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04-10-2020, 02:13 AM #1276
That's an interesting comment. Everyone knows that the Q was close but no cigar for me. Last year I was musing about a symmetrical Q - same edge on both sides (the long edge).
At the time, someone said I was after a Moment Wildcat.
So, is the "correct" answer that a symmetrical version of the Q is an Rx?
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04-10-2020, 08:10 AM #1277Banned
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04-10-2020, 08:35 AM #1278
Anyone know what the stock flex is on a Quixote? 3? 4? I looked around the praxis website but couldn’t find it.
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04-10-2020, 08:40 AM #1279
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04-10-2020, 08:51 AM #1280
Makes sense. Thanks.
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04-10-2020, 08:59 AM #1281
An oxymoron indeed, but since asym. skis don't work for me on 2D snow, I was curious.
The Q did a lot of things right, but was unsettling in whiteout conditions (dust over crust). Having crap balance when skiing by braile, I'd occasionally lose the sweet spot, and would be waiting for a Tabke moment. My Down CD114s and my GPOs never never caused me to lose confidence like this.
I can visualize a "sym-Q" as being a being a sweet build version of my Down CD 114s (the ski that made it easy for me to sell my Qs). [edit]Or ... as I was musing in the Q thread ... a Fat-Q (+10) could have it's moments. I loved the Q in deep snow.[/edit]
Or ... is it the Rx I've been after all these years?
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04-10-2020, 10:48 PM #1282Registered User
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For no reason at all besides for conversations sake, what Praxis ski compares best with a Kartel 116 type ski? Thinking jibby fat ski
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04-10-2020, 10:53 PM #1283King potato
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04-11-2020, 04:09 PM #1284Registered User
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Done did it
194 FRD, 4+ flex, heavy+veneer
Fooking stoked for these
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04-11-2020, 04:29 PM #1285Registered User
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04-11-2020, 07:23 PM #1286
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04-11-2020, 07:54 PM #1287
Stoked for you! I had big plans for a H+C/V 193 mvp this year but recent events have forced prioritization despite my attempts at rationalizing
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04-11-2020, 09:20 PM #1288Registered User
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04-11-2020, 11:10 PM #1289
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04-13-2020, 09:14 AM #1290Registered User
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04-13-2020, 09:18 AM #1291
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04-13-2020, 09:26 AM #1292Registered User
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185 9D8 with Heavy Hitter 4-flex arriving in late summer. Went with Abstract graphics. What a great guy Keith is to work with!
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04-13-2020, 10:07 AM #1293
Currently somewhat debating whether I want to go Heavy/Carbon/nylon or enduro/veneer for FRS skis. I love veneer, but kinda want the heavy core. Ideally I’d have both, but extra $150 has me shying away
Anyone have time on heavy/nylon or heavy/Carbon/nylon layup? And can compare to heavy/Carbon/veneer, or enduro/veneer?
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04-13-2020, 10:34 AM #1294
I have a heavy core/carbon/nylon build in my SKIs. No experience with any other heavy core combo.
Personally I love it. I'm not hyper sensitive to builds like some of you are. It's plenty damp, the weight lends to stability, and still responsive, which might be more do to the SKI having a good amount of camber. I opted against veneer last year to save money, but wish I'd have splurged.
I also currently own enduro/veneer (protests) and MAP/carbon/veneer (GPO). Protests #4 are rockets and incredibly stable, if from nothing more than the mass. GPO could be my favorite ski, but have been bounced a bit in bad/crud/shit conditions. In anything moderately soft they rule.
I'd love to build a pair of heavy/carbon/veneer GPO or Qs.
If anyone wants a mid-fat, more traditional ski with camber, nice low rise tip they should look at that SKI. It feels bigger in soft snow, smaller in firm conditions.
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04-13-2020, 01:38 PM #1295
I've got Heavy/Nylon Q's and they are steam rollers in sierra cement, great for tracked resort days. They are heavy, and with the fall line tenancies of the Q I have to be on it (show no weakness!) to have a good day. I loved my 110 uf MVP except the light weight and resulting deflection when the snow started setting up firm, those skis had a nice loose feel in 3D snow that could be strong on edge when needed. I suspect a +10 MVP (now known as FRS) would be equally loose, float better, and gain *some weight, the question is how much? I'd be afraid the heavy core might be too much, but then adding carbon and veneer might offset?If I were to do the Q's again (or a FRS) I'd probably look to the enduro core and opt for veneer for added damping, I suspect the weights would become more managable while the ride quality would become more lively.
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04-13-2020, 03:53 PM #1296
Does anyone recall ever reading about someone getting veneer and regretting it?
I don't mean expressing a natural curiousity about how much it contributed to the build.
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04-13-2020, 05:34 PM #1297Banned
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I recall some complaints about the bamboo veneer when it was offered, because it chipped/gouged easily, even when beveled, but other than that, no I haven't.
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04-13-2020, 05:50 PM #1298Registered User
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04-14-2020, 06:25 PM #1299Registered User
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04-14-2020, 08:45 PM #1300
FYI my experience is with the coloring on veneers is really positive. Blues and reds come out really well and blacks are really rich. The purple on these skis are also very deep. The seafoam type green really plays with the birdseye maple beautifully as well. Keith makes some amazing skis.
Also, any of you been on the EXPs? I'm 6'2" 225 and I cant seem to find a mid 80s touring ski that is above 180 cm except EXPs. How did everyone find the flex? I would assume a 3 would be perfect for those skis.
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