2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

[m2711c]

For Japan, I think you’d be happy with either the protest or the Rx. The Rx is a lot more versatile than the protest. If I was only to bring one ski, I would bring the Rx. If I was gonna bring two skis, I would go with the protest and the MVP. All three of them tour just fine.

[grinch]

I was going to say enduro core rx would be my choice. New rx looks $$$$. Do want!! Enduro is a nice weight to do it all. Still in love with my assym bg's and miss having my gpo thats still out west but new rx looks like perfection

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[N1CK.]

I bought a stock enduro 184cm RX Ive taken it on every trip since I got it. If I was forced to have only one ski for CO this would definitely be a contender.

[Muggydude]

It would be a custom build, but don’t be afraid of the UL core inbounds if you get veneer.

I really really like my UL/Carbon/Veneer Kusala Collab skis in their 5 flex as a 50/50 inbounds/touring powder ski.

UL/Carbon/Veneer RX would be money in Japan IMO.

I’m bringing my kusalas and billygoat 108 tours next season to Japan, but with my hybrid lindahl attack/touring frankenbindings

[SchralphMacchio]

Didn’t Tabke podium in Hakuba with a UL +10mm Flex 3 MVP with custom rocker, that ended up becoming the FRS?

Considering that Keith basically invented the ProTest for him, and he chose to go with a +10 MVP over a -10 Protest or a Q for that comp … it seems like a UL veneer custom FRS would be at least as high on the list as a -10 Protest for a Japan mixed resort and touring ski.

I don’t have any time on the RX but it always struck me as more of a classic “traditional big mountain charging” shape compared to the GPO or FRS. Seeing that your DD is a DW104 with -6 mount and tons of rocker, I’d start by looking at that FRS or Jedi Mind Sticks. But that’s based on “on paper” specs and not any real world experience with those specific models.

[hoarhey]

I saw the praxis custom ski page mention you can modify width, has anyone gone for a slightly skinnier protest, like in the 118-122 waist range?

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...Thread/page106


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[eskido]

This was from David Golay off the Blister site…

Ski #4: Praxis Protest Custom, 187 cm + Moment Voyager XVI

4-Ski Quivers: Reviewers’ Selections (22/23)
Praxis Protest
I’ve been a fan of the stock Praxis Protest as a dedicated pow ski for a long time now, but I spent a lot of last season on a pair of 187 cm Protests built with their UL touring core and in a -1 cm width (so 118 mm underfoot) as my soft-snow touring ski, and they were a winner. The Protest shape works very, very well for me when it comes to making just about any turn shape in untracked snow, from long slarves to quick slashes, and making the ski a bit narrower hasn’t changed that.

I’ve also toured a bunch on a 192 cm version of the full-width Protest (128 mm underfoot) and while the smaller version (predictably) doesn’t float quite as well, it’s still very good, while feeling a lot more versatile when conditions aren’t as super deep. The narrower width is easier on my knees when sidehilling on a firmer skin track, the lighter weight is of course welcome on the uphill, and despite the loss of weight and size, they’re still extremely good in weird breakable crust, too.

[Skiwald]

I’ve got a pair of barely used one eighty two cm jedi mind sticks bought last year for sale in gear swap. Shoot me a message if interested.


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[Poorhouse]

The Praxis customs sale is open.Custom price discounted from $1600 to $900.00.

[SchralphMacchio]

Anyone here ever tried stock 172 glass layup Yetis? Dschane?

I’ve got an option to pick some up but I’m worried they are too short for me. I’m on (13 year old) 180 Flex 2 BCs that are absolutely perfect in soft snow for my 140 lbs. The stock Yeti flex is 3, and these are the glass layup, I assume (edit) that these are MAP/C+ (extra carbon), original layup of the Yeti before it went to UL/C. 172 Yeti has 8cm less effective edge but 2cm more camber contact than 180 BC …

I feel between sizes on this model at stock flex, as the Flex 3 at 182 would be a bit more than ideal … 2.5 at that length would be a lot better for me. It all depends on the suspension and progression as well, since I’m also on 182 ON3P Woodsmans …

[meter-man]

^^^^172 stock Praxis Yeti w Dynafit Speed Turns (shimmed toe for flatter ramp) plus BD MoMix skins. $500+ship. Located in Truckee.https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...fits-amp-Skins

[dschane]

Anyone here ever tried stock 172 glass layup Yetis? Dschane? I’ve got an option to pick some up but I’m worried they are too short for me. I’m on (13 year old) 180 Flex 2 BCs that are absolutely perfect in soft snow for my 140 lbs. The stock Yeti flex is 3, and these are the glass layup, I assume (edit) that these are MAP/C+ (extra carbon), original layup of the Yeti before it went to UL/C. 172 Yeti has 8cm less effective edge but 2cm more camber contact than 180 BC … I feel between sizes on this model at stock flex, as the Flex 3 at 182 would be a bit more than ideal … 2.5 at that length would be a lot better for me. It all depends on the suspension and progression as well, since I’m also on 182 ON3P Woodsmans …

I tried the 182 original Yeti layup. So long ago and not that many runs that I am not sure I would have much to offer. But, more generally, for springtime skiing, I like to go a bit shorter to save weight on the climb and, IMHO, when skiing corn (or shit crust that hasnt corned up yet), length doesnt seem as important to me. Yes, there is a loss in stability, but my lungs and thighs appreciate the weight savings. My current Praxis kit: I have the 180 BC in the enduro + carbon at 3 flex and the Exp in 173 cm in enduro + carbon at 4 flex. I love the BCs and use them from the start to about now. I have much less time on the Exp.s and generally use them when much the day involves having them on my back. And I have the 9Ds for inbound carving days.

[DaveE]

I don't suppose there will be another Kusala build anytime soon? I'm kicking myself for not paying extra for the UL ones... thinking of getting UL Protests for a more touring oriented ski with about the same float in deep snow. Curious if anyone under 200lbs has gone 5 flex on protests? I like the way Kusalas cut through mank with no deflection but from what i've read stiff flex makes more sense with full reverse camber where the ski is basically already bent into a carve without a lot of force through the boots.

[dschane]

Thanks for posting about the custom sale. The landing page is silent about it, so you have to click on "custom" sale to get there.

[SchralphMacchio]

Anyone ever asked Keith where the core materials, bases, edges, glass sheets, carbon weave, epoxy comes from? I’m guessing we won’t be seeing any Liberation Day sales anywhere.

[hoarhey]

Just spoke with Keith about a custom slugger order with ULcore avd veneer to be mounted with some atk raiders of some sort

I asked him about tariffs and materials

He sources everything domestically except the edge stock so he pretty well positioned


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