Crystal Mountain Becomes Alterra

[Ørion]

Did my part

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There's absolutely zero identity verification with their system, you don't even have to verify a live email address to make a reservation, and there's a $100 fee for being a no-show.

...in a completely unrelated topic, entirely disconnected from the thought above, think anyone knows the license plate # of a Mr. F. Deberry?

[counterfeitfake]

How on earth could they fine you for not showing? They plan to be certain they scan in every single vehicle in the lot?

This is a fucking shitnado. I can't even bring the site up.

[3pin]

That data shows the skier density (not stupidity, although clearly that's in question as well) at the average resort has steadily climbed and that's what we're experiencing.

91/92 50M/542 == 92,250.922 visits/resort
96/97 52M/502 == 102,564.102 visits/resort
10/11 60M/486 == 123,456.790 visits/resort
20/21 59M/462 == 127,705.627 visits/resort

This also ignores the distribution of skiers in the Plangent Sound relative to the midwaste.

On average that's 35,454.705 more visits per resort since 91/92. Flat my ass.

The numbers are way more tilted if you look at urban growth and actual destination ski areas, I'm sure.

Adding to this, last week's NYT climate change & skiing article had the state that the average ski season has shrunk by 34 days in almost that same time period. So not only is average visitation up, but it would be significantly higher on a per-day basis (especially adjusted for weekend peaks).

[f=ma]

There's absolutely zero identity verification with their system, you don't even have to verify a live email address to make a reservation, and there's a $100 fee for being a no-show.

...in a completely unrelated topic, entirely disconnected from the thought above, think anyone knows the license plate # of a Mr. F. Deberry?

What!?!? My license plate is totally "FUCKYOU" and my email is absolutely AlterraSucks@AOL.com

[oftpiste]

LMFAO. Well played.

What!?!? My license plate is totally "FUCKYOU" and my email is absolutely AlterraSucks@AOL.com

[XavierD]

Anyone know what Frank drives? Asking for a friend…

[Crippity]

Conditions advice please. Supposed to fly out a week from today and be at crystal next thursday and friday. i am fortunate to have the flexibility to postpone. Based on current weather and forecast what advice would you have for this old snowboarder? i guess based on flexibility i could be asking this question a few days from now but im getting antsy. Thanks in advance. first timer here too if that makes a differerence

[nickwm21]

Conditions advice please. Supposed to fly out a week from today and be at crystal next thursday and friday. i am fortunate to have the flexibility to postpone. Based on current weather and forecast what advice would you have for this old snowboarder? i guess based on flexibility i could be asking this question a few days from now but im getting antsy. Thanks in advance. first timer here too if that makes a differerence

This is the Pacific North West - you can’t trust our weather more than 3 days out. Chances are it will both rain and snow in the mountains between now and next Thursday. How that hits is anyones guess.


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[Dromond]

Conditions advice please. Supposed to fly out a week from today and be at crystal next thursday and friday. i am fortunate to have the flexibility to postpone. Based on current weather and forecast what advice would you have for this old snowboarder? i guess based on flexibility i could be asking this question a few days from now but im getting antsy. Thanks in advance. first timer here too if that makes a differerence

The forecast looks really warm. In your shoes I would absolutely postpone.

[altasnob]

Can you switch to Alaska? Snow forecast next 10 days:

[Fishskisurf]

OpenSnow 10 day shows next to nothing resembling January conditions, give it a few days but likely postpone

[phatty]

Yeah, January is usually a rough month. Come President's Day and it's on.

[SpeLunker]

Conditions advice please. Supposed to fly out a week from today and be at crystal next thursday and friday. i am fortunate to have the flexibility to postpone. Based on current weather and forecast what advice would you have for this old snowboarder? i guess based on flexibility i could be asking this question a few days from now but im getting antsy. Thanks in advance. first timer here too if that makes a differerence

If you can postpone, do it.

[puma]

Conditions advice please. Supposed to fly out a week from today and be at crystal next thursday and friday. i am fortunate to have the flexibility to postpone. Based on current weather and forecast what advice would you have for this old snowboarder? i guess based on flexibility i could be asking this question a few days from now but im getting antsy. Thanks in advance. first timer here too if that makes a differerence

It is not likely to be good. While weather forecasts change frequently around here, in my experience, these warm split-flow patterns in winter are usually fairly accurate...They happen every year. My money would be on this lasting a few weeks, and then a nice Feb...If you can wait, wait and postpone closer to the time. If not, postpone.

[TAFKALVS]

That data shows the skier density (not stupidity, although clearly that's in question as well) at the average resort has steadily climbed and that's what we're experiencing.

91/92 50M/542 == 92,250.922 visits/resort
96/97 52M/502 == 102,564.102 visits/resort
10/11 60M/486 == 123,456.790 visits/resort
20/21 59M/462 == 127,705.627 visits/resort

This also ignores the distribution of skiers in the Plangent Sound relative to the midwaste.

On average that's 35,454.705 more visits per resort since 91/92. Flat my ass.

Your post got my mind going.

Here in the greater Spokane area, we have ~8800 acres of lift served terrain split between 5 resorts with 2 hours drive of the population. Additionally we have resorts nearby in Canada and Montana that are a reasonable weekend trip. (Red, Turner, Whitefish, etc)

Population of the greater Spokane/CDA region is roughly 600,000 people.

In comparison, the greater Seattle region is roughly 4 million people. 7000 - 8000 acres lift served skiing, if you count Mission. Much of those acres doesn't fit market needs/desires. Very little beginner or intermediate terrain. Canadian resorts are actually a fairly decent trek, and obviously the border has been closed/difficult to manage for the last 24 months.

The Spokane/INW areas can feel a bit busy from time to time... we honestly could use terrain and parking expansions at most mountains for peak days/weekends. (Which is happening now at Lookout Pass and Schweitzer.)

It's pretty clear the Seattle market is well overdue for more infrastructure to serve the ski community. If podunk Lookout Pass can afford an expansion (from 500 acres to 2000 acres and 3 more lifts), I think it's a huge joke that Alterra and Vail can't even seem to find a way to run all of their lifts, not to mention expand. (ps Lookout is on USFS...)

[thejongiest]

Your post got my mind going.

Here in the greater Spokane area, we have ~8800 acres of lift served terrain split between 5 resorts with 2 hours drive of the population. Additionally we have resorts nearby in Canada and Montana that are a reasonable weekend trip. (Red, Turner, Whitefish, etc)

Population of the greater Spokane/CDA region is roughly 600,000 people.

In comparison, the greater Seattle region is roughly 4 million people. 7000 - 8000 acres lift served skiing, if you count Mission. Much of those acres doesn't fit market needs/desires. Very little beginner or intermediate terrain. Canadian resorts are actually a fairly decent trek, and obviously the border has been closed/difficult to manage for the last 24 months.

The Spokane/INW areas can feel a bit busy from time to time... we honestly could use terrain and parking expansions at most mountains for peak days/weekends. (Which is happening now at Lookout Pass and Schweitzer.)

It's pretty clear the Seattle market is well overdue for more infrastructure to serve the ski community. If podunk Lookout Pass can afford an expansion (from 500 acres to 2000 acres and 3 more lifts), I think it's a huge joke that Alterra and Vail can't even seem to find a way to run all of their lifts, not to mention expand. (ps Lookout is on USFS...)

Nice post

[PNW_Skier206]

Reminded on Sunday how great Crystal is when management doesn’t fuck things up. Parking lot was full per usual but Southback was amazing and untracked lines were available all day.




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[XavierD]

Anyone actually get a reservation for Sunday?

[timeo]

Yeah, I got both Sun and Mon but was basically parked at the computer after the crash for about an hour since I assumed it would randomly start working.

[sklar]

Anyone actually get a reservation for Sunday?

Yea, I got you.






(before the hate comes, not mine, a friend sent me this)

[oftpiste]

A new black market emerges. I wonder if they have buried language somewhere that makes this verboten or fine-able or....?

[ptavv]

Crystal is going to be pissed that they don't get a cut of the revenue this generates (to fund their bus program of course!)

[Buster Highmen]

I can imagine the surprise on Franks, that visionary, face.

[greenmachine]

The forecast looks really warm. In your shoes I would absolutely postpone.

this is accurate. January is not the time to come here for skiing. Late december and march.

[AK47bp]

Parking pass scalpers on the boulevard.

“Forgot to reserve parking? get you QR code here!”




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