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09-01-2018, 12:20 PM #51Registered User
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About the time everyone wants to stop n strip a layer the first guy goes 100" up the trail and searches the rest of the group until everyone has gone past, insted of leaving it at that everyone in turn will stop 100" up the trail to search everyone else in the group as they leap frog past so everyone gets to search on every beacon in the group
and then I know some guys who just ask who has the spare lighter ... man
I keep my beacon on its lanyard clipped in a pants pocket all the time and it gets turned on when I put the pants onLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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09-01-2018, 12:23 PM #52Registered User
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09-01-2018, 12:27 PM #53Registered User
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09-01-2018, 12:34 PM #55Registered User
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09-02-2018, 12:27 PM #57Registered User
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09-02-2018, 12:42 PM #58
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09-03-2018, 10:49 AM #60Registered User
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Maybe 6 years ago there were a couple of swede MD's (not stupid one assumes) up here who skied the 7000, they stop for lunch at the top where buddy takes off his harness and leaves the beacon up there on a rock. The 7000 face IS aviy terrain but nobody dies, they go back for it the next day, so I always think about that faux pas which is why I put the beacon on the lanyard in my pants pocket ... I am less likely to leave it somewhere post movement
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09-03-2018, 11:06 AM #61
“On at the car, off at the bar.”
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09-03-2018, 11:15 AM #62
I’ve seen the results of people vs avalanche, I’m sticking with my chest harness
“I have a responsibility to not be intimidated and bullied by low life losers who abuse what little power is granted to them as ski patrollers.”
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09-03-2018, 11:54 AM #63
Like foggy said, that's what was cool about the old F1; Jong Proof
I'm not really current but, why doesn't somebody go back to that concept?
No bagatall
I used to be anal battery conscious and turn it off during the day if I was idle or lapping a lift. Come to find out I was not hot traveling through a high risk zone more than once
I only know how to do the conga check - is there another wayI am not in your hurry
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09-03-2018, 11:57 AM #64
Mine goes in a beacon-specific thigh pocket on my soft-shells. I'm aware of why people use chest harnesses but for me the comfort difference is huge. As mentioned up-thread, good habits and checks are still the most important.
It sucks to suck.
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09-03-2018, 12:34 PM #65
If everyone’s beacon has a group check function, the group can form a line spaced 3 meters apart and the leader can ski down the line 1 meter away and check that they are sending, the someone can check the leader at the end of the line. That’s not a bad way to do it if everyone’s on board. There’s a description in this manual, and probably some where else.
https://static.mammut.com/file/Barry...art_3.0_EN.pdf
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09-03-2018, 04:12 PM #66
Me too. Chest or pocket (mostly chest, on sledders), dead is dead.
As for position, finding and probing is still vastly more time efficient compared to the shovelling. In deep recoveries, beacon placement might give a slight edge, but I would defer to data to see if that matters much on more shallow burials.
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09-03-2018, 04:52 PM #67Registered User
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It is interesting about how you ware your transceiver can affect its transmitted signal.
Most folks ware their transceiver in the harness that it comes with, on the side of their torso; on the left side in a lot of cases. Since a lot of transceivers have their transmitting antenna along the longest axis of the transceiver, that means a lot of transceivers have their antenna running parallel to ground/across your body, as your standing.
I forget the exact number, but most avalanche burial victims are buried either face up or face down. This means that when buried their transmitting antenna is positioned in a vertical orientation, because they have their transceiver on their side. Vertical transmitting orientations are the more difficult transceiver orientation to pinpoint on, especially if it is a deep burial.
Ortovox’s “Smart Transmitter Technology” (on the 3+ and S1+ models) means the transceiver changes to which antenna would be best to NOT have a vertical orientation signal. It’s a nice feature. I’m not sure if other manufactures have followed with the same idea.
I have always said that when practicing with your transceiver, do several vertical orientation searches. They can really confuse the searcher. There are several tricks to realizing your searching for a vertical transmitting transceiver."True love is much easier to find with a helicopter"
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09-14-2018, 11:33 PM #68Registered User
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RF Pants pocket (zipper closure) with about 2' added to the tether strap in case I have to crawl into a hole with a beacon held at arms length overhead. Tether attaches to a strap that runs through the pocket interior and inside the pants and loops through my pants belt for additional security (in case I get my pants torn off) .
Works for me
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09-15-2018, 12:02 PM #69
Put me in the thunder thighs camp. Putting a beacon in my pants is constricting.
If you find a harness uncomfortable try adjusting higher/tighter. I think a lot of people wear them low enough that they bounce around and get in the way when they bend over.
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09-15-2018, 03:18 PM #70
How many pants people also use a stretchy arcade belt?
Pretty easy for your beacon to end up at your ankles.
I chest harness. Just the way I was raised I guess.
I also ride it low, below the rib cage to avoid breaking a rib and also to not fight whatever is in my chest pocket.. . .
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09-17-2018, 06:03 PM #71
I have. Avalanche occurred while skinning (so no layers on top of the beacon), and the survivor was buried chest deep and unharmed. Chest harness was shredded and the beacon was hanging by a thread around his ski boot. Wouldn't have happened had the beacon been in a pants pocket.
End of the day- whatever works for you and don't forget to check.
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09-17-2018, 08:10 PM #72
Prince Albert! If the beacon gets torn off you may.... [insert conclusion here]
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09-18-2018, 09:47 AM #73Registered User
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09-18-2018, 09:49 AM #74
Of course. It was warm. Seems to me that beacons are outside all layers the majority of the time while ascending. It's one of many reasons I've converted to beacon in the pocket.
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09-18-2018, 10:16 AM #75
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