those two scores, don't think they can do it.
    Fun watch as always. Berkeley, best of luck to him. He is insanely talented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Top three for me would have been Turdell, Pollard, and Navarro. I don't understand Slemmet's score at all.
    ^^^THIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roQer View Post
    Some guys currently on the list for Verbier won’t probably show up there for different reasons, i.e. injuries, filming projects or whatever. It’s happening every year. The chances for Berkeley to start on the Bec are still pretty high.
    especially if they know he's there chomping at the bit
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    Freeride World Tour - 2019

    I would also lean towards Turdell. Sorry Thing 2 didn’t make the cut, but I still think there’s hope to see him in Verbier? +1 to getting him on skis with stiffer tails, though staying forward more and taking knees to chest would have helped? - hard to remember that when you mostly land in deeper snow (at least in my experience). That last cliff is wierd though with a pop to massive drop.

    The ski women ripped during this comp. Super exciting and what a show they put on. So happy to see this, especially given today. Definitely up there with the boys.

    Venue reminded me of the old freeskiing world tour. Especially Kirkwood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Top three for me would have been Turdell, Pollard, and Navarro. I don't understand Slemmet's score at all.
    agreed
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    Only saw the the FWT highlights clip but the Turdell run looked special. Credit to Leo coming back from injury and getting the win. Should make for a great finish in Verbier. My money’s on Turdell, Eder and Leo for the podium. Go the Euros! https://www.instagram.com/p/BuwYy5UI...d=e014i3dkufqd

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    Lol- who is the head judge? Rasta guy doesn’t seem to have the creditials. Judging by the interviews. but really if he is in charge and is the person that ultimately decides the line score his resume sucks, his vision is influenced by tricks, he doesnt see the whole venue and his judgment questions the whole tour!!!!

    They have lost all credible judges over the last few years.....

    Hugo- quit....


    FYI- the skiing at Andorra simulated a junior qualifer comp. Sad...Only because there was no more the pros could do on the same terrain better. I would have loved to see the final result for jr's against pros on the same venue to prove how lame it was for the Pros.....


    Oh yeah- take my argument with a grain of salt- ive had a few bevy's and I know how you maggots get!!
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    FWT has peaked and is now in a decline. Great riders are underscored and butter 360s off five foot airs are the new hot shit. Maybe someday freeride will be rowdy aggro sending again.

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