Originally Posted by
Muggydude
I’ve owned:
GPOs Enduro/Nylon. Good all around ski, found on ice, harder chop, deflected more than I’d like and were Harsher than I liked.
Enduro/Nylon Concepts: Vibed more with this layup on this ski vs GPO, but I never got it out in very icy conditions, always soft snow. Great PNW ski.
BCs Enduro/Carbon/Veneer: did not like them as an all mountain resort ski. Found the carbon made them to reactive and harsh in hardpack and icy conditions. My brother (who owns the skis) loves them though. He also weighs 40lbs less than me.
Heavy/Veneer Piste Jibs: Perfect layup. Powerful, responsive, damp, good energy. Doesn’t get deflected easily and isn’t heavy.
Heavy/Carbon/Veneer Qs: Also a Perfect layup for this ski. Super damp, doesn’t get deflected, but veneer and Carbon make it energetic. Not very heavy comparatively to other skis like BG (lighter than BG).
Enduro/Veneer Praxis Lhasa Fats: love love this ski. Pulled them out more than the protests or Kartel 116s I had during Tahoe’s monster season last year. Light, surfy, energetic, damp. Shape helps it cut through chop. Occasionally deflected, if I wanted to use this day or two after the storm I’d think heavy/Carbon/veneer would be better.
Enduro/Carbon/Nylon Protests. Great in powder, liked the Carbon there a lot more than BCs. Did not like them at all on bumpy run outs, kinda painful.
Enduro/Veneer Protests. Love these, perfect layup for the ski in resort. Damper and less harsh on groomers. Still plenty of energy in powder.
Enduro/Nylon Powderboards: Great resort layup for this ski. Not meant for variable or icy conditions. Carbon and veneer would probably be dope on the ski too.
Keith definitely prefers lighter skis it seems, overall. Same with Tabke considering he used a UL ski for comp. I’d say that’s partially why he doesn’t recommend heavy core in skis over 110mm waist.
IMO, for a lot of guys who like to charge and enjoy ON3Ps beefy, damp, heavy layup - you’d also really like the praxis heavy core in wider skis. A Heavy/Veneer/Carbon praxis ski is a little lighter and less damp still than an ON3P standard layup ski.
Personally, my core choices would be:
All Mountain/Hard Snow Resort: Heavy/Veneer or Heavy/Nylon
All Mountain, powder, variable and day after storm oriented Resort Ski (i.e Q, GPO, MVP, FRS): Heavy/Carbon/Veneer
Resort Powder Ski, day of storm (Q, Lhasa, Definitely Protest and Powderboard): Enduro/Veneer
I don’t tour but if I did, I’d probably be on Enduro/Carbon/Veneer MVPs or Concepts
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