2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

**3PinGrin** · 10-24-2019, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by YaBoyBlue

Not sure how the Tele will translate, but I found my stock 187 MVPs to ski very short *in the front* (that 99cm camber length!) so I bumped back to -1cm mount point and was happy: was good enough for icy opening hour, and still killed anything soft off piste.

As a good comparison for you, I found the 187 MVP front engagement point to be closer to boot when compared to my 188 Quixote, and so the MVP felt much more pivoty and loose in the front then the Q. If you nerd out a bit (duh...) the outside of the MVP and Q are the same for taper point dimensions, so there was a bit of family resemblance when I jumped up to the Q.

Good intel, thanks!

**galibier_numero_un** · 10-25-2019, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Muggydude

https://www.praxisskis.com/experimental-skis/

Sounds pretty cool. Would love to see a kusala-renegade type ski come out of this

Damn! I'm getting whiplash with my cash flow forecast for gear expenditures. NTTAWWT.

A Q without asym (24-25 radius) could be an awesome ski (because you can't have too many skis in the 11x range).

Maybe I'm just talking about an Rx. Paging Doctor Alpy.

... Thom

**eskido** · 10-25-2019, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un

Maybe I'm just talking about an Rx.

Sounds like it to me, obviously not by the actual numbers but, gpo on the outside, rx on the inside... I’d guess it skis a lot more like the rx than gpo though cause it damn sure don’t ski like my gpos

**skibrd** · 10-25-2019, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un

Damn! I'm getting whiplash with my cash flow forecast for gear expenditures. NTTAWWT.

A Q without asym (24-25 radius) could be an awesome ski (because you can't have too many skis in the 11x range).

Maybe I'm just talking about an Rx. Paging Doctor Alpy.

... Thom

A keep the asymmetrical nature of the Q have it with no camber?

That would be interesting.

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**sruffian** · 10-25-2019, 02:10 PM

I am in for a kusala in a tour layup. When I saw the experimental ski page, I thought about a fully rockered tour layup ski. Subtle rocker line. Taper point somewhere between the renegade and protest and a long ass radius

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**Falcon3** · 10-25-2019, 02:20 PM

Nice sale going on at Praxis. Check it out

**sruffian** · 10-25-2019, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un

Damn! I'm getting whiplash with my cash flow forecast for gear expenditures. NTTAWWT.

A Q without asym (24-25 radius) could be an awesome ski (because you can't have too many skis in the 11x range).

Maybe I'm just talking about an Rx. Paging Doctor Alpy.

... Thom

Rocker lines are way different than an Rx. If you are talking about mirroring the inside edge and keeping the same rocker profile, the dimensions are remarkably similar to a bibby

**mr_pretzel** · 10-25-2019, 05:51 PM

So fucking pissed i didnt get a custom RX while I could.

Im in for the kusala if its 191.

**galibier_numero_un** · 10-25-2019, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by sruffian

Rocker lines are way different than an Rx. If you are talking about mirroring the inside edge and keeping the same rocker profile, the dimensions are remarkably similar to a bibby

Yes to mirroring the inside/long edge. Geek that I am, I'll compare the two. Thanks.

... Thom

**detrusor** · 10-25-2019, 10:27 PM

A number of peeps have been down with a kusala reboot. I say we make it happen.

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**Muggydude** · 10-26-2019, 12:39 AM

My proposal for a 1st TGR Praxis Experimental Flat/Reverse Camber, Standard Sidecut Ski:
Call it ‘The TGR Special’ perhaps?

190cm length
Mount point: -7

142mm tip
124mm waist
129mm Tail
30m Turn radius

Flat underfoot
Gradual rocker to 9.5 height at tip, 3.5cm at tail
Front Rocker Height: 2.6cm
Tail Rocker Height: 1.5cm
Front rocker length: 47cm
Rear Rocker length: 40cm

Stiff 4.5 Flex underfoot, progresses to 4 at tails, 3.5 at tips

Enduro Layup + Veneer
Or
Enduro Layup + Carbon

Would love to see Enduro/Carbon/Veneer but starts to get expensive. I love how my Enduro/Veneer Skis handle. I can see this design benefiting from the pop of carbon though.

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**tuco** · 10-26-2019, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by detrusor

A number of peeps have been down with a kusala reboot. I say we make it happen.

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YEP

**grinch** · 10-26-2019, 06:17 AM

There proba ly wouldnt be shorter lengths but what are/where the numbers on a kusala? Anyone with rocker profile pics?

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**PlayItLeo** · 10-26-2019, 06:17 AM

A praxis built EHP would be rad.

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**tuco** · 10-26-2019, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by grinch

There proba ly wouldnt be shorter lengths but what are/where the numbers on a kusala? Anyone with rocker profile pics?

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Not sure on dims. I believe 124 uf. 186 only

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**grinch** · 10-26-2019, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by tuco

Not sure on dims. I believe 124 uf. 186 only

Edit: wtf on fkn sideways pics yo?

Thanks , sideways is ok. 124 uf would be good and i think theyre pintailish , without knowing the tip and tail. From the pic it looks like the tail has a long rocker, longer than thd tip. I guess i was hoping itd be like a bit wider bg(pintailish with wider splay and rocker). 181-183 probably wouldnt be in the cards anyway. Still be fun to watch you guys bring them to fruition

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**whyturn** · 10-26-2019, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by grinch

Thanks , sideways is ok. 124 uf would be good and i think theyre pintailish , without knowing the tip and tail. From the pic it looks like the tail has a long rocker, longer than thd tip. I guess i was hoping itd be like a bit wider bg(pintailish with wider splay and rocker). 181-183 probably wouldnt be in the cards anyway. Still be fun to watch you guys bring them to fruition

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It’s closer to a renegade but has more straight section in middle which creates larger sweet spot

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**grinch** · 10-26-2019, 09:57 AM

Ahh i see. Good idea. I was guessing itd be a wider lhasa

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sf · 10-26-2019, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by PlayItLeo

A praxis built EHP would be rad.

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Yes. 190cm.....same flex and sidecut, but with a slightly more traditional mount point

**Self Jupiter** · 10-26-2019, 10:30 AM

A 190 length EHP in the 186 shape would be interesting

**sruffian** · 10-26-2019, 03:34 PM

Sounds like we just need to buy six of one, half a dozen of the other

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**lucknau** · 10-26-2019, 04:31 PM

I don't have a complete list of specs, but for the 186 Kusala,

straight pull: 185cm
sidecut: 133.2-124-129.4 [mm]
radius: 30m
curb weight: 2150g

Can get more info, take more photos, etc. Let me know.

If we're gonna do a knockoff, we should get splat's blessing first, or ask him to run the show.

**Muggydude** · 10-26-2019, 04:56 PM

I’d personally like to see a fatter tip, longer, maybe semi pintailish type ski with flat camber/gradual rocker + long turn radius. Not too much of a point (to me) if dimensions are too similar to current protest and wootest. Though I’m sure whatever it’d be or a Kusala collab would be dope

**nickel** · 10-26-2019, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Muggydude

I’d personally like to see a fatter tip, longer, maybe semi pintailish type ski with flat camber/gradual rocker + long turn radius. Not too much of a point (to me) if dimensions are too similar to current protest and wootest. Though I’m sure whatever it’d be or a Kusala collab would be dope

I'd be in for this. my big pintails are almost ten years old and it's a shape i never want to be without. 150-117-123 , 45cm nose rocker with 7cm rise, shark nose. Trad camber throughout the rest with a true flat tail. When my current ones give up the ghost I'm going to need this in my life again immediately and no one is making anything like it anymore.

**Muggydude** · 10-26-2019, 05:40 PM

Sounds like the Lhasa pow fat (;

I’d definitely want the flat camber almost full rocker profile though. What makes a ski like this nimble

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