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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Send an email to customer service. I would be shocked if they do not offer a refund.

    Or, just cancel your season pass, and but a Ikon basic.
    You clearly don't know them very well.
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    I suspect more investment towards building hotels and parking lot than trail maintenance... but it may not be such a bad thing for this area to have a destination resort. Even if it doesnít draw visitors from out of state, if Seattle people do a week during holidays as a staycation because driving is far and sucks, then they made their money back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    You clearly don't know them very well.
    That obvious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmokes View Post
    but it may not be such a bad thing for this area to have a destination resort.
    Disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmokes View Post
    but it may not be such a bad thing for this area to have a destination resort.

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    Agreed, Stevens would be awesome.

    But really, the weather here is way too shitty to support the kind of blue skies and diaphanous powder the uppah crust seeks.
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    I hope the new owners get their ski patrol and avie control act together, that's easy to underestimate if one is coming in fresh.
    The thing is, in my 34 years of ski area, ski patrol and avi experience it is extremely rare for an ownership change to have much effect on the ski patrol and avi programs the 1st year or even 2 unless there was a death involved.

    I am far away in Montana so I don't know the inner workings. Is JK leaving? Or just going to be a non-owner/manager? Is Kim stepping down?

    I am curious because there are rumblings here in Big Sky country as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not bunion View Post
    The thing is, in my 34 years of ski area, ski patrol and avi experience it is extremely rare for an ownership change to have much effect on the ski patrol and avi programs the 1st year or even 2 unless there was a death involved.

    I am far away in Montana so I don't know the inner workings. Is JK leaving? Or just going to be a non-owner/manager? Is Kim stepping down?

    I am curious because there are rumblings here in Big Sky country as well.
    I believe the term used was "stepping down". Hence my query.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not bunion View Post
    Is JK leaving? Is Kim stepping down?
    Yes and yes.

    Stepping completely away is my understanding.

    As is Andrew K.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    what does "Limited access, no blackouts:" mean?
    Ikon Base pass

    5 days at Snoqualmie

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    Ah. all I could find was 'up to 5 days'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Yes and yes.

    Stepping completely away is my understanding.

    As is Andrew K.
    That was my next question.

    Who knows, maybe Andrew decided that running a ski area wasn't for him. It does involve a lot of commitment and the rewards as Warren Miller said were, "how to make a small fortune in the ski biz? Start with a large one."

    JK was always a fun guy to have in a room. Best wishes to him and the famdamily.

    Makes me really wonder whats going to happen about 40 miles down south from Bozeman. Like I wrote, there are some signs that change may be in the wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmokes View Post
    I suspect more investment towards building hotels and parking lot than trail maintenance...
    I don't think there is land available, especially for buildings, but even parking lots. Except for a few inholdings dating to patened mining claims, all the land is USFS operated under a special use permit.

    There were pie-in-the-sky plans for a major hotel at the Gold Hill inholding floated in the late 60's, and an even more ambitious plan for a series of hotels up high near Pickhandle Gap and Crown Point which were to be serviced by not one but two gondolas built by the hotel then leased to CM.

    None of that was financially viable, but since the 2004 Master Plan, the potential has been almost totally removed.

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    I'm just hoping for a bigger patio umbrella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    I'm just hoping for a bigger patio umbrella.
    You're a simple man, easily satisfied. Good qualities.

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    and maybe removal of that stupid, sun-blocking, useless snack bar on the patio.
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    Okay, now you're starting to get picky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    and maybe removal of that stupid, sun-blocking, useless snack bar on the patio.
    You're on to something...

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    The sale includes some land held by the Ks just to the south of Greenwater.

    Hopefully they''l build some decent employee accommodations down there and napalm the old units at the mountain freeing up some space for development..... but actually just avoiding the gulag like living conditions for staff might help with the whole customer service issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldMember View Post
    Okay, now you're starting to get picky...
    sorry. will talk to shrink about it soon.
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    New COO announced. Squirrel Stew now a possibility at lunchtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullStack View Post
    New COO announced. Squirrel Stew now a possibility at lunchtime.
    Banjo muzak in the soup line.

    So Snowshoe has a pretty good lift access bike park..... interesting.
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    I can't find any information on who is the financial support for Alterra Mountain company? Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloppy2nds View Post
    I can't find any information on who is the financial support for Alterra Mountain company? Any ideas?
    It's the descendant of KSL private equity and Henry Crown private investment group... so the who is probably not available easily if at all.
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    People know that xtal is good but they would never come here over park city, whistler or vail. No risk of destination resort but Iím sure alterra would love to get SEATTLE folks and all their money to other spots . So hereís my wish list ;
    1. Easier access to beer without lines after skiing
    2. East peak double for slack country access would be great
    3. Accommodation is in desperate need of updating
    4. Chain check at 410
    5. Outdoor bar and snack shack at Campbell lodge
    6. Remodeled base lodge
    7. Eliminate permit parking and add valet parking
    8. Reroute gondola to top of nway
    9. Change snack shack back to satay hut
    10. Add club at base for ski storage , showers , etc...

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    11. Better moguls


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