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Thread: Crystal Mountain Becomes Alterra
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10-25-2022, 08:54 PM #1576Registered User
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A motel 6 would at least give you a weekly rate.
Then again, they are just pricing what the market will bear. Seems enough folks are willing to pony up for everyone of the recent "improvements" proposed over the last few years.
I guess the question is how do we make skiing uncool again?
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10-25-2022, 09:10 PM #1577
Unfortunately this is pretty accurate. At the end of the day it’s a competitive market and people will probably be willing to spend $5k+ for the season to reserve ‘their’ spot. The culture has and will continue to change. Xtal is hardly the only thing in the Seattle area that is going to the pay up or get out route. Too many people making a relatively large amount of money trying to work and live in the same area for the same reasons with relatively limited resources.
Who knows, maybe a looming techpocalypse will clear out the surplus of millennials making $300-700k a year to work 20 hour work weeks.
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10-25-2022, 09:33 PM #1578Registered User
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Hopefully the reopening of the border will draw people back to Whistler. Crystal amenities can't even come close to Whistler and Crystal really isn't cheaper.
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10-26-2022, 08:33 AM #1579
The skiing certainly isn't more expensive if you get an Epic Pass or Edge card, however you do need to find a place to stay when you ski Whistler, and good luck finding anything cheap. You can stay in Pemberton or Squamish and drive in every day, of course, but most don't want to do that.
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10-26-2022, 08:44 AM #1580Registered User
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in 2018 and 2019 we got EDGE cards (currently works out to like ($75/day), and could find $100usd creekside condos pretty easily.
Protip: Do not stay at the Pemberton Hotel unless you plan to party (or can take out hearing aids, but even then the vibration is impressive). The pub downstairs is a concert venue and there is zero soundproofing to the rooms upstairs. Concerts until 2-3am.
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10-26-2022, 08:47 AM #1581
Squamish is probably the place to be for cheap lodging that's not a hostel. There's some in Pemby, but not a whole lot.
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10-26-2022, 09:18 AM #1582
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10-26-2022, 09:26 AM #1583
Better jump on that before they sell out
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10-26-2022, 09:31 AM #1584Registered User
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just a cool $57/night (assuming a 4.5 month season)... plus water and sewer fees.
Or more likely, $214/night if you only use it every single weekend.
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10-26-2022, 09:36 AM #1585
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10-26-2022, 09:49 AM #1586
Crystal Mountain Becomes Alterra
If someone buys an RV spot for the season and only occasionally uses it, doesn’t that just leave an empty unused spot? Not sure how fast the RV parking fills up but that just seems shitty to turn other people away when there is an open unused spot.
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10-26-2022, 09:55 AM #1587Registered User
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Dude, airbnb the shit out of your luxury RV. I wonder if there is any fine-print to the RV spots? Plenty of folks will pay $150/night to stay in a really nice RV parked at the base.
How mobile does the RV need to be? Can i drop a single-wide in one of the spots for the season?
Also, i am a little surprised they arent overselling the RV passes, and then requiring reservations. That would be more in line with the season pass policy, no?
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10-26-2022, 10:06 AM #1588
Crystal Mountain Becomes Alterra
Mega Corp will break your legs if they don’t get a cut.
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10-26-2022, 10:08 AM #1589
Let's face it, from a make as much money as you can perspective, it is brilliant. Wealthy Crystal season pass holders were complaining how crowded it was, and how season passes were too cheap. So Alterra gave them what they want, a $1700 (now $1849) season pass.
Then those same wealthy, entitled, long time season pass holders complained that they had to make reservations for RV spots and compete with the peons. So Crystal gave them what they want, a $6,999 space that is all theirs.
Ya, people are going to be pretty pissed when Crystal says the parking lot is full only to have a bunch of empty RV spots sitting there unused.
The people who buy a $6,999 RV spot don't care about trying to AirBNB it out for extra cash. This is chump change for them.
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10-26-2022, 10:14 AM #1590
Buy your RV spot, park the Airstream there permanently for the season, take the Rover back to Seattle during the weekdays, back Friday evening with your own mountain chalet within walking distance to the gondy for $7k.
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10-26-2022, 10:15 AM #1591
So what's the next unpopular thing Crystal is going to try out? I'm going with "fast lane" passes like Bachelor.
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10-26-2022, 10:20 AM #1592
“First Tracks”.
But instead of 8-9am they will do 9-10am just to be dicks.
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10-26-2022, 10:25 AM #1593
Park it there and Airbnb the shit out of it. Nice camper. 150$ per night. Fuck them back.
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10-26-2022, 10:26 AM #1594
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10-26-2022, 11:04 AM #1595
Yep.
This is my concern with expanding that direction. The wilderness burn is some of the best touring in the area. It's already tricky enough to access the Bullion portal with the parking situation.
I bet it'll be paid parking for all, every day. Not just Fri/Sat/Sun/Holiday.
Yes it is. Greedy fucks.
Man I remember some great times based in B-lot and it makes me sad that I might never go back. Some big storms, fun parties, night shenanigans on the gondola, music and ski movies and fireplace chillin at the Elk with excellent nachos and pitchers of Elk Frost. Ski to the bar after last chair, ski across the bridge and down the path to B-lot to wind down... so fun. Sigh.
For a few seasons I'd poach the spot by the propane tank. I think I paid like twice. It was twenty bucks then.
I remember Skibum Roberts parking next to me in his little green Geo or whatever. He sat in the camper for a while to warm up and we talked about running into each other on Rainier and elsewhere. RIP
Hummel parked a couple spots down once, and had a bunch of strawberry moonshine that made the rounds with the various ski friends who'd pop into the RV. His brother got fall-down fucked up and I was worried he'd go blind, lol.
My daughter's first trip up into the snow was in B-lot, the first trip of many with the camper as kid-ski-base.
Good pow that weekend... cold deep December pow laps on Campbell.
That mountain is sweet but the management can get bent. Fuck Alterra and their ilk. Fuck the corporate grabs of ski hills. It is ruining skiing.
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10-26-2022, 11:17 AM #1596
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10-26-2022, 11:17 AM #1597Registered User
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solid post norse
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10-26-2022, 11:20 AM #1598
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10-26-2022, 11:28 AM #1599
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10-26-2022, 11:30 AM #1600
If they're smart and as assholish as they seem to be they'll do it like marinas do. They rent out vacated spots for the night, based on how long they'll be vacated, and the marina gets the fees. Wonder there's fine print about requirements to notify management if your $7k spot will be empty so they can fill it.
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