Phone Solicitation - Off the Charts

[k2skier112]

I get 3-4 robo calls a day on the land line at my shop. Most of the time I can tell by caller ID which ones they are. One came through with a Business name. I answer and ask him his name, what the business name is then proceed to tell him I'm reporting him to the DNC registry. Then he laughs and says I didn't give you the real name to my company, laughs says have a nice day then hangs up on me. True enough he gave me a name of a parent company and not who he worked for. Complete condescending asshole, sounded like a honky cracker too.

[SumJongGuy]

Spoofing a number should be a major crime in and of itself. No doubt if they're willing to lie about where they are calling from whatever it is they are offering/selling is also not an honest proposition..

[gravitylover]

'Halloo whoo ees eet? Nobody 'eere but us cheekens' Sometimes I'll hear a chuckle on the other end, sometimes I get a 'fuck you asshole' but most times it's just a quick hang up. The worst part is since I use my cell for business I feel like I need to answer most calls unless it's one that's so obviously a scam or spoofed number.

[Ted Striker]

I have an archer kind of voicemail which I find terribly amusing when family, friends, and business associates call me

I'm doing this new thing where it just rings. Drives people crazy.

[farmer]

In addition to the robocalls, I have a phone number that used to belong to Frank Doolittle. My guess is the worthless piece of shit didn't pay his phone bill so he lost the numbers, as he clearly couldn't pay the rest of his bills either. 6 years later and I still get a call every couple months from his creditors.

If anyone knows him, feel free to give him a swift kick in the balls for me.

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[SumJongGuy]

I got sort of laid off Friday, my contract ended and haven't been assigned a new gig so I'm in the job hunt again for the first time in 12 years. This takes the suckage to a whole new level because I really have to answer calls from unknown numbers now. Up til last week I was just ignoring them if I didn't recognize the number and letting them leave a voice if it was important.

[uglymoney]

I got sort of laid off Friday, my contract ended and haven't been assigned a new gig so I'm in the job hunt again for the first time in 12 years. This takes the suckage to a whole new level because I really have to answer calls from unknown numbers now. Up til last week I was just ignoring them if I didn't recognize the number and letting them leave a voice if it was important.

Naw. They will leave a message.

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[RShea]

In addition to the robocalls, I have a phone number that used to belong to Frank Doolittle. My guess is the worthless piece of shit didn't pay his phone bill so he lost the numbers, as he clearly couldn't pay the rest of his bills either. 6 years later and I still get a call every couple months from his creditors.

If anyone knows him, feel free to give him a swift kick in the balls for me.

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I get calls for a Melissa at work- she has never owned that number unless it was back in the mid 1960's .... The line has been in the business since 1969 and there has never been anyone named Melissa that was ever employed since the business was started and founded. So more major credit bureau mess up probably. The same Credit bureaus that think I am a RShea Jr. and send me offers probably...

[gregL]

About 10 a day on the land line, which my wife insists on keeping "so the relatives" can call. Not sure why they couldn't call our cells, but whatever.

1-2 a day on my cell, with "do not call" registration. Roughly half of those are in Mandarin; I think they have figured out I have a Chinese surname.

[iceman]

Maybe not, I've gotten a bunch of those in the past and my wife was just complaining about it yesterday and our names are definitely not chinese.

[SumJongGuy]

Naw. They will leave a message.

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Ya they can but that opens up the even more frustrating games of phone tag. Best to just answer it and hang up if it's a junk call.

[gravitylover]

^^The problem with answering some of the robocalls is that then the computer that's doing the dialing knows it's an active number and you will get that many more calls. A lot of times if I don't recognize a number and I have to answer it I don't say anything for the first few seconds, if a real person speaks I can then figure out if it's a garbage call or one that I need to deal with.

[Gepeto]

tl:dr
i answer every call - block 3/7 calls a day, mostly in the 40hr wrkweek - no call blocker database for me

same same as email spam... manage it. 400/800 blocked emails a week - 25000+ blocklibrary

I'm sure a few iT types lurking dwarf these numbers

builtin nuisance

[mall walker]

^^The problem with answering some of the robocalls is that then the computer that's doing the dialing knows it's an active number and you will get that many more calls. A lot of times if I don't recognize a number and I have to answer it I don't say anything for the first few seconds, if a real person speaks I can then figure out if it's a garbage call or one that I need to deal with.

yeah this. don’t answer, or let a robo app answer. you also don’t want your voice recorded saying “yes” or anything of the sort.

[gravitylover]

yeah this. don’t answer, or let a robo app answer. you also don’t want your voice recorded saying “yes” or anything of the sort.

Yup. A friend of mine had hundreds of crazy charges show up on his cell phone bill for months after someone answered his phone at a party. The only way he could stop it was to shut that number down and get a new one.

[Gepeto]

gravityL

a may try the blank stare into the open phone line - you've got somethin there

[thefortrees]

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2...ocall-invasion

Great 20 minute listen. The reporter successfully pisses off the robocaller by playing stupid and refusing to give up personal info.

Robocaller starts saying hilarious stuff like:

“All right. I want you to just take this MasterCard and shove it up into your candy ass and jump like a fucking frog because we do not work on lesbian cards.”

[SumJongGuy]

tl:dr
i answer every call - block 3/7 calls a day, mostly in the 40hr wrkweek - no call blocker database for me

same same as email spam... manage it. 400/800 blocked emails a week - 25000+ blocklibrary

I'm sure a few iT types lurking dwarf these numbers

builtin nuisance

Blocking the caller does nothing to stop attacks from spoofers who randomly generate a new same area code number to their caller ID for each new call list iteration. My wife had someone call her last week using HER OWN freakin' number. Blocking spoofed numbers only blocks potentially REAL people from being able to call you. The spoofers never call back again using the same spoofed number. They will spoof a number, go through their list then spoof a new number and go through the list again, rinse and repeat..

[TBS]

Use the Tom Mabe Repsonse to robocallers

[Gepeto]

Yea, I picked that up - up thread... I do get repeated number sequences but, never my own number. The robo shit is mostly voice activated bs

Having investment types, banks, hard money, and IRS frauds plus legitimate cold canvas calls like insurance, solar, who get past my initial sense of smell are a much bigger waste of my time. How many syllables will it take before I thank them for their call and hang up. Very rarely do I get someone who calls back to engage me - rare

comparatively - it's just a nuisance

but by all means, run with the idea of ending this nonsense. Some one's gotta carry the flag

[SumJongGuy]

but by all means, run with the idea of ending this nonsense. Some one's gotta carry the flag

What we really need is a way to block the calls based on the IP address the VOIP is coming from instead of the caller ID numbers. I can block IP addresses from web forums I moderate, why can't I block IP addresses from VOIP calls to my smart phone???

[SumJongGuy]

Use the Tom Mabe Repsonse to robocallers

Someone said they tell their 3 year old it is Santa Claus and hand them the phone..

[RShea]

What we really need is a way to block the calls based on the IP address the VOIP is coming from instead of the caller ID numbers. I can block IP addresses from web forums I moderate, why can't I block IP addresses from VOIP calls to my smart phone???

Because the SIP or other VoIP protocol they are using does not transmit the originating IP address. And also if you think it is easy to spoof the local caller id for a cellular or similar exchange, then spoofing or blocking the IP addresses can also be done by a good IT tech through things like VPN etc. much easier than the caller id transmission is done.

[SumJongGuy]

Because the SIP or other VoIP protocol they are using does not transmit the originating IP address. And also if you think it is easy to spoof the local caller id for a cellular or similar exchange, then spoofing or blocking the IP addresses can also be done by a good IT tech through things like VPN etc. much easier than the caller id transmission is done.

You can bet if they were transmitting threats against government officials or child porn the authorities would be able to find them and shut them down pretty quickly. Why not require all ISPs to also transmit IP address info encrypted in all VOIP communications? Heck just snapping a cell phone pic comes with all kinds of additional info encrypted in the files now.

[mall walker]

sadly at a technical level both phone and email are woefully insecure with respect to sender authenticity verification. much like using a 9digit number as a both unique id and password, we will sooner-than-later need to replace or fix these protocols. but seriously as fun as it is to mock/insult/scream at the robo callers (i have done all three), they’ll just keep calling if you answer. get a call blocker, don’t pick up. report the numbers/times/any voicemail info if you are bored. fcc has/had some online complaint form at some point, too lazy to look it up atm but it’s maybe worth doing