Move to Sandpoint, ID ?

[haysman16]

I lived in Bonner’s Ferry for two summers and loved it. Some of the most remote backcountry I have ever spent time in with awesome fishing, whitewater and animals. I dated a girl from Fernie so spent a lot of time up there. I live in Teton Valley now and think the skiing is way better but overall Northern Idaho is hard to beat. I ran into a few white supremests and meth heads but not really any different than most places out west. If you live in Bonner’s you can go to Turner or up to Salmo pass pretty easily.

[Bunion 2020]

Butte:

Great mountain biking nearby but kind of one dimensional.

Then there is the Pit, and all the other Tailings piles and there are a lot of them, pretty much the entire city. And the water.

And the climate, cold as fuck in the winter and generally kind of breezy.

It is too bad because the old town section of Butte is amazing to wander around in. Lots of classic old buildings. Butte at one time was the largest city west of the Mississippi River between Chicago and San Francisco.

There is a Ballot Initiative here to make it much harder to get Permits to mine if you cannot show that water treatment will not be required in the future/perpetuity if/when a mine shuts down. Montana has several sites that will require water treatment until the Sun explodes or burns out. Ahhh Free Market!!!!

[Mudfoot]

A whole lot of Montanans voted for Trump and here's what they got for it.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ollution-rules

[yeahman]

It's going to be pretty fun when all that starts flowing directly into Silver Bow Creek and then the Clark Fork and then the Missoula aquifer.

Poor Clark Fork can't catch a break. Just floated a stretch of the upper river a couple weeks ago near Garrison. Good fishing with big hoppers, water was nice and clear. It would suck to see it get polluted again after so much improvement in the past decade or two.

[2FUNKY]

^ nice mang!

[fatnslow]

A whole lot of Montanans voted for Trump and here's what they got for it.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ollution-rules

They don't call it Montucky for nothin'

[DBdude]

A whole lot of Montanans voted for Trump and here's what they got for it.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ollution-rules

of course they are - mining built montana. it's easier to open more mines if you don't have to pay for the mess you created

why shouldn't the feds pay for it. those miners were obeying the existing laws and regs

the environment doesn't matter, what's really important is a guy making 30/hr running equipment.

[Bunion 2020]

Hit N Miss with mining here these days.

MT DEQ has denied a permit to a Mine whose CEO was labeled a "Bad Actor" for being involved in another Mine that left a legacy of forever costs to mitigate was was left behind when it closed. Same mine that was mentioned in Mudfoots link.

With the reliance on open pit mining that number of 30 dollar an hour operators isn't near as big as it used to be.

[tmokes]

I just went to sandpoint city beach. It was kindda nice. It was my first time going there in summer. It felt like a nice place to people watch and cool off at same time.


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[TahoeJ]

On that note, I didn't know the history of the pit and all that and just came across this today: https://www.topic.com/postcards-from-the-edge

[GeezerSteve]

On that note, I didn't know the history of the pit and all that and just came across this today: https://www.topic.com/postcards-from-the-edge

I came across that Thursday last week, when Abraham posted the link on post #71 of this thread

[TahoeJ]

I came across that Thursday last week, when Abraham posted the link on post #71 of this thread

Oh, haha! I saw it on a daily Digg email and didn't even notice it in this thread. Funny.

[yeahman]

Rising Missoula, Bozeman housing costs has some looking to Butte

BUTTE - In just one year, Butte’s housing values made a significant jump.

“I’m going to tell you the average price of a house of the houses sold was $143,000. This year to date it’s $173,000,” said Denise Kelly, owner, and broker at Re/Max in Butte.

Realtors credit the jump to home buyers from Bozeman and Missoula who are now turning their sights on Butte.

“West coast towns like LA and Seattle have moved into Bozeman and Missoula and in turn have priced a lot of people out of their homes, so they’re moving into Butte and Helena,” Kelly said.

Increased housing values in Bozeman come with increased sticker shock.

“We’re seeing the average price of a house in Bozeman is $462,000. How can a new family afford that?” Kelly asked.

The new interest in Butte real-estate has seen the Mining City get absorbed by the Bozeman market when Butte joined the Big Sky Country Multiple Listing Service in December.

“So we’re pulling in investors and buyers from all over Western Montana into Butte. So we’re seeing multiple offers on houses, we’re seeing increased values in houses,” she said.

With housing values on the rise, those in the industry still don’t believe people in Butte will get priced out of town like they did in other communities.

“I will tell you Butte’s going to be a steady-Eddie, we always are. We didn’t have huge crashes when the economy crashed, we didn’t have big booms,” Kelly said. “We’re really steady, I don’t think we’re going to have this crazy, crazy influx of people, I think it’s going to be a nice slow, steady growth.”

Hopefully without too many growing pains.

[Tye 1on]

Anywhere in Butte is just five minutes from Montana.

[RootSkier]

I work with like 20 people from Butte. They all say the same thing: "It's a great place to be from."

[muted]

They don't call it Montucky for nothin'

I've been to Kentucky, the word Montucky makes no sense. The locals are not hillbillies. All of it's surrounding states are more similar to Kentucky than Montana, and Nevada is easily the closest representation of it in the west. But overall the west is not similar to Kentucky.

But people like the sound of Montucky I guess and always smirk when it's said.

[Jumper Bones]

But people like the sound of Montucky I guess

And it makes for a great-tasting shit beer!

As for Butte and water issues...city water comes from the Basin Creek Reservoir...runoff from snowfall. Obviously bad if you're on well, but city water should be fine.

My family is from Butte, but long ago.

[detuned]

I moved to sandpoint five years ago, i moved out three years ago

beautiful area, decent hiking, not great biking, access to the hill is a twelve mile drive from town - not horrible but not ideal, locals WILL pass you going 50mph uphill and parking is "okay".

Terrain is steep in places but runs out quickly, chair 6 backside has access to best terrain but is s. l . o . w. Triple on front side has really good terrain access but gets skied out quickly on powder days and again no real sustained steep, runs out fast and yes, it does get foggy there

the town rolls up the sidewalks at about 6pm, seriously. Restaurants, meh...zero nightlife in that town. If your an old couple with retirement money, like knick knacky shops and hate millennials then it might be tolerable.

The cops suck too - true story: gal gets pulled over in town after dark because the officer witnessed an unescorted female exiting an establishment known to serve alcoholic beverages and proceed to operate a motor vehicle on a public thoroughfare. This was the reason the officer gave for the traffic stop. Unfortunately for the officer the lady was a teetotaler. Many more stories along those lines

maybe these days sandpoint is nice?

[jono]

These days Sandpoint has the worst air in the nation. Not as thick as the fog, but much less healthy. Nothing to see here. Well, nothing you can see, anyway.