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10-10-2018, 06:06 AM #401
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10-10-2018, 07:19 AM #402
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10-10-2018, 07:35 AM #403
Narrower.
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10-10-2018, 07:38 AM #404Registered User
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If you want a narrower deathwish have them make you a custom PB&Death.
Personally -- i like the regular deathwish for what you're talking about here in CO. But also think a little narrower would be the ticket. However, I wouldn't want to go any softer than the current Deathwish which is noticably softer than the PB&J or Bibby.
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10-10-2018, 09:53 AM #405
The DW Tour isn't really softer. Just lighter, so it isn't as damp and doesn't blow through chop as well.
A lot of folks and women like the shorter tour skis as resort skis so if lightweight is your thing go for it, just know what you're giving up.
The Deathwish is softer than the Bibby and PB&J but the flex profile for 18/19 on the DW has been redefined and is stiffer, especially the 190cm at the tips and tails.
Lastly, we have made some PB&Deaths and people love them. I personally haven't been on one yet but its one of the skis we are playing with more this Fall for the 19/20 Collection.
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10-10-2018, 10:02 AM #406Registered User
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10-10-2018, 10:22 AM #407
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10-10-2018, 10:35 AM #408
We are so busy right now. The production calendar is booked into December with little room to make anything else.
We are in the process of hiring another edge and layup tech but it takes time to get those positions up to speed.
If you wanted to do a group buy to keep them at retail pricing we would need ten pairs pre-ordered.
A PB&Death is a super easy production tweak and can be slipped in anytime. We could lay them all up in an afternoon...
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10-10-2018, 10:50 AM #409Registered User
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Just to clarify reb&death:
- It's a PB&J shape, in Deathwish camber mold?
- Follows PB&J sizing?
- PB&J flex or deathwish flex?
- Would group buy need to be all one size?
- Would group buy need to be the current topsheet? If not, any Moment topsheet available assuming we can agree on one?
Could potentially get down in a few months.
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10-10-2018, 11:07 AM #410
The PB&Death is the PB&J shape in the Deathwish mold. So a PB&J with Triple Camber Twin Rocker.
It follows PB&J sizing: 162, 172, ,182, 188
We can use the PB&J or Deathwish flex...but all must be the same for production.
I can make the group buy happen with ten pairs. Two sizes max.
Any topsheet is available but they all have to be the same.
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10-10-2018, 12:12 PM #411
Still waiting for that ONE ski that has been in development for at least 3 years...you know, the Super LE????
As far as the Tour skis are concerned...the old Exit World (Bibby shape) and my current Bibby Tour can be skied as hard as required and the skis handle just fine. As an old hack, I put them through the paces in every known ski condition, and I'm more than happy skiing them wherever and whenever.
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10-10-2018, 12:25 PM #412
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10-10-2018, 12:31 PM #413Registered User
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10-10-2018, 12:45 PM #415
The sooner the better.
Different weeks allow for different layups depending on what presses are in, but ten pairs can be laid up in an afternoon.
Hash out the details with Jake. Email: jake@momentskis.com
I already gave him the run down. Once we get ten paid invoices they will go into production asap.
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10-10-2018, 06:26 PM #416AF
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As Luke said, the lighter weight changes how it handles depending on conditions. It skis back country blower like the regular Deathwish but honestly I would not ski it inbounds unless conditions were packed powder. Never tried them in hard conditions especially with my BC boots, they are not nearly as burly as my 130 flex alpine boots.
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10-10-2018, 06:37 PM #417
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10-10-2018, 08:39 PM #419Banned
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Serious question..where would a pb&death perform better than a regular Pb&J? More slarvey? More edgey? Both? Am I way off?
Any chance of a heavier (2100g/ski 190cm) resort friendly wildcat 108 for 2020? I think I’d cream
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10-10-2018, 08:41 PM #420Minion
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70/30 Resort Powder/Touring ski
Loving this thread. Lots of great info. I'm trying to get as many opinions as I can before I pull the trigger this season but I plan on getting the 190 DW or waiting for the (hopefully) late December run of the 190 Blister Pro. I'm looking to get a 70/30 Resort Powder/Touring ski as my #2 (I already have a sub 100 charger for the CO early season or no new snow groomer days).
I'm leaning towards the DW because of the stiffer flex this year and it's slightly narrower but I think still does the trick from everything I've read. Am I on the right track?
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10-10-2018, 08:46 PM #421Banned
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Yessssss. Idk if serious but yes
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10-10-2018, 08:51 PM #422
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10-10-2018, 08:53 PM #424Banned
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Nice. They all seem like great additions to the line up.
About the PB&Jib, does the bamboo affect edge hold at all?
If I was flush I would load up on so many customs from you guys.
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10-10-2018, 08:56 PM #425Registered User
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