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  1. #551
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    I’m a Wasatch skier and have 9D8’s. However, they are a low tide no new snow ski. Great on the groomed, bumps etc.

    If you are here when there is new snow you will be seriously indergunned.



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  2. #552
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    Quote Originally Posted by detrusor View Post
    I’m a Wasatch skier and have 9D8’s. However, they are a low tide no new snow ski. Great on the groomed, bumps etc.

    If you are here when there is new snow you will be seriously indergunned.



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    Can you elaborate a bit more?

  3. #553
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    people on the west coast consider anything under 100 underfoot to be a "no new snow" ski. it might be what you consider fat coming from the east coast but it's barely all mountain around here. if you get a foot or more while in Utah it would be nice to have something over 110.

  4. #554
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    I have the 9D8s and am a big fan. Very maneuverable and predictable skis. I also have wider skis, which, given our last 5 winters and parenthood sprinkled on top, have gotten less use.

  5. #555
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    9D8s are a great ski, though AM-ish for the Rockies.
    I'm a huge fan of the Freeride for a slightly floatier yet still carvey ski.

  6. #556
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma_rippin View Post
    thrilled to have found this forum! I have been chatting with Keith and am strongly considering a pair of 9D8’s and looking for a little help...

    I currently ski a pair of Liberty V82's. I love them but looking to add something wider to my quiver. I am 95% front side, trail skier and primarily east coast. I also have a 7 & 5 year old so I need a ski that I can control at slow speeds when I do a few runs a day with them after ski school. We are headed to Utah for 10 days this winter to do Park City, Deer Valley and Alta. So I am looking for something wider underfoot than my Liberty that still have good carving control and low speed capability. I will be keeping my Liberty's and adding these so they don't need to replace, but compliment. I would still like to be able to use them in East though. The 9D8 seems to fit the bill well but would love some input.

    Other skis I have considered:
    ON3P Woodsman 96
    J Master Blaster
    Black Crow Camox
    Moment PB&J
    Nordica Enforcer 100
    What everyone is trying to say is out west, most people’s every day ski is 98-110 underfoot, our version of your Liberty V82s. I personally have a pair of GS skis (65ish under foot) and a pair of Brahmas, but they get used 1 and 8 days a year.

    Will the 9D8 and the other skis you listed work for what you appear to be looking for, yeah, but most people on here would recommend something closer to 105-110 under foot as a second ski to compliment a 82mm ski. Something like the Cochise, Enforcer 110, BC Corvus, Backland 107 (or is it 108 now), Praxis Freeride, something like that.

    Personally I go from 98 under foot (Kastle MX 98) to 116-118 under foot (Praxis Super Freerides (+10mm wide) or Quixote’s, or Shiros). If I moved back east, I’d take Brahmas or MX 98s, and the Quixote’s or Shiros as a 2 ski quiver, and just bring those out west for trips.

    If none of this is helpful, keep up the conversation with Keith, he has been awesome to me. If that’s not helping, maybe check out BlisterGearReview.com and start digging into the reviews. I think they have a membership where you can talk to the reviewers about specific skis and quiver slots.


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  7. #557
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    Elaborate

    Let’s see. At speed jumping into the chop they will dive.

    In the untracked you’ll need a reasonably heel heavy stance plus a turny style to keep from sinking big time.

    I would pick up the MVP’s on the real page as a complimentary ski to your ‘80s under foot skis.

    Or demo.


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  8. #558
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    MVP is an awesome EC ski that would serve you well out west. Replacement pair less than 24hrs from my doorstep. Old part still in great shape, just wanted another pair and to support Keith and the Praxis team.
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  9. #559
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    2018-19 Praxis Skis Info and Resource Thread

    My 193 MVPs are really fun in pow until/unless it gets really deep. I was surprised at how surfy/frictionless they feel in soft stuff considering their all mountain versatility.
    Last edited by Self Jupiter; 07-30-2019 at 10:08 PM.

  10. #560
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    I received my The Ski 185s ... they look sick. Traditional camber, nice tip rocker, mellow tail, stout flex (#4, heavy hitter core) and little taper which I like.
    I'd think these are going to be a killer for anything/everything save for worst condition or best conditions.

    If this is a variation on the RX, I kinda want to ski the RX now.

    cheers.

  11. #561
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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    I received my The Ski 185s ... they look sick. Traditional camber, nice tip rocker, mellow tail, stout flex (#4, heavy hitter core) and little taper which I like.
    I'd think these are going to be a killer for anything/everything save for worst condition or best conditions.

    If this is a variation on the RX, I kinda want to ski the RX now.

    cheers.
    This post is useless without piktures!

  12. #562
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    damn tgr auto rotate
    I had this graphic on GPO that I sold to tone ... always loved the look so I choose it again.

  13. #563
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    Nice. Interesting shape.

  14. #564
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    If you're thinking that's a lot of sidecut, I get it.

  15. #565
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    Quote Originally Posted by N1CK. View Post
    If you're thinking that's a lot of sidecut, I get it.
    I get it too! I haven't been on a 20-21m ski in a while. Carving tight turns in tight places on the EXPs I got from @grinch was ... a lot of fun!

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