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  1. #51
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    That's a good description. The Moment's are definitely softer in the tips and tails and therefore better in powder and more playful. Still very stiff underfoot, though, so pretty stable.

  2. #52
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    Great description and super helpful. I’m leaning to the DW Tour. I’m 5’11 and 200lbs. Would you lean toward the lighter 184 or size up and go for the 190s. I currently ride a 188 old Super 7s.. so right in the middle.

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by KM14 View Post
    Great description and super helpful. I’m leaning to the DW Tour. I’m 5’11 and 200lbs. Would you lean toward the lighter 184 or size up and go for the 190s. I currently ride a 188 old Super 7s.. so right in the middle.
    how fat are you? im 6'4 210. i took one look at the 184 and was like 'no fucking way'


  4. #54
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    I’m pretty fit, but yes at your height/weight I’d size up.

  5. #55
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    I have some 177cm Ravens up for grabs if anyone is interested.

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    Click image for larger version. 

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    Tour-Lock Skin System looks cool.

  7. #57
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    I'm wondering if there will be any issues with snow / ice jamming up the hole in the ski and making it more difficult to remove the skin? I'm sure they've tested it out plenty, however.

  8. #58
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    Worst case, it looks like the hole is big enough to jam a pole tip through it to poke the snow/ice out. Since it's a clean through hole it's probably not too bad.

  9. #59
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    Here's Hoji talking about the skins

  10. #60
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    Pink Pomoca, never again for me. Great glide, laughable durability

  11. #61
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    That system is intriguing on the raven specifically given the no camber... save weight and dont give up any real traction. I ditched my hojis since the ravens do so well as a winter bc ski. Will prob wait a season though and see what people think.
    4frnt showing low quantities left in all but the 184 length. I'm guessing that just a partial production run so far, since alot of their skis are still pre-order. I'd think the 190 is pretty popular given the reverse and rocker... although they continue to skew their line up shorter (the dev being most recent this year that consolidated sizes and eliminated the 194)

  12. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by m104da View Post
    the dev being most recent this year that consolidated sizes and eliminated the 194)
    oh really? that's a bummer. that's a rad ski.

    I've seen hoji using that skin attachment for a few years it seems. I think h started by just modifying existing skis. seems easy enough to drill a hole and try it on my ravens.

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