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    Red Rider alternatives

    I've got a Red Rider in my office for picking off pigeons on the roof top patio. Occasionally with just the right shot from close range I can make a kill but usually they just fly away. The little fuckers are shitting all over the table and deck, they seem to know when there is no one in the office and hang out shitting all over. I want to upgrade the Red Rider with a stronger spring or just get something a bit more powerful to actually end these fuckers. It needs to be legal in Canada so needs to be less than 500FPS. Any suggestions?
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    Ditch the Red Rider, or any gun if you can't get a higher powered gun. You need something quiet that can shoot bunch of bb's at a time.

    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    you kill one pigeon and more come back comrad. you need to take comand

    burn the building down, they will not have a place to sit and shit.

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    Shooting pigeons center of mass with a Red Rider is fkn weak. Head shots=clean kill, clean miss
    Low skill levels...just a matter of time before you shoot someone's eye out with that thing. Stick to trashketball OP.

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    Red Rider alternatives

    So some fun facts about Pigeons

    They mate for life.

    They have been observed to pair based upon physical attraction. The white and brown being seen as less attractive, up through the spectrum of the Grey and white Up to the ones with the beautiful shiny green and purple hackle.

    Thought to navigate magnetically but the popular theory now is they use celestial objects (planetarium study)

    .177 co2 because pumps are gonna have too high FPS mostly.

    Better not cut up nor otherwise harm no pigeons...

    Whole operation has redneck written all over it. As hawk suggested more jus gon’ come back for your sport til you do something else about it.

    Do you also shoot puppies with that B.B. gun?
    Poison guppies
    And when you’re done,
    Find a pussycat and bash it’s head?
    What’s that you’re momma said?
    What did she say?
    She said my boy I think some day
    You’ll find a way
    To make your natural tendencies pay...

    https://youtu.be/bOtMizMQ6oM

    Side note anybody remember Brewster McCloud the movie? Weird.


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    Um, you'll shoot your eye out
    Gimme five, I'm still alive!
    Ain't no luck, I learned to duck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Jerry View Post
    Um, you'll shoot your eye out
    How did this take till post #6?
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    All the world seems in tune
    On a spring afternoon,
    When we're poisoning pigeons in the park.
    Ev'ry sunday you'll see
    My sweetheart and me,
    As we poison the pigeons in the park.

    When they see us coming, the birdies all try an' hide,
    But they still go for peanuts when coated with cyanide.
    The sun's shining bright,
    Ev'rything seems all right,
    When we're poisoning pigeons in the park.

    Lalaalaalalaladoodiedieedoodoodoo

    We've gained notoriety,
    And caused much anxiety
    In the audubon society
    With our games.
    They call it impiety,
    And lack of propriety,
    And quite a variety
    Of unpleasant names.
    But it's not against any religion
    To want to dispose of a pigeon.

    So if sunday you're free,
    Why don't you come with me,
    And we'll poison the pigeons in the park.
    And maybe we'll do
    In a squirrel or two,
    While we're poisoning pigeons in the park.

    We'll murder them all amid laughter and merriment.
    Except for the few we take home to experiment.
    My pulse will be quickenin'
    With each drop of strychnine
    We feed to a pigeon.
    It just takes a smidgin!
    To poison a pigeon in the park.
    . . .

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    Benjamin Sheridan - problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    How did this take till post #6?
    Post 4 by highangle, check it
    Fear, Doubt, Disbelief, you have to let it all go. Free your mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Ditch the Red Rider, or any gun if you can't get a higher powered gun. You need something quiet that can shoot bunch of bb's at a time.

    Wrist rocket is what my dad used. A bunch of projectiles at once.

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    you trying to show us up at BBI biathalon?
    skid luxury

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    So some fun facts about Pigeons
    They’re delicious.


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    Morality arguments aside,

    Break barrel .177 pellet air rifle. You can get one with a scope for around $100 at Amazon, Big 5, Wally World, etc. Get it sighted in right and you'll be surprised how accurate and powerful they are. For pigeons, deadly inside of 30 yards.

    I use mine for skunks and raccoons that fuck with my chickens but I use ballistic tipped pellets for them. Very persuasive.

    They're also a lot of fun just to shoot in the back yard, as long as you've got a good stop or a long clear range, which I do.

    edit: Just saw you were limited to 500 fps, these are well over that. I have a Daisy Powerline pump BB/Pellet gun as well, but it shoots the BB's at around 600 fps, not sure about the pellets. Pretty accurate but not much in the way of knockdown power, Might be an option though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    How did this take till post #6?
    And don't forget the ever reliable but strangely fading: nuke from orbit, behead the remains.

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    “I have a responsibility to not be intimidated and bullied by low life losers who abuse what little power is granted to them as ski patrollers.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskido View Post
    Post 4 by highangle, check it
    F. You'll shoot your eye out.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    The Sheridan's are serious guns. Had two friends with a silver streak and a blue streak. I've shot the shit out of those things. We used to go shoot frogs at a pond near our houses. One day we were walking around the pond, me and my two buddies. I had my Crossman 760 and they had the Sheridan's, we're walking along and hear the thwack of one of them going off. I turn around and my buddy Ronny's face is ash white immediately. He was locked and loaded and had the gun pointed down, accidentally shot himself in the foot. The .20 pellet went through his shoe, through his foot, and was in his sock on the bottom of his foot. A trip to the hospital and we didn't get to shoot them very much anymore, heh.

    They also put out pellets at around 650fps, so they're ruled out.

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    I used a .22 for shooting down from a bedroom window and a pump pellet rifle for shooting up to the roof when I fought a war with squirrels in my attic. Got some with both weapons but the kill ratio hit 100% when started using a Have A Heart trap first. Just sayin.
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    Why don’t you put a rubber owl out there?

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    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyk View Post
    Why don’t you put a rubber owl out there?
    Rubber clowns are scarier.

    Second the pellet gun, accurate and pack a punch. Stock up on some throwing stars as your sidearm. Silent and deadly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaver View Post
    I've got a Red Rider in my office for picking off pigeons on the roof top patio. Occasionally with just the right shot from close range I can make a kill but usually they just fly away. The little fuckers are shitting all over the table and deck, they seem to know when there is no one in the office and hang out shitting all over. I want to upgrade the Red Rider with a stronger spring or just get something a bit more powerful to actually end these fuckers. It needs to be legal in Canada so needs to be less than 500FPS. Any suggestions?
    There are not a lot of quality air guns out there <500 fps, and none that will reliably take out pigeons. Its too low a velocity with too small a round, you're just gonna wound and/or doom them to a slow death shooting 177 <500 fps. Even crappy air guns shoot 6-800fps and semi decent ones are 1,000+. Look for a solution outside of an air rifle. Molotovs? Krav Maga? Take out their leader??
    Quote Originally Posted by Garth Bimble View Post
    edit: Just saw you were limited to 500 fps, these are well over that. I have a Daisy Powerline pump BB/Pellet gun as well, but it shoots the BB's at around 600 fps, not sure about the pellets. Pretty accurate but not much in the way of knockdown power
    exactly

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    Lay out and tack down slinkys where they roast. Dont stretchbthe slinkies out so they can stand between the loops.

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    I say go the organic route. Get a Peregrine Falcon. They eat pigeons.
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