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  1. #101
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    Just got another email...
    Upon further review of your objection to the Bitterroot Travel Plan concerning mountain biking within the Sapphire and Blue Joint Wilderness Study Areas, I have decided to accept your objection for further review and rescind my previous letter signed September 28, 2018, which set aside your objection.
    I have found your objection meets the requirements of 36 CFR 218.8 and 218.9, commonly known as the objection process. Therefore, your objection will be considered and I will provide a written response to your objection and address the issues you have raised, as required by the objection process at 36 CFR 218 subparts A and B.

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    Good! I was afraid they'd be hyper technical which is why i felt forced to write legal rather than English.

    Singletracks article out. PB article submitted. Fwiw

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    He must have seen the latest TR and realized you're riding an Ibis now and not the Turner

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    Got around to videos



    Portions of this may be lost


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    Great Lucky dog footage.

  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by panchosdad View Post
    Great Lucky dog footage.
    That is one well mannered and trail-wise badass hound.

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    Line Creek Plateau



    Big Snowy Mountains


  8. #108
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    Could use some proofreading here as I'm trying to write these MT articles. They will go on Singletracks. Poke holes, typos etc

    http://www.leelau.net/2018/montana20...entlake180810/

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Could use some proofreading here as I'm trying to write these MT articles. They will go on Singletracks. Poke holes, typos etc

    http://www.leelau.net/2018/montana20...entlake180810/
    Send them to me as Word docs.

    Sent from my HTC6535LRA using TGR Forums mobile app

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    Final part http://www.leelau.net/2018/montana2018/line180816/

    Thanks for all the comments so far. I'm going to wrap this up. Getting diminished returns writing reading and re-reading this now

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    There is now a webform for comments on the Bitterroot travel plan objections:
    https://sites.google.com/site/bitter...8J4e2Df_F2ENLU

    Do before 11/19, thanks!

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    Heard earlier there have been over 400 comments sent through the portal linked above, which has now been shared to all the CA chapters as well.

    And saw it in an email from Bike Mag this afternoon too.

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    Saw this in the Helena paper yesterday about some new trails in the northern Elkhorns. Bikes allowed.

    https://helenair.com/lifestyles/recr...b4ca14cbe.html

    ETA: just saw that somebody started a thread about this..

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    https://www.singletracks.com/blog/mt...lley-hamilton/

    Appears some feathers are ruffled per comment section. Waiting for reception on parts 2 and 3

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    As a water quality professional, it was useful to read that bull trout require untouched roadless areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive_MT View Post
    As a water quality professional, it was useful to read that bull trout require untouched roadless areas.
    Eminently

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    Great part 1 and it's always good to ruffle some feathers and I really enjoyed the story. Looking forward to parts 2 and 3.

    My only confusion is that as I understood it the trails were technically never opened back up. I didn't go through the whole docket but from what I did read, Judge Christensen never said the trails would be open until the FS completes their new comment period. It was something that the local groups just assumed and publicized. Then because of that the Wilderness groups went back and got Christensen to write an order clarifying that the lack of comment was harmless error and the trails wouldn't be re-opened. Am I way off here? Or was it just a very mountain-biker-focused perspective in telling the story?
    It sucks to suck.

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    Dolphinski

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/bitte...d=FSEPRD586694

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/bitte...d=FSEPRD591183

    First is FS ruling complying with court order to open bike trails pending the FS putting a information process in place . From July 2018

    Second is FS ruling to close bike trails complying with court decision following wilderness proponents seeking court clarification. From Aug 2018

    Ive got the court decisions. Will load them on web and give a link : unles you already downloaded from pacer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    Dolphinski

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/bitte...d=FSEPRD586694

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/bitte...d=FSEPRD591183

    First is FS ruling complying with court order to open bike trails pending the FS putting a information process in place . From July 2018

    Second is FS ruling to close bike trails complying with court decision following wilderness proponents seeking court clarification. From Aug 2018

    Ive got the court decisions. Will load them on web and give a link : unles you already downloaded from pacer?
    Lee, thanks for the clarification. I've read the June 29th decision and posted it somewhere on here (I think another Bitterroot thread). I hadn't seen any further orders or the FS postings. It seems Christensen wasn't completely clear originally. Kind of screwed up of the Defendant-Intervenors to do that when Plaintiffs and Defendants were in agreement already.
    It sucks to suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinSki View Post
    Lee, thanks for the clarification. I've read the June 29th decision and posted it somewhere on here (I think another Bitterroot thread). I hadn't seen any further orders or the FS postings. It seems Christensen wasn't completely clear originally. Kind of screwed up of the Defendant-Intervenors to do that when Plaintiffs and Defendants were in agreement already.
    According to BBC the defendents/intervenors were really eager to get their get-off-my-lawn message to bikes.

    The July 2018 decision basically said that the WSAs would return to status quo ante which meant open to bikes. The August 2018 clarification definitely reversed that. Just realized I don't have that and am trying to get a copy

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeLau View Post
    The August 2018 clarification definitely reversed that. Just realized I don't have that and am trying to get a copy
    I can grab that off Pacer this evening and DM it to you.
    It sucks to suck.

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    Slightly OT (but not really)...can anyone recommend some great trails like these being discussed halfway between Jackson and Glacier? Planning a road trip next summer, and want to break up the drive, hopefully with a great trail near a great campsite...yeah, I want it all!
    StokePimpin' ain't easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinSki View Post
    I can grab that off Pacer this evening and DM it to you.
    Got them. Here are the clarifications. The July 2018 decision actually left it ambiguous which the judge then clarified.

    http://www.leelau.net/2018/montana20...uly%202018.pdf

    http://www.leelau.net/2018/montana20...ust%202018.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Slightly OT (but not really)...can anyone recommend some great trails like these being discussed halfway between Jackson and Glacier? Planning a road trip next summer, and want to break up the drive, hopefully with a great trail near a great campsite...yeah, I want it all!
    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...66-SW-MT-rides

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