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  1. #1051
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    finally got around to watching the entire event last night. curious and a little disappointed why no other athletes went from the top other than klassen? he says in the interview following his run that he was nervous and "really wanted to go from the top, it didn't feel right to not go from the top". that top cliff he hit was so gnarly and he stomped it. i felt he deserved a better score for the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERIOR View Post
    I thought it was primarily weather and low snow that got the tour stops nixed in NA.
    My (probably incorrect) understanding is that, at least for USA stops, it has more to do with how FWT likes to run their events than anything else - ie, keeping venues closed for a month+ before the event so that the snow is pristine for the competition.

    The ski areas aren't interested in keeping their marquis terrain closed to the public for a good chunk of the season.
    USFS permits are challenging to get, comps can't be run in wilderness areas (where lots of the good terrain is), and the logistics of closing a part of the backcountry are challenging at best.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    All ye punterz! Leave thine stupid heavy skis in the past, or at least in the resort category, for the age of lightweight pussy sticks is upon us! Behold! Keep up with the randocommandos on their carbon blades of shortness! Break thine tibias into spiral splinters with pintech extravagance!

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    ^^ Which is why Kirkwood makes a lot of sense since the Cirque is closed anyway. Same deal at Snowbird? Silverado at Squaw is a pretty decent venue (putting aside Tram face as too sketchy) when there's coverage in years like this one but the locals wouldn't be happy to have it closed off, that's for sure.

    But these are all WAY smaller than something like the Bec. That face is just perfect for freeride events.

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    They are scoping new terrain in behind Kicking Horse that will blow Ozone away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    ^^ Which is why Kirkwood makes a lot of sense since the Cirque is closed anyway. Same deal at Snowbird? Silverado at Squaw is a pretty decent venue (putting aside Tram face as too sketchy) when there's coverage in years like this one but the locals wouldn't be happy to have it closed off, that's for sure.

    But these are all WAY smaller than something like the Bec. That face is just perfect for freeride events.
    I didn't realize the Cirque at Kirkwood was permanently closed, actually.

    I'm also not a Snowbird expert but the venues that I've seen used there (North Baldy, Silver Fox) are open to the public.

    Big Hourglass at Crested Butte is another comp venue that's closed to the public but getting enough snow to put people through it is very unreliable. It'll never happen, I think it would be really interesting actually to see FWT athletes compete on smaller, extremely technical venues like CB. A lot of the guys would have to change their usual styles completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    All ye punterz! Leave thine stupid heavy skis in the past, or at least in the resort category, for the age of lightweight pussy sticks is upon us! Behold! Keep up with the randocommandos on their carbon blades of shortness! Break thine tibias into spiral splinters with pintech extravagance!

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    I want to give a big shout out to what a great person Markus Erder is. My kid was too lazy to get up and take the early lifts up to the event. When I finally saw him at the end of the day, I gave him a lot of crap for bailing on the event.
    "You should of seen Erder's run! You suck for not getting up." (the boy is a huge fan)
    "I saw it on my phone Dad... and he took some park laps with us in the afternoon..."

    so, after the event, Erder was in the park and hanging out with all the kids. Really cool of the overall tour champ to do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenBC View Post
    They are scoping new terrain in behind Kicking Horse that will blow Ozone away.
    Interesting. The backside of Stairway to Heaven? Or across the valley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenBC View Post
    They are scoping new terrain in behind Kicking Horse that will blow Ozone away.
    Rudy's? That would be a sick venue!

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    Watching Bimboes’ run makes me want to continue not watching these events live. Incredibly badass but I don’t think skiing like that over and over would end well. If he is retiring from the fwt good for him. Absolutely mental run though.

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    Line check with Gorak and Bimboes. Scary how something so small like the angle can make the difference



    That is some scary shit there

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    Great breakdown and I appreciate Bimboes' honesty... and damn, credit where it's due, Gorak's huge backflip was just so clean. Pretty awesome for his first ever run down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McDee View Post
    Line check with Gorak and Bimboes. Scary how something so small like the angle can make the difference



    That is some scary shit there
    This is so sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Great breakdown and I appreciate Bimboes' honesty... and damn, credit where it's due, Gorak's huge backflip was just so clean. Pretty awesome for his first ever run down.
    Both of his landings are insanely clean considering speed, angle, and snow quality, but the way he lands that backflip is just over the top, the perfect definition of stomped. I wobble more after a 2' drop going 10 mph...

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    Turdell's POV: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bve57ggniQ7/

    He might be my favorite skier right now. Just makes it all look so easy when it's not. Reminds me of a modern Doug Coombs in that regard.

    "If you listen closely you can hear my tails scratching the rocks" - referring to the Hollywood cliff, and yet he stomps it super clean regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Turdell's POV: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bve57ggniQ7/

    He might be my favorite skier right now.
    I thought your favourite big mountain skier was Sammy Carlson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamdirt View Post
    I thought your favourite big mountain skier was Sammy Carlson?
    Haha... that was funny. But I think we’d all rather see what he can do than Tanner. I give that guy points for being part of the Nimbus crew with Pep, EP and Chris B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaBr View Post
    I keep thinking about the levels of skiers vs. riders and wondering if it has to do with the competition or level of skiers/riders or just that the skiers are able to do more/do it better.

    However, Victor De Le Rue is on the tour for men's snowboarding and he's a bigger name and rider.
    Travis Rice came in and threw down a line I would say was on par with the top skiing lines, but none of the other riders really rose to that level.

    It appears that when the snow gets inconsistent and difficult, for lack of better terms- Riding one Edge is a Handicap ,compared to Riding 2 Edges

    the Athletes are in similar physical conditioning

    their Knowledge of the terrain is similar based on experience ,and on par w skiers at same experience lvl

    +Any Riders do Both???and can chime in???
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    Quote Originally Posted by baron View Post
    It appears that when the snow gets inconsistent and difficult, for lack of better terms- Riding one Edge is a Handicap ,compared to Riding 2 Edges

    the Athletes are in similar physical conditioning

    their Knowledge of the terrain is similar based on experience ,and on par w skiers at same experience lvl

    +Any Riders do Both???and can chime in???
    That seems like a reasonable theory. Japan was pretty close since it was clean pow... since then not so much. Luebke and Le Rue are clearly on another level amongst the boarders and I doubt their talent is less than all of the skiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baron View Post
    It appears that when the snow gets inconsistent and difficult, for lack of better terms- Riding one Edge is a Handicap ,compared to Riding 2 Edges

    the Athletes are in similar physical conditioning

    their Knowledge of the terrain is similar based on experience ,and on par w skiers at same experience lvl

    +Any Riders do Both???and can chime in???
    I would definitely agree with that assessment and that's what I see around here as well, not that many powder days and the 2 edges of skis tend to have an advantage it would seem.

    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    That seems like a reasonable theory. Japan was pretty close since it was clean pow... since then not so much. Luebke and Le Rue are clearly on another level amongst the boarders and I doubt their talent is less than all of the skiers.
    I guess Eder and VDLR took some of the same/similar lines as Eder went more freestyle in many of his runs it seemed.
    However, none of the boarders really hit any of the larger features/terrain or went as big as the skiers did. I can't help but think of Kicking Horse with the skiers going huge in a completely different zone and the skiers doing bigger cliffs in Verbier. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say any of these guys are subpar or anything. I guess there's skiers and boarders people would want on the tour if possible so it's tough to nitpick or complain about talent level or star power on either side. It really would have been cool to see Travis Rice do the whole tour. Perhaps I should go back and watch some of Xavier's runs.

    Klassen's run from the top this last event was awesome and I think he should have been scored higher, but I don't think he cared about his score to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERIOR View Post
    What North American venues would you all like to see?

    I loved Alaska, but obviously the weather and travel was too much for most athletes to deal with.

    I thought it was primarily weather and low snow that got the tour stops nixed in NA.

    1. The Mackenzie Face at Revvy
    2. Snowbird
    3. Kirkwood
    4. Moonlight/Headwaters

    How do they compare size wise with the euro stops?

    Also, I believe Hakuba has bigger terrain, but maybe Gaijin could weigh in on that?
    I've posted it before, but this is the originally proposed venue for Hakuba '17.
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    Hakuba's problem is timing. Japan gets a January stop, which is basically Japan's blizzard month. In '17 one of the guides doing recon pre-event was hospitalized from a slide that hit him from above. He was in a coma when I was there and I don't know how he came out. (Can anyone update? I'll ask a friend soon...)

    Even on a low snow year, January is avi season out there. I guess it is anywhere. But it's not just securing the safety of the venue, it's securing the safety of all those faces that drop into the same exit as the venue. Nobody wants to hang out in that valley after their line. Give us a March, or even an April stop and things would be different.

    That said, the FWQ/J Japan organizer had 8 events this winter. He has been solving logistics like a mad man so I would expect there are other venues that will come into play in the future.

    Hakuba has big terrain. It's just riddled with non-venue related dangers. In 2004 I posted a pic of the exact same venue in the photo above either on TGR or SnowJapan forums and nonchalantly proposed an event out here. People in the industry called it then-- "Way too dangerous out there, dude." Which is why I attended the '17 Hakuba debut. It was literally the exact same venue I had been dreaming of for 13 years. But then the venue changed due to avi hazard. A meter of snow fell the day prior.

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    Freeride World Tour - 2019

    That Hakuba face looks pretty sweet for sure...those are some big hits in the middle.

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    That Hakuba face is in a massive terrain trap.

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    The performance check feature with Bimboes and Gorak is so good. Beyond entertaining. This and everything else about this years Verbier is so, so good. It's awesomeness is festering in may mind and only getting awesomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamdirt View Post
    That Hakuba face is in a massive terrain trap.
    Don’t worry, they’ll just call it slough or a small release. ;-)

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    It’s always just slough!

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