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    Is flying a plane that hard?

    "'Incredible maneuvers' by airline ground agent who stole plane baffles employer. His only training appears to be 'video games.'"



    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/13/alas...len-plane.html

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    Little late to the party, Charlie.

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=321191

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW_SKIER View Post
    First off, I actually have a life outside of ggr.

    Next question, answer the fucking question.

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    You can’t get hurt in the air.

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    In decent conditions, in the most general terms: flying a plane is surprisingly very easy (including taking off).

    Landing is the main tricky part. As is: navigation, including complying with airspaces, dealing with sudden bad weather (if VFR - otherwise: learning to deal with navaids and IFR techniques), etc. All in the details.

    Significant time with a quality flight simulator would indeed give you a big head start, including with aerobatics. Trying not to rip the wings off of a given plane (and avoiding passing out/puking/etc) via random aerobatics would take a a bunch of learning/experience/awareness, for a given plane, that no sim could perfect. Learning curve is significantly reduced if you're suicidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques Sheer-Rocko View Post
    You can’t get hurt in the air.
    Not even close to true

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles martel View Post
    First off, I actually have a life outside of ggr.
    you're like a thousand year old insane grandpa, shut the fuck up lol

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    He was flying VFR, over an area he was mostly familiar with, with a cleared airspace, and had little apparent desire to land in one piece. Given those conditions, sure it’s pretty easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    He was flying VFR, over an area he was mostly familiar with, with a cleared airspace, and had little apparent desire to land in one piece. Given those conditions, sure it’s pretty easy.
    More responsibility here, but they have a handle on it:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...v=5wjoF8-Oaew#


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    It's kinda like driving...but: in the air.

    And I'm certain you've seen how badly people screw that up.
    It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.

    I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.

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    Flying a plane isn't that hard. Flying a plane without crashing during takeoff, landing, navigation through IMC, avoiding CFIT, is difficult, and unless you are solo, keeping your passengers safe is a priority. So I'd say the fact that this guy took off is probably the most amazing part, followed by the fact he did a loop or something without crashing (I've heard but can't find good video). Taking a plane for a joyride without intention of landing and just seeing how far you can make it without crashing is totally different than transporting hundreds of passengers safely.

    Here's video of experienced pilot doing loops and rolls in a 707 just for fun...


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    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    and unless you are solo...
    Ummm, I hate to break it to you, but Han Solo is a fictional character. He didn't fly traditional terrestrial aircraft, anyway.

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    As already mentioned, flying is the easy part - it’s landing that’s hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    Flying a plane isn't that hard. Flying a plane without crashing during takeoff, landing, navigation ... is difficult
    This. Many many many years ago I worked for Boeing, and once got the opportunity to "fly" a 737 in one of their fancy multi-million dollar flight simulators. The only one who flew it "easily" was the guy with the pilot's license, the rest of us crashed a few times, had wicked hard landings and takeoffs, etc. And that was with some staff coaching in the cockpit with us (as well as a heckling peanut gallery of coworkers standing behind us).
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    But were you an expert gamer??
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    It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.

    I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.

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    Flying a Cessna 152 May not be, but a twin turbo prop like this is far more complex. You can ruin the engines with a simple bad start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    As already mentioned, flying is the easy part - it’s landing that’s hard.
    yep....


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    Hi Charles, Flying isn’t dangerous, crashing is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    yep....

    That was awesome, simply amazing. One time in AK I was in a Twin Otter that landed like that on a dirt strip. The pilots were totally unfazed. But a Twin Otter is a rather different matter than an A380.

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    I was on a 777 that landed like that in Houston. Went to the nearest bar and ordered a shot. Tanner Hall happened to be sitting right next to me. Looked like a homeless meth head.


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    So was this plane on a conveyor belt ?

    I thin ted striker is a pilot where is buddy whe you need him ?

    proffesional skiers often look pretty sketchy without the ski gear,A sketchy looking possibly homeless dude is waving at me across main st and I was wondering WFT , then i realize he is that proskier I met, he is waving at me cuz he doesnt know anyone else in town so i better go over and say hey
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    Tanner is an especially sketchy looking dude. Ran into him again, after said encounter at Houston, at top golf in slc. Young skier kids who I was hitting balls with, and grew up idolizing him couldn’t believe how bad he looked. I actually like tanner, have skied with him few times and he’s a good guy and a true skier at heart. I think history of injuries led him down a bad road of addiction. But that landing in Houston had me craving every drug ever made, so I can understand


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