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Thread: Freeride World Tour - 2019
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03-31-2019, 08:46 PM #1076ski paintingshttp://michael-cuozzo.fineartamerica.com" horror has a face; you must make a friend of horror...horror and moral terror.. are your friends...if not, they are enemies to be feared...the horror"....col Kurtz
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03-31-2019, 08:50 PM #1077
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03-31-2019, 09:39 PM #1078
Freeride World Tour - 2019
Funny thing is, no one was bashing snowboarding at all, just discussing actual limitations vs talent discrepancies.
I kinda wonder what Travis Rice could do on a pair of fat skis if you gave him a few years. This is awesome / ridiculous: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvmJl7zg...d=yufjv14jkbbt
I’m a skier thru-and-thru but Rice and Jones are still two of my favorite snow riders.I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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03-31-2019, 09:53 PM #1079
"Mcfly and williman are a great combo"
Agree! Nothing better then when they collectively lose their minds and start dropping F-bombs. Preferred that combo over Williman and the Canadian... Just saying. Smoothy was also awesome in the booth. Mcfly always brings it in terms of commentating. I miss his face checks where he would ski the line the day before!
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04-01-2019, 02:32 AM #1080Registered User
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04-01-2019, 08:03 AM #1082Registered User
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I don't think there was any snowboard bashing. I was the one who brought up the question - it was meant to be a discussion and not a debate or argument. I thought people generally kept it pretty calm, nobody bashing either sport, just talking about actual limitations and my point or one of the questions I had was, is there a discrepancy in talent on FWT between skiers and snowboarders. Personally, I think so, at least a bit with more big-time skiers than riders. Overall, it was a great discussion I thought.
I asked and brought it up because I am a snowboarder and you could see throughout the tour the difference between the majority of the runs skiers were taking vs. snowboarders.
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04-01-2019, 09:13 AM #1083
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04-01-2019, 10:33 AM #1084
I agree with some of this, and with some of the other sentiments. I think skiing is better for ripping big lines fast and dropping big cliffs. I also think skiers have an advantage in McConkey style ledge-to-ledge billygoating. I think these advantages are even greater when there are firm conditions, as there often are on the FWT.
Having said that, I think snowboarding had a strong advantage in technical spine walls. The ability to powerslide sections was very important. In the early 2000's it seemed to me that skiers were not hitting spiny terrain as well as the snowboarders were, or maybe that was just Jones and Olafsson. Since the advent of rockered skis skiers have gained the ability to powerslide where it is appropriate, and have caught up in spiny terrain, although I don't think anyone is quite at the level of Jeremy Jones on a spine wall. But in other big mountain terrain I think skiers have an advantage.
I ski Mammoth, and I still see lots of boarders out there. But in the areas where I spend my days, Climax, Hangman's, Paranoids, Philippe's, Avy chutes, it is mostly skiers despite the fact that Mammoth is mostly a socal mountain. But there are still plenty of boarders in the steeps at Mammoth, the boarders are not just in the park.
I will say that a number of my friends have gone back to skiing from snowboarding. I look back to the mid-90's when I was in college. I went to UCSB and was skiing Mammoth a couple of weekends a month and on vacations. We had a club ski team at UCSB, which just meant that you paid $300 at the beginning of the year and had a place to crash at in Mammoth all winter. I usually did not race because I hated waiting to run gates when I could be skiing the noids. Around 96 they opened the team up to snowboarders. Around that time in socal everyone was boarding, particularly people who surfed. I learned to really enjoy powder in 1994, I was an east coast bump skier and struggled in pow when I first went out west. I watched how much the boarders loved pow, and I thought about switching. But the problem I had with boarding was that it did not seem fun in bumps and firm steeps, and that was what I was skiing the majority of the time. Once I learned to love pow in skinny skis I had no interest in snowboarding. Then in the late 90's we got fat skis, and everything changed. I think lots of people who switched to enjoy pow are now switching back, because they have discovered that they can not only ski pow on fat skis, but also enjoy firm steeps on skis in ways they would not on a snowboard. That is the reason most of my friends who have switched back have given me, they can now enjoy pow on skis AND get the benefits of skiing when the snow is bad. I think previously the advantage of snowboarding was powder performance and park hits, but the powder performance advantage is basically gone now, so if you want to spend your days in steep terrain skiing is often a better option.
But Mammoth still has plenty of boarders who throw down in big terrain. On Friday I saw a boarder hit Serbe's and launch a huge cliff beneath it at full speed. I wish I had footage of it, it was nuts.
I will add that JJ, the De La Rue brothers and TRice are three of my favorite snow riders."Have you ever seen a monk get wildly fucked by a bunch of teenage girls?" "No" "Then forget the monastery."
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04-01-2019, 01:46 PM #1085
Rehashing the Tanner topic a bit... put me in the cop-out camp. It looks like he's filming booters and mini golf lines around Tahoe which he has done for so many years now? His film last year has racked up 93k views on Vimeo -- decent numbers but not earth shattering. His sponsors are down to Armada, Ruroc and Goonwear now so can't imagine he's making much sponsor cash for filming web edits at this point.
If that's what he has fun doing then great but using filming as an excuse not to compete on the Bec is weak when it's not a major film production commitment.
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04-01-2019, 03:57 PM #1086Registered User
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Might have been this guy? https://www.instagram.com/p/BvnTkFRAC3R/
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04-01-2019, 08:49 PM #1087
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04-02-2019, 02:47 AM #1088
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04-02-2019, 09:46 AM #1089
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04-02-2019, 09:15 PM #1090Registered User
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Y'all need to smoke more, or work on your reading comprehension!
Ski Boss hate in this thread is funny!
An offpist dad is MAD that stoner homeboy donated his name to a niche comp, then didn't compete on death face for 7th place!
That said thanks for the insight, that was very cool following along all winter.
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04-02-2019, 10:01 PM #1091
Anybody care to link the ski boss line from the comp?
I still remember the first time i saw tb5. Definitely reset the bar for me and friends. A good friend has been using that one olofsson seen in his college math classes for almost 20 yrs.
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04-03-2019, 12:58 AM #1092
Woops.
I think this is appropriate here. Richard Permin and Victor De La Rue in Sweet and Sour. Some sick footage here.
https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/fi...W11/sweet-sour"Have you ever seen a monk get wildly fucked by a bunch of teenage girls?" "No" "Then forget the monastery."
"You ever hear of a little show called branded? Arthur Digby Sellers wrote 156 episodes. Not exactly a lightweight." Walter Sobcheck.
"I didn't have a grandfather on the board of some fancy college. Key word being was. Did he touch the Filipino exchange student? Did he not touch the Filipino exchange student? I don't know Brooke, I wasn't there."
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04-03-2019, 07:45 AM #1093
Did Permin ever compete on either tour? I can't seem to recall. His mix of freestyle and big mountain charging would be a great fit.
Always liked this MSP segment...
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04-03-2019, 09:41 AM #1094
I know he did, but that might have been as a wildcard. I actually tried to find his results from back around 2010, but the rankings from back then are not available on the FWT site. I remember when I first saw Permin, he was KILLING it in the Tulsequah segment in The Way I See It, dropping huge cliffs cleanly. Then I saw him ski the park and I could not believe it was the same guy. I looked into him and discovered he had competed on the FWT. I really wish I could find his results, or a footage of some of his lines. Unfortunately the FWT site does not have the info from back then. I do know he competed in some events in 2010, and I think in 2011 as well.
"Have you ever seen a monk get wildly fucked by a bunch of teenage girls?" "No" "Then forget the monastery."
"You ever hear of a little show called branded? Arthur Digby Sellers wrote 156 episodes. Not exactly a lightweight." Walter Sobcheck.
"I didn't have a grandfather on the board of some fancy college. Key word being was. Did he touch the Filipino exchange student? Did he not touch the Filipino exchange student? I don't know Brooke, I wasn't there."
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04-03-2019, 10:40 AM #1095www.dpsskis.com
www.point6.com
formerly an ambassador for a few others, but the ski industry is... interesting.
Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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04-03-2019, 10:47 AM #1096
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04-03-2019, 11:03 AM #1097
Permin's skiing: not real. So good. But funny enough, I remember seeing a Permin FWT vid. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_sE8GpSNvw
Tentative, slow, lost, and capped off by a total ragdoll. Can you imagine the vitriol that would have ensued if T-Hall skied any of his lines like that??sproing!
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04-03-2019, 11:34 AM #1098
That was a pretty burley entrance...
www.dpsskis.com
www.point6.com
formerly an ambassador for a few others, but the ski industry is... interesting.
Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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04-03-2019, 12:04 PM #1099
Freeride World Tour - 2019
In Permin’s defense that was 2010 and he improved his big mountain game substantially in the years after that. Note Abma and Cody’s comments in that other video.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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04-03-2019, 12:18 PM #1100
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