Moment Skis Discussion

**Norseman** · 10-11-2018, 06:15 PM

Haha.

There's a 2-headed fetus skeleton on the floor of the living room, too.

**alias_rice** · 10-11-2018, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by iriponsnow

Sick skis, but WTF is in your microwave?’

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Ha! Yeah, we’ve been having some weird things happen around here.

**doebedoe** · 10-11-2018, 07:19 PM

@alias_rice -- which brake width is that? Buddy is looking to put shifts on same width skis wondering which to order.

**alias_rice** · 10-11-2018, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by doebedoe

@alias_rice -- which brake width is that? Buddy is looking to put shifts on same width skis wondering which to order.

110. Fits just fine

**sruffian** · 10-11-2018, 07:41 PM

That wildcat 108 rocker profile just made me feel feelings

**Melee** · 10-11-2018, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by doebedoe

@alias_rice -- which brake width is that? Buddy is looking to put shifts on same width skis wondering which to order.

We stock Shifts at the factory. Need to call/email to order. Atomic wont let us list them on our website...and I know they are back ordered at a few places already.

**Melee** · 10-11-2018, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by doebedoe

Just to clarify re

b&death:

- It's a PB&J shape, in Deathwish camber mold?
- Follows PB&J sizing?
- PB&J flex or deathwish flex?
- Would group buy need to be all one size?
- Would group buy need to be the current topsheet? If not, any Moment topsheet available assuming we can agree on one?

Could potentially get down in a few months.

I answered all these questions a couple pages back but I talked with the guys and looked at the production logs.

All the past PB&Deaths we have made had the Deathwish flex and they were hyped on the outcome.

**doebedoe** · 10-11-2018, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by Melee

I answered all these questions a couple pages back but I talked with the guys and looked at the production logs.

All the past PB&Deaths we have made had the Deathwish flex and they were hyped on the outcome.

Yas. We will help you prototype them. If we can find the buyers.

**doebedoe** · 10-11-2018, 08:45 PM

PB&Death thread: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...45#post5464545

**SUPERIOR** · 10-12-2018, 07:53 PM

Hey collective,

A ripping gal skier I’m trying to help out is interested in the 174 Wildcat Tour 108 and the 172 Bella.

Shes a former racer and Ironman triathlete who wants a stick that can do both resort and BC.

Both skis seem pretty similar. Anyone have insight on differences?

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**recoveringflatlander** · 10-12-2018, 08:29 PM

Interested in the possibility of the PB+Death...can we add a little metal as well?

Also, intrigued by the Commander 98. Trying to determine what they are and how they’ll ski. Was looking at the Bent Chetler 100...but hoping for maybe just slightly stiffer. Is that the Commander 98 or am I way off?

**Banh Mi** · 10-12-2018, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by recoveringflatlander

Interested in the possibility of the PB+Death...can we add a little metal as well?

Also, intrigued by the Commander 98. Trying to determine what they are and how they’ll ski. Was looking at the Bent Chetler 100...but hoping for maybe just slightly stiffer. Is that the Commander 98 or am I way off?

Regular PB&J

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**detrusor** · 10-12-2018, 10:20 PM

Got the Chipotle’s. Putting demo bindings on them.

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**doebedoe** · 10-13-2018, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by detrusor

Got the Chipotle’s. Putting demo bindings on them.

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Buddy is doing the same. He is stoked to blade around with his 2 and 3 year olds.

**Melee** · 10-14-2018, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by doebedoe

Buddy is doing the same. He is stoked to blade around with his 2 and 3 year olds.

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We use Tyrolia Demos on all our blades, with the exception of Tyler Curle putting Pivot 18s on his, haha. Definitely the way to go.

**skier666** · 10-15-2018, 12:01 PM

Yup...perfect for dads 'surviving' with the 2-3 year olds...

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**Melee** · 10-16-2018, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERIOR

Hey collective,

A ripping gal skier I’m trying to help out is interested in the 174 Wildcat Tour 108 and the 172 Bella.

Shes a former racer and Ironman triathlete who wants a stick that can do both resort and BC.

Both skis seem pretty similar. Anyone have insight on differences?

She will probably be most at home on the Wildcat Tour 108 since it has some camber. The Bella is super fun but is full rocker.

Wildcat Tour 108 - 174cms should be shipping next week.

184s and 190s are shipping now.

**skier666** · 10-17-2018, 12:38 PM

My wife at 5-10...skied regular 174cm Bibbys for years and loved them.

**wapiti hunter** · 10-17-2018, 10:21 PM

Are those chipotle blades for the grom or custom jobs for him? I have a 5 year old lighter weight ripper who loves to screw around switch but is shorter and light weight - was thinking of the blades for her but figured they might not work out.

**Flexon Phil** · 10-17-2018, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Melee

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We use Tyrolia Demos on all our blades, with the exception of Tyler Curle putting Pivot 18s on his, haha. Definitely the way to go.

Good meeting you today.

**Melee** · 10-18-2018, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Flexon Phil

Good meeting you today.

That's not me! That's Austin, our main layup guy. Regardless, it was great meeting you as well! Thanks for stopping by!

**recoveringflatlander** · 10-18-2018, 07:42 PM

Commander 98...:initial thought m, comparisons, etc? What is it compared to the PB&J?

**XavierD** · 10-18-2018, 10:57 PM

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My 184 Wild Cat Tours. Skis were 1751g and 1711g each. 40g is not a big variation for most skis.

**Melee** · 10-19-2018, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by recoveringflatlander

Commander 98...:initial thought m, comparisons, etc? What is it compared to the PB&J?

Commander 98 vs. PB&J.

Very different skis.

The Commander 98 is a direction ripper with two sheets of metal, carbon fiberstringers and a damp core. The dual radius sidecut has a recommended mount of -8cm.

The PB&J is a lot more playful and easier to ski. Camber underfoot and rocker at the tip and tail. Its a little wider at 101mm underfoot. The recommended mount is -5cm so its easier to engage a turn and pivot in tight spots.