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  1. #1101
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    Next year, I would love to go back to La Grave for a week after a week in Rueras with Michele. Michele said he would join us in La Grave.

    It's an 8 hour train ride for around $80 from Rueras to Oulx, Italy with an hour and a half taxi ($50 each) to La Grave from Oulx via Taxi de La Meije.

    It's easy to stop in both Oulx/Sestrieres/San Sicario/Claviere/Montgenevre, the "Milky Way", or Serre Chevalier on the way for a day.

    Or train to Grenoble and rent cars there ? Sometimes wind events shut down La Grave and mobility in France is much less accessible than in Switzerland.

    Or maybe just rent a van in Disentis, drive through Italy, hit Alagna if it's good, then drive over to La Grave.
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    Hell yes!!! I’m dead serious about hitting the road with you guys! Got my boots figured out now and slowly getting back in shape!


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  3. #1103
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    La Grave piques my interest...

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    Paging Northwest Slider. Please send me a PM when you get a chance.

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    Back to regular scheduled programming... the good, bad, ugly whistle.

    Cheers to BBI, Vendul , Buster (the boss), and the rest of the tgr rollers. Enjoyed skiing with other skiers on the fly, learning from others, and observing the professional guides handle business on the tour (cool dudes). Vendul and his girlfriend offer awesome hospitality, his place is super cool, as is the area. Watching Tri-Ungulate getting after it on telemarking skis makes me want learn telemarking, although I am seriously sick of dealing / trying ski gear.

    Reflecting, still am surprised how “big” the Alps are – great lines with consistent pitches for insane vertical and readily accessible – seemingly everywhere. That place basically removed my desire to get good enough to ski Alaska and make a dedicated ski trip. The Alps provide a great perspective with respect to North American mountains and resorts, the Alps are ‘bigger’. The Alps are big enough and good enough to get your fix, plus if the snow sucks, go chill out and about in Europe or just sniff out a cool ski tour. It is a ‘win-win’. Best US vs Alps ski comparison I can think of is the south face of Mt. Superior across from Snowbird. That run, but lots of them. Note, Mt Superior is on my hit list. So is Japan mostly due to never having been to an Asian country.

    Switzerland is an awesome country and with great hospitality throughout. Everybody seemed happy from the quaint villages to the perfect size city Zurich. Great vibes, super laidback, and chill with fun loving and outdoorsy people (got to love when a large portion of the population skis, young to old). If ‘business as usual’ continues I will be back with family and friends. I used predominately cash throughout and had to whip out an ID or credit card in only a few instances. Tip: bring a coin bag.

  6. #1106
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    See if this posts right...

    Here is some intel on Engelberg for an Alps rookie from an Alps rookie. This mountain is well designed, on a north face with awesome natural features and a great pitch. Note, Andermatt and Disentis looked just as good but did not get to experience in prime conditions. Got a good scout in for the Andermatt though with some of the tgr skiers (Cheers CDS, Ripz, and Abe).

    Engelberg powder day (off piste only): Lift access is great, but one is taxying multiple lifts to get back to the drops. Word was 9K to 10K lift tickets were sold the prior Saturday. Not sure that situation would be worthwhile. The mountain was reportedly pretty iced up, low vis, and crappy. The place definitely holds fresh snow and lines a couple of days after a decent storm, by 3rd day a skin trek may be wise.

    Arrived on a Sunday late afternoon and the town was dead / closed. It rained hard in town that night for a good while. Monday reported ~15-20 cm overnight, but experienced significant overages depending on location (knee / thigh high). Wrecked hard twice (maybe 3?) losing a ski each time, snow was very deep. Visibility was in-out all day. Off piste, low vis, in the Alps can be nerve wracking and requires extra / extreme caution (think serious touring). Skied with a Zurich local and this got skied from opening til about 3 PM (green lines). By the last run, I was not able to keep up as my leg strength was gone and felt thankful I had fresh legs for the start of that day. Can’t ever recall sweating so much just on downhill descents with near zero hiking every freaking run from first run to the last. Breaks were reserved for the lift up only which I focused on replenishing electrolytes. Cheers to Michael and I hope someone or myself pays it forward.

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    Jochstock: Start day top of Jochstock. This allows one to assess the mountain and conditions as you can “see”. Titlis was closed til about 12ish. There are cams that you can monitor the conditions up high. Top of Jochstock, dip under rope off piste (skier’s left off lift). Two main routes 1) Skier’s left under the rope. This allows one to bypass the bottom hopper lift with traverse near bottom of run. 2) Angle skier’s right traversing. 3 lifts back to Jochstock. Banged Jochstock (~4-5 runs) until we observed two skier tracks coming from Titlis.

    Titlis: Game on = 1200 meter vert (3900 ft). Essentially dip under the rope a hundred or so meters from the Titlis station. One can work skiers left or ski the middle. There are some large glaciers that are super cool that you ski by. One awesome line is to drop in closest to the cliff and parallel close to the cliffs down. There is a narrow-steep portion where you ski between the cliff and glacier. It is worth stopping and “looking” around you.

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    The Laub (1000 meter vert): One can see the Laub on the way up in the gondola. This was my last run, but it would be my first if I ever get another crack at this mountain and similar conditions. It is a super wide run (e.g. ~500-600 meter) with a great vert and pitch. At the end to the lodge (maybe the Ritz in the map), wait for a small shuttle bus for 2 Franc taxi to a trail where you can ski down to the base and get back onto the gondola or chill til the next episode.

    T-bars: Supposed to be some great stuff on Titlis off the t-bars. Did not get to experience.

    Next day the off piste snow held up great and the day was clear. After 3-4 off piste runs backtracking some of the runs of the prior day except with good visibility, my legs were again smoked. I then essentially bombed the piste thereafter and checked out the lodges until I wrecked hard losing both skis. Losing two skis, on piste, on high DIN settings is a clue to get off the mountain. Hence, to future rollers, be in shape before going to the Alps. It sucks to not be able to get after it when it is “on”. Although getting in “off piste Alps ski shape” may only be possible for people who live and often ski next to some legit mountains.

    Avy: The Laub slid near the gully either natural or was shot. This was evident in the morning ride up. Other older slides were evident throughout. Experienced some significant sluffing in a couple of places down from Titlis (e.g. 12-18” deep, 20-30 ft wide, that ran for short bits on the small steep sections). This made me unsure but did not bother any locals. They explained Engelberg gets skied hard which aids the stability. Nonetheless, off piste in the Alps is no joke, self-evident.

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  7. #1107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beder View Post
    My head is spinning thinking of skiing over there.
    Can someone talk about train travel with ski bags? Seems like it would be a giant pain standing there on the platform, or do you check your bag when you get your ticket? Thanks.
    In my experience it was not difficult. Certainly a lot easier than dealing with renting a car in a foreign country and navigating. Most of the trains were uncrowded and had loads of storage room. The exception to that were the trains in and out of Zurich itself, which tended to be doubledecker style commuter trains with less storage and maybe steps to navigate in the train if level 1 was crowded. Tips for that: 1) you will probably be on one between the Zurich airport and Zurich main train station--if so, it's a short trip with just a few stops, so don't even bother storing and sitting. The little compartment where you come in has enough room to stand your skis in the corner and a couple of folks with other bags to stand without obstructing entrance/exit. 2) for what is likely a longer leg departing from or going to Zurich main station, look for the car with bikes painted on the side. That one has plenty of room for bike and other storage and has a few seats in it too.

    You do need to be alert to shortish transfer times. I think we had one that was only 4 minutes, during which you needed to exit the train with all your stuff, go down stairs to go under the tracks to another platform, up the stairs and onto the train, so you had to have your shit together and make sure you went the right direction after you went downstairs. As Buster always says though, if you miss it, another train will be along in an hour to take you where you want to go. That applies unless you are on the last train of the night.

    I'm older than everyone who was there other than Buster, and traveled with my wife who is older than all but Buster and I, and we had no problem. We each packed a roller bag with ski boots and everything we needed to ski a couple of days, which we carried on, checked a Patagonia black hole duffel 60L that was not stuffed to the gills so I could cram my small carry on backpack into it when on the ground, and my smallish ski bag (the wife rented) into which I loaded shove, probe, and ski backpack. So, for train travel, I carried the black hole backpack style and the ski bag in one hand. My wife handled the 2 roller bags and her carry on style tote bag into which she puts the kitchen sink.

    we train traveled from airport to Michele's place, from St. Moritz to Klosters (went with the whole gang via vans for the day trip to St. Mo, but then we did not return to Mtn Lodge and thanks to ALIAS for the dropoff at train station!), Klosters to Luzern, then Luzern to airport. It all went off seamlessly without a hitch. The SBB app is great too. Just buy your tickets right as you are getting on the train and they pop up on your phone.

    Having ski gear, including boots, carry on was invaluable as my skis were delayed for 3 days.

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    Cheers, people.
    So. Much. Fun.


    At Spinas, waiting for the train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    One of the charming villages en route to St Moritz:
    Yeahhhh Cunter! Amazing Graubuenden town. Nice timing on weather

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Yeahhhh Cunter! Amazing Graubuenden town. Nice timing on weather
    Weather was kind of perfect: just the right amount of fresh to soften turns without creating an avie hazard. My last few Euro trips had too much snow.

    As of yesterday, Andermatt was isolated by another storm with trains and roads closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Weather was kind of perfect: just the right amount of fresh to soften turns without creating an avie hazard. My last few Euro trips had too much snow.

    As of yesterday, Andermatt was isolated by another storm with trains and roads closed.
    It looks like parts around Airolo have received ~2 meters in the last 24 hours. Insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw_wp_hedonism View Post
    It looks like parts around Airolo have received ~2 meters in the last 24 hours. Insane.
    Hey man, you deserve a maggot of the year award for towing my gray slow old ass around Davos! That place fucking r00lz.
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    Yep, I can confirm that we are getting buried!!!

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    The feeds from Andermatt/Sedrun are unreal!

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    I hope they stay closed another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vendul View Post
    Yep, I can confirm that we are getting buried!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    The feeds from Andermatt/Sedrun are unreal!
    I'd make a beeline for Disentis trees!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    I'd make a beeline for Disentis trees!
    Word...

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    Thanks for all the write ups and photos, as everyone keeps saying you guys hit the jackpot weather / timing wise.

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    The Alps are wonderful. Can confirm!

    Decompressing on Ligurian Coast after 2 weeks in Valle d’Aosta. 2 weeks of sun, corn, chalk, gelato, Gamay, touring, groomer ripping on Monsters, etc etc. TR coming when back in NZ.

    Well done, all of you on EuroBBI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Hey man, you deserve a maggot of the year award for towing my gray slow old ass around Davos! That place fucking r00lz.
    Haha anytime!

    So excited about fresh powder tomorrow that I’m hiking up the mountain at 5.30am for a nice run down before the lifts open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vendul View Post
    Yep, I can confirm that we are getting buried!!!
    like your new logo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Island Bay View Post
    The Alps are wonderful. Can confirm!

    Decompressing on Ligurian Coast after 2 weeks in Valle d’Aosta. 2 weeks of sun, corn, chalk, gelato, Gamay, touring, groomer ripping on Monsters, etc etc. TR coming when back in NZ.

    Well done, all of you on EuroBBI.
    Funny, I'm doing the same thing. Chilling in Levanto after two weeks in Aosta, Cham, and Alagna. Great minds think alike.
    Looks like BBI Europe was great. Maybe next time...

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    First EuroBBI Thursday March 21, 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Cheers, people.
    So. Much. Fun.


    At Spinas, waiting for the train.
    cheers buster! super thankful for you leading the way here, and vendul for setting us up for success. been dreaming and scheming the next trip since i left; can’t imagine a much better time or group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shroom View Post
    cheers buster! super thankful for you leading the way here, and vendul for setting us up for success. been dreaming and scheming the next trip since i left; can’t imagine a much better time or group.
    Agreed on all accounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Agreed on all accounts.
    Thirded. Looking forward to making turns with you guys again next year.


    Northwest Slider and Willy having fun at Disentis. These turns were 5 days after the last storm and required no hiking.

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