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    Buster, if you are going there as first stop from zurich (or last), also check out the Arlberg Express which is a scheduled, private bus service that runs every day and multiple times on weekend days as an alternative to the train. The bus drops off in each village, unlike the train, so it potentially opens up the other villages as sleeping options, and you don't have to worry with any changes or intermediate stops as you do with the train.

    Stuben used to be a bargain. I stayed there twice when younger, but now that the 2 sides are lift connected via Stuben, I understand it has become more similar to the larger villages in terms of cost.

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    The Arlberg Express sounds like a reasonable option but I like to be able to ski all day, pick my stuff up at the hotel/hostel in the late afternoon and hop the train to go to the next place. I'll see how viable it is to get to the train from the satellite villages.

    I did search Stuben for lodging, but the rates there are not obviously cheaper. I might be missing something, so let me know if I missed something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    I'll see how viable it is to get to the train from the satellite villages
    taxis were relatively reasonable for short distance when push came to shove in my outdated experience. the web suggests still not that bad - like 10-15e from the train station to st. jakob. i like the train, but some of the branch lines like to Montafon were slow and infrequent (especially at the end of the ski day) compared to the bus service. Davos/klosters was an interesting place, another you might or might not add would be the st. moritz area (think you asked about it before).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    R/T air to ZRH from SEA is $525 now.
    Nice deal on the flight! Please post Mooserwirt videos on return!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    taxis were relatively reasonable for short distance when push came to shove in my outdated experience. the web suggests still not that bad - like 10-15e from the train station to st. jakob. i like the train, but some of the branch lines like to Montafon were slow and infrequent (especially at the end of the ski day) compared to the bus service. Davos/klosters was an interesting place, another you might or might not add would be the st. moritz area (think you asked about it before).
    Taxis are an option, but it's just one more variable when I make transfers. If there's better deals in Stuben, it might be worth it (Langen is the rail connection to Stuben I think).

    Yeah, never been to Davos/Klosters and it's been raved up by some friends, so it's definAtely part of the objective for this year. It's expensive.

    I did manage a couple of days in St. Moritz a few years ago and that place is awesome I thought, but I'll skip it this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    I was trying to hit Bad Gastein, St. Anton, Montafon, Davos and then end up in dear old Andermatt over the course of 15 days, but Bad Gastein connections aren't working out well, so I may not make it there this time.
    I'm interested in what you learn about the Bad Gastein portion. Seems to me that linking Davos with the Voralberg or even Arlberg will be tricky--lots of transfers and three to four hours, but maybe I'm missing something.
    St. Anton to or from Montafon should be pretty straightforward. Also, Davos/Kloster to St. Moritz would be fairly easy and the trains definitely run hourly after the lifts close. I've the train travel in that area is spectacular. Maybe worth timing your trip to coincide with sunset. Keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafjell View Post
    I'm interested in what you learn about the Bad Gastein portion.
    I went and stayed in BG this last summer via train with my family on the way from Vienna down to Val Gardena in the Dolomites.
    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ps-Summer-2018
    We found a great little hotel there, https://hotelechobadgastein.com/ run by a Finnish girl and her s.o. that was really cool, kind of on the backside of the big hotsprings spa there. It's 55E/pp/night including a killer breakfast. I want to go back and ski. It's a big complex between the interconnect to Bad Hofgastein and bus service to Sport Gastein, Dorfgastein and Graukogel, collectively Ski Amade, not to mention a train tunnel to Mallnitz. Vertical is not that big, in the neighborhood of 1000m to 1500 m, but they get a lot of snow, reportedly more than St. Anton (heresy, I know).

    Seems to me that linking Davos with the Voralberg or even Arlberg will be tricky--lots of transfers and three to four hours, but maybe I'm missing something.
    It's not bad, see https://www.oebb.at/en/ or https://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html where Schruns to Klosters is 2+ hours with changes at Bludenz, Sargans and Landquart. The changes can be sort of nerve wracking at first, but I'm getting used to doing it. What's great is how you really can count on the trains being on time.
    St. Anton to or from Montafon should be pretty straightforward. Also, Davos/Kloster to St. Moritz would be fairly easy and the trains definitely run hourly after the lifts close. I've the train travel in that area is spectacular. Maybe worth timing your trip to coincide with sunset. Keep us posted.
    I have some good friends around Andermatt and I want to check out venduls new project, https://www.mt-lodge.com/ in Sedrun between Disentis and Andermatt, so the plan is to go hang out with them and ski something stupid this time. I would like to go back to St. Moritz again, that place blew me away, but there's so much to do and we have so little time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Vertical is not that big, in the neighborhood of 1000m to 1500 m, but they get a lot of snow, reportedly more than St. Anton (heresy, I know).

    It's not bad, see https://www.oebb.at/en/ or https://www.sbb.ch/en/home.html where Schruns to Klosters is 2+ hours with changes at Bludenz, Sargans and Landquart. The changes can be sort of nerve wracking at first, but I'm getting used to doing it. What's great is how you really can count on the trains being on time.


    I have some good friends around Andermatt and I want to check out venduls new project, https://www.mt-lodge.com/ in Sedrun between Disentis and Andermatt, so the plan is to go hang out with them and ski something stupid this time. I would like to go back to St. Moritz again, that place blew me away, but there's so much to do and we have so little time.
    Funny how 3,200' to 5,000' of vertical isn't a big deal over there.

    That's odd, I thought that Davos was Rhaetia Bahn only. 3 hours with two stops (and no small children) is doable. The other nice part of your leaving after the lifts close is you still have a good four hours of service in case you are delayed and miss a connection. Swiss, German, and Austrian rail is really reliable but not perfect.

    Had not heard of Sedrun. Looks fantastic, and kind of a layup if you're going to Andermatt already. So many places, so little time.

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    This thread got me dreaming of my trip to Engelberg, Davos & St. Anton back in 2010, so just for shits and giggles I searched some flights......

    DEN -> ZRH rt for $379 in late Feb! Damn, that's obscenely cheap.

    Buster, when I was in St. Anton we stayed down in Pettnau, just a few km from the main village for 40eu/pp/nt and the room came with breakfast. It was nothing fancy, but on the valley shuttle bus line and there were a couple of decent restaurants right there. I need to go back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dromond View Post
    Nice deal on the flight! Please post Mooserwirt videos on return!
    I'm more of a Blue Moon guy.


    fyi:The Blue Moon is a tavern located on the west edge of the University District, Seattle, Washington, that has been visited by many counterculture icons over the years. It opened in April 1934, soon after the repeal of Prohibition in December 1933. It is the first and oldest tavern in the U-District. It was an instant hit with students (together with the still-thriving Duchess Tavern in Ravenna); under state law, students had to trek one mile from the campus to purchase drinks. The Blue Moon was one of the rare bars outside of the Central District to serve African American servicemen during World War II. The tavern also provided a haven for UW professors such as Joe Butterworth who were caught up in the McCarthyist purge.[1] It had further heyday in the 1950s and 1960s. Regulars included authors Tom Robbins and Darrell Bob Houston,[2] poets Theodore Roethke, Richard Hugo, Carolyn Kizer, Stanley Kunitz, and David Wagoner, and painters Richard Gilkey and Leo Kenney. Visitors included Dylan Thomas, Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsberg and Mik Moore. Mentioned in Desolation Angels.
    A popular story states that sometime in the late 1960s, Tom Robbins tried to call the artist Pablo Picasso in Barcelona from a pay phone at the Blue Moon Tavern. Supposedly, Robbins got through to Picasso, but the artist refused to accept the overseas collect calling charges.
    The Blue Moon declined in the 1970s. Efforts to "redevelop" the property in 1989 were derailed by community activists led by Walt Crowley; however, an attempt in 1990 to gain landmark status failed. Developers spared the tavern after landmark status was denied. The Blue Moon remains one of the few surviving blue-collar landmarks in Seattle.[3][4]
    The Blue Moon (1934), the Duchess (1934),[5] and the Knarr on The Ave (1935) are the oldest taverns in the University of Washington area.
    In 1995, the alley to the west of the Blue Moon was named Roethke Mews in honor of the late poet.[6]
    A tour of the Blue Moon by Novelist-In-Residence James Knisely may be found at HistoryLink-dot-org [1]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    I would like to go back to St. Moritz again, that place blew me away, but there's so much to do and we have so little time.
    interesting tidbit here. I have skied Euro several times but never actually considered StM because of its glitzy rep. I'll have to do some research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Mike View Post
    interesting tidbit here. I have skied Euro several times but never actually considered StM because of its glitzy rep. I'll have to do some research.
    In the states, Aspen sort of has the same rep, but has a ton of great skiing.

    I highly, highly recommend a day at Corvatsch and another at La Galb/Diavolezza. I didn't ski Corviglia, but was told about some great sidecountry off the backside to a train pickup.
    It is expensive, but we found lodging at a little b&b above Pontresina for 70CHF each/night including a great pocket filling breakfast.

    There's a hostel right by the train station in Pontresina that's even less expensive, but evidently, one need reservations often.
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