Hurricane Florence

[BigDaddy]

seriously, flag has been replaced ? someone stayed as Florence went by; i'm jealous; I knew that thing could take it.

No... they lost power, so the feed is no longer live. I posted before I smoked my crack, which is what I thought you're supposed to do?! All "highlights" now, so one stayed there.

Here's a great time lapse of yesterdays shredding, tho:

[iceman]

Fuckin' Kevin. Kid was tough.

[hawkgt]

Fuckin' Kevin. Kid was tough.

[KQ]

Don't Condemn People Who Don't Evacuate for Hurricane Florence


In the aftermath of landfall, it might be tempting to condemn the people who stayed behind, but please be gentle. Evacuation, like most disaster resilience actions—and really, like most of life—is easier if you have wealth, health and extensive social networks. Being able to pack up your life and leave takes privileges you may not even realize you have. Everyone is doing the best they can based on their personal context.

It takes money to displace yourself. It takes having somewhere better to go and a way to get there. Having a full tank of gas is a luxury when you live paycheck to paycheck. Spending money up front and then waiting for reimbursement requires that you have the money in the first place, while knowing what expenses are covered and how to file the paperwork requires knowledge not everyone has or has access to.

Missing shifts at work is unthinkable when every dollar counts. Some workplaces keep employees as long as legally possible, more worried about lost profits than lost lives.

[nutmegchoi]

Kevin reminds me of Gavin the Seagull from some years ago.





Actually this is one of my favorite T-shirt.

[Benny Profane]

Don't Condemn People Who Don't Evacuate for Hurricane Florence


In the aftermath of landfall, it might be tempting to condemn the people who stayed behind, but please be gentle. Evacuation, like most disaster resilience actions—and really, like most of life—is easier if you have wealth, health and extensive social networks. Being able to pack up your life and leave takes privileges you may not even realize you have. Everyone is doing the best they can based on their personal context.

It takes money to displace yourself. It takes having somewhere better to go and a way to get there. Having a full tank of gas is a luxury when you live paycheck to paycheck. Spending money up front and then waiting for reimbursement requires that you have the money in the first place, while knowing what expenses are covered and how to file the paperwork requires knowledge not everyone has or has access to.

Missing shifts at work is unthinkable when every dollar counts. Some workplaces keep employees as long as legally possible, more worried about lost profits than lost lives.

Word. Another symptom of the class divisions.

[east or bust]

Don't Condemn People Who Don't Evacuate for Hurricane Florence


In the aftermath of landfall, it might be tempting to condemn the people who stayed behind, but please be gentle. Evacuation, like most disaster resilience actions—and really, like most of life—is easier if you have wealth, health and extensive social networks. Being able to pack up your life and leave takes privileges you may not even realize you have. Everyone is doing the best they can based on their personal context.

It takes money to displace yourself. It takes having somewhere better to go and a way to get there. Having a full tank of gas is a luxury when you live paycheck to paycheck. Spending money up front and then waiting for reimbursement requires that you have the money in the first place, while knowing what expenses are covered and how to file the paperwork requires knowledge not everyone has or has access to.

Missing shifts at work is unthinkable when every dollar counts. Some workplaces keep employees as long as legally possible, more worried about lost profits than lost lives.

was just about to post something along those lines, a lot of the population in that region is at or below the poverty line

[Sirshredalot]

was just about to post something along those lines, a lot of the population in that region is at or below the poverty line

The reason it's been attractive to upper middle class blue hairs as a spot to retire is that the local economy has jack shit for work, holding property values and general cost of living down. After thirty years working a decent-paying job in NYC, you can plop yourself down there and live like a king: you're worth more than all the native born-and-raised except for a handful of families still coasting on slave-dealing money.

Everyone else is scraping by.

[SkiCougar]

No... they lost power, so the feed is no longer live. I posted before I smoked my crack, which is what I thought you're supposed to do?! All "highlights" now, so one stayed there.

Here's a great time lapse of yesterdays shredding, tho:

dam, if that thing kept power thru Florence; he could be renting it out for years with all the publicity; I woulda booked.

[Benny Profane]

The reason it's been attractive to upper middle class blue hairs as a spot to retire is that the local economy has jack shit for work, holding property values and general cost of living down. After thirty years working a decent-paying job in NYC, you can plop yourself down there and live like a king: you're worth more than all the native born-and-raised except for a handful of families still coasting on slave-dealing money.

Everyone else is scraping by.

Lots of golf, too.

[Sirshredalot]

Lots of golf, too.

Plus, I hear the weather's nice.

[Benny Profane]

Plus, I hear the weather's nice.

Not really. Hot and humid in summer, and sleety and scuzzy in winter.

[Sirshredalot]

Not really. Hot and humid in summer, and sleety and scuzzy in winter.

I'm familiar with it. My parents retired to a place on the ICW across from Wrightsville Beach. If they hit 15' above the normal high tide mark on the salt creek behind their house today, the house is flooded and the peninsula they live on is totally swamped.

Most of the neighborhood evacuated and the power is out, so it's Schrodinger's box of storm damage right now.

[Benny Profane]

Landslide porn is the anal sex of disaster porn.

[Benny Profane]

I'm familiar with it. My parents retired to a place on the ICW across from Wrightsville Beach. If they hit 15' above the normal high tide mark on the salt creek behind their house today, the house is flooded and the peninsula they live on is totally swamped.

Most of the neighborhood evacuated and the power is out, so it's Schrodinger's box of storm damage right now.

When was that house built?

[Sirshredalot]

When was that house built?

They tore down the o.g. beat up little rancher that was from the 50s or 60s(?) and rebuilt when they moved there about 10 years ago. They're not out on the barrier islands (that would be a stretch for them in retirement and they were concerned about storms) and the lot has some breathing room before you hit the water line, so they're better off than a lot of folks in that regard. The salt creek out back has some distance and elevation to cover before everyone on their street is fucked. It hasn't come particularly close in living memory, but that doesn't mean it's impossible if the wind and tide line up juuuust right.

And, yes, if they get the drywall wet, federal taxpayers are paying for the cleanup for the whole street. They're currently twiddling their thumbs in a Super 8 in suburban Charlotte, so they'll be fine.

[AK47bp]

especially when it’s mud and hot lava

Frothy santorum.


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[Benny Profane]

Dude..... I am not saying there have not been worse or bigger or stronger storms in the past.

In the past year and a half some fucking orange manbaby has rolled back a whole bunch or things that might have delayed what now seems inevitable.

IDGAF, no kids, early 60s, when this shit really hits the fan I will be long gone so fuck it. Burn it, log it, strip mine it and lets have a great big party.

For those who do have kids, or are in their 20s..............

Of course, but that's not the point. Even without climate change, or, global warming, for those that didn't get the memo, the fact that so many live there in harm's way would still be an issue. It's not as though hurricanes are a new thing. But now, they're being exploited as the evidence of something new, unusual, man made, the last a pretty arrogant label, as though we have such power to make something so glorious. Its not just here. We do it for pleasure and status, living by the water in flat places. In Bangladesh, they get hammered by cyclones every five years or so in that big delta next to the Indian ocean, many die because they live in shacks and have no where to go, and may not even know it's coming, but, they're right back scratching the earth for substinence. Forget about the Philippines, but, hey, you have to go out and fish to feed the family. But, at least we know better. I think. Of course, we've entered the twilight zone where deficits don't matter and the top ten percent can always feed at the trough as they sneer at the poor collecting food stamps, so they can just look at it like a big adventure, and the guvment pays to fix or rebuild their home.

[muted]

Don't Condemn People Who Don't Evacuate for Hurricane Florence


In the aftermath of landfall, it might be tempting to condemn the people who stayed behind, but please be gentle. Evacuation, like most disaster resilience actions—and really, like most of life—is easier if you have wealth, health and extensive social networks. Being able to pack up your life and leave takes privileges you may not even realize you have. Everyone is doing the best they can based on their personal context.

It takes money to displace yourself. It takes having somewhere better to go and a way to get there. Having a full tank of gas is a luxury when you live paycheck to paycheck. Spending money up front and then waiting for reimbursement requires that you have the money in the first place, while knowing what expenses are covered and how to file the paperwork requires knowledge not everyone has or has access to.

Missing shifts at work is unthinkable when every dollar counts. Some workplaces keep employees as long as legally possible, more worried about lost profits than lost lives.

So you can't pay for a tank of gas to go to a free shelter, but you can afford to die and potentially lose a young kid or grandma? Also, do they charge for food at these shelters? I'm sure some have broken down cars, no place to go but there is a lot f rich people hunkering down too. Not that I really care but when I was broke I did a lotta dumb shit because I was dumb. I reckon it's the same with most people, privileged or not.

[concretejungle]

So you can't pay for a tank of gas to go to a free shelter, but you can afford to die and potentially lose a young kid or grandma? Also, do they charge for food at these shelters? I'm sure some have broken down cars, no place to go but there is a lot f rich people hunkering down too. Not that I really care but when I was broke I did a lotta dumb shit because I was dumb. I reckon it's the same with most people, privileged or not.

They're also penalized at their minimum wage job if they leave, if the storm misses and their not there, etc.

The rich that hunker down are idiots.

[BigDaddy]

dam, if that thing kept power thru Florence; he could be renting it out for years with all the publicity; I woulda booked.

It's definitely famous now... in fact, I could see the remnants of Kevin getting sold on ebay with the profits going to help some of the victims.

Might raise a few grand? Group buy and we put it in the TGR HOF?

[Sirshredalot]

They're also penalized at their minimum wage job if they leave, if the storm misses and their not there, etc.

The rich that hunker down are idiots.

I think my parents had some neighbors who stayed. Worst case scenario, there's a huge tree down across the only road in and out of the neighborhood, your house has a foot of water in the living room, you have no power, boat access to the neighborhood is cut off due to water conditions and damage to the dock, and you're 70 years old. Not a good choice.

[KQ]

So you can't pay for a tank of gas to go to a free shelter, but you can afford to die and potentially lose a young kid or grandma? Also, do they charge for food at these shelters? I'm sure some have broken down cars, no place to go but there is a lot f rich people hunkering down too. Not that I really care but when I was broke I did a lotta dumb shit because I was dumb. I reckon it's the same with most people, privileged or not.

Re: the kids. I saw an interview with a couple who was too poor to go to a shelter so they and their two kids were going to shelter in place. Wife also said she had an autoimmune disorder and feared being in close quarters with all those people (might get sick). Okay fine for you and hubby but why not send the kids to safety? They were 8 &10 I think.

Surely there were friends or neighbors who could have escorted the kids to a shelter and watched over them. Like they did in England during the war - they sent the kids out of London and into the countryside for safety.

[SkiCougar]

It's definitely famous now... in fact, I could see the remnants of Kevin getting sold on ebay with the profits going to help some of the victims.

Might raise a few grand? Group buy and we put it in the TGR HOF?

most likely some rich guy fixes it up and invites friends out to show it off now that it's a national thing.

[Benny Profane]

So you can't pay for a tank of gas to go to a free shelter, but you can afford to die and potentially lose a young kid or grandma? Also, do they charge for food at these shelters? I'm sure some have broken down cars, no place to go but there is a lot f rich people hunkering down too. Not that I really care but when I was broke I did a lotta dumb shit because I was dumb. I reckon it's the same with most people, privileged or not.

Have you seen that headline that pops up every now and often over the past decade or so, the one that says, a lot of people have no money? Here, just from a quick Google search: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/02/abou...y-savings.html

"Across nearly all ages and generations, from millennials to baby boomers, one-quarter of Americans, or roughly 55 million people, said they had nothing saved in an emergency fund, according to a Bankrate.com survey of 1,000 adults conducted last month. (The Silent Generation — over age 73 — were much more likely to have something set aside.)"

Now, we're talking about a place where a lot of people are poor, so you can bet most are in this no savings boat. Doubt they have a nice, points rich MasterCard either, with a 20,000 dollar limit, like a lot on this board. Shit, probably zero credit. Imagine trying to pack up the family, even if only a couple, hell, just single, and just drive away from the storm, trying to find a safe place to hide, and eat and fill the tank. That could turn into a thousand dollar experience fast. Yeah, hope the car, if you even have a car, is up to the task. And then there's that whole job thing. Maybe your boss is a prick, and fires you because you were absent, or, simply, you're so paycheck to paycheck that a week away from work will sink you financially for months, especially combined with the above mentioned costs of a week in a Super 8 on the side of some highway hundreds of miles away. So, you stay close to home, an minimize your time off, because, you know, they've been wrong before about storm paths, right?

It sucks to be poor, especially at times like this.