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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Certain professions are only in it for the money, except my profession, we're all good.
    Male nurses who are really ski bums comes to mind. Not exactly the most caring club around when you are sick. Some females too, of course, do this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive View Post
    For all you divorced folks:

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    MTM, I've always enjoyed your posts. But you're being complete dick. I could go into all the circumstances, but I got the best deal I could get under the circumstances and I got fucked in terms of what is actually right and fair again, under the circumstances. I suspect you would have told me to take it too if you knew what was up, so don't be a dick, OK? I really don't need that right now.

    She has the money for a protracted battle and I don't, and the likely outcome of a trial would have been a bigger fucking. Unless of course you want to come represent me for free in a crapshoot of a trial against two sociopathic narcissists who're a pathological liars (her and her lawyer) with bottomless pockets (not subject to CP) which I'm pretty sure you won't.

    Quote Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark View Post
    A settlement agreement is enforceable, but no one at all is forcing you into that settlement. So any notion that you got fucked is derived from what you agree to settle with. Saying that you got fucked is ridiculous. If you feel that way, it's your own choice to do so.

    You should be asking your questions to yourself. You are always entitled to a trial in front of a judge who will dice things up differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oftpiste View Post
    MTM, I've always enjoyed your posts. But you're being complete dick. I could go into all the circumstances, but I got the best deal I could get under the circumstances and I got fucked in terms of what is actually right and fair again, under the circumstances. I suspect you would have told me to take it too if you knew what was up, so don't be a dick, OK? I really don't need that right now.

    She has the money for a protracted battle and I don't, and the likely outcome of a trial would have been a bigger fucking. Unless of course you want to come represent me for free in a crapshoot of a trial against two sociopathic narcissists who're a pathological liars (her and her lawyer) with bottomless pockets (not subject to CP) which I'm pretty sure you won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Certain professions are only in it for the money, except my profession, we're all good.
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    I think a system that wasn't inherently adversarial should be the baseline. It's geared toward getting yours, and getting some of theirs, too, if you can get away with it. Nothing is off the table. That sucks. "No fault" is a nice start. I'm glad I got divorced in a no fault state... saved a lot of BS (and the advice she got from internet friends living in different states was both hilarious and depressing, can't believe some of those things are factors in other parts of the country). It'd be nice if my lawyer didn't work for me and her lawyer didn't work for her, even if they do represent our interests.

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    Fair enough, but if we're giving folks the benefit of the doubt it's worth at least noting that sometimes the choice is between "giant douche" and "turd sandwich".
    I mean, nobody likes turd sandwich, but it may be a little oversimple to just point out that he chose turd sandwich and that was his choice.
    This is a good point. I feel like I got fucked, even if I recognize that I largely fucked myself. Why would I do that? Well, my district tends to favor custody for the mother, particularly if the mother was a stay at home mom for all but the last couple years of the marriage. You can argue that that's right and good, and I'd argue that's absolutely fucked, but that's a different argument. So rather than take the chance that I'd only see my kids every other weekend I accepted a compromise that let me see my kids 40% of the time, structured around ongoing work and volunteer obligations. Is 50/50 appropriate? Sure. Would I have gotten it? I don't know.... How do you leave that to chance? The other stuff... I don't see how I win by kicking my kids out of their home, or can't afford nice things when they aren't with me. If the roles were reversed I have no doubt she would have done it to me in a heartbeat, but that's why I didn't want to live with her anymore.

    Which is all stuff I've already said. My point is, the system is designed to give one side the chance of stripping everything from the other side if the cards fall their way, and they're motivated to do that. They want to be the baddest ass lawyer in town. Fuck. That. My lawyer is "a real bulldog" who's "relentless." I don't want that shit when I'm trying to negotiate what my family's life looks like for the next decade. I think fixing the system means taking away the motivation to develop that reputation. Capitalism sucks a big fat dick when you're talking about kids and relationships and quality of life.
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    The other day I start getting texts from the ex. My youngest is sick, needs to come home from school. She had a cold with a slight fever. Poor baby....

    Anyhow, I was in a marginally important work meeting with our board of directors, declined her call, asked her what's up. She says our youngest is sick. I say poor kid.... She jumps instantly to telling me it's my parenting time, per the custody order. I need to go get her. Which is a weird rhetorical strategy, since our custody order doesn't say any such thing. Not even close. Like, I'm not sure how you'd interpret what is written to get there, but I don't think you can, not rationally. I told her that's not even close to true, but if she wants to stick to reality we can work together to make sure our daughter gets taken care of. What's her work schedule looking like, I can squeak out in 15 or so, maybe.... etc.

    She texts back and says don't ever contact her again. Followed up with that she's already left to go get the sick kid.

    Followed up with, about 30 mins later, whether maybe I can take the next day off work or work from home as she really can't afford to miss more work. Pretty please?
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    Bitch About Your Ex Thread....

    Kids recently met my new girlfriend and weíve been doing some things together. Low key, easy.... dinner, picnic, etc. We are building up to an overnight camping trip in a little over a month.

    Anyways, we met her for dinner tonight and afterwards we were going to the grocery store and my oldest wanted to stop by her momís house and grab something for school tomorrow. My 12yo son wasnít feeling well during dinner and wanted to skip the store, so my girlfriend offered to drop him off on her way home. Fine. Easy. Everybody wins.

    When we stop by my exís house, though, I stayed in the car while the girls ran in. My youngest tells her that my gf took my son back to the house, and she lost her damn mind.

    It started with her saying she was going to call the police on my gf, and quickly escalated to her telling me I had to get out of her driveway. When I told her Iíd leave as soon as the kids got what they needed and got back in the car, she said she was going to call the police on me for trespassing. By then, the girls came back out, physically stopped her from getting her phone out, and begged her not to call the police.

    Now she is saying if it ever happens again she will call the police and take me to court over the right of first refusal in the custody agreement. Iím not engaging, but also being clear with her that she is wrong and that isnít what that clause means.....

    So. Good times. Itís been almost 2 years. Looks like this is normal.... sigh.
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    ^ex's and girlfriends plus kids is bad juju.
    Mine isn't quite as nuts as yours, but jealously ain't no fun.
    If your gf is able to deal with the ex bullshit she might be a keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiballs View Post
    If your gf is able to deal with the ex bullshit she might be a keeper.
    I have not sugarcoated my exís behavior at all to her, and she has been amazing. True test will be the first face to face, I guess, but I wouldnít have introduced my kids to her if I didnít think she might be one for the long haul.

    It just sucks so much for my kids to be thrust into the dysfunction my ex is creating.
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    A divorced friend of mine only communicates with his ex through an app for divorced parents. I cant think of the name he called it but it time stamps everything and shows that they have recieved and read the message. I guess its helpful to prove what was said and wasnt for custody issues...

    Seems like Mustonen might have a case for parental alienation or something.

    I might have let her call the cops. She has no restraining order and you're sitting in the car while the kid gets something out of the house?

    At least the kids seem old enough to see through her bullshit?

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    So I have been playing the field a little bit lately and I find some cute girl stalking me on linkedin. She went to Chico, so I add her being a fellow Californian and in St. Louis. Turns out she is married! And found me on her cousins Match account. 14 yrs, 2 kids, school teacher.

    Really nice girl, but, Iím too old start screwing up like that and donít need help going to hell, so just chatting through LinkedIn and went on a hike once.

    My point, the fucked up shit chicks say when there are done with a man!! I donít care if she is unhappy, they lose their minds!

    She told me sheís selling his ring as soon as she files and taking a vacation to hawaii, and will i go with her? I read that and thought to myself, Is my ex lying about my 20k ring sitting in her safety deposit box for my daughter? Probably.

    My 15 yr son was sitting next to me and I just couldínt resist showing him. I never want some insane, spiteful chick to hurt him.

    The only reason Iím still talking to her, other than her being insanely hot, is that itís my hope I can some how give her some advice so she doesnít ruin her two boys.

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    Bitch About Your Ex Thread....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    The only reason Iím still talking to her, other than her being insanely hot, is that itís my hope I can some how give her some advice so she doesnít ruin her two boys.
    Uh-huh.

    Massive red flag, though. Thatís not just ďbitches will be bitchesĒ (though I think sheís entitled to do what she wants with the ring, and a Hawaii vacation with a disposable piece of meat sounds about right....), that speaks to a vindictive, entitled, narcissistic worldview. My ex said TERRIBLE, demeaning and belittling things about her exes, things I knew were probably not true, and treated them horribly. I mostly ignored it, to my eternal regret.

    My new gf, by anecdotal contrast, really has nothing bad to say about who her exes were as people, and it isnít because there isnít bad stuff that could be said. Itís refreshing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    ...My point, the fucked up shit chicks say when there are done with a man!! I donít care if she is unhappy, they lose their minds!
    Man, ain't that the truth!!! Rationality is out the freaking window at that point!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    She told me sheís selling his ring as soon as she files and taking a vacation to hawaii, and will i go with her?...
    Lol, that's what they all say... and 9 times out of 10, they end up staying with their husband. In my single days, I had a handful of miserably married chicks hit on me aggressively, saying how they were going to leave their supposedly abusive (always "emotionally) husbands and wanted to get with me. That always sent off alarm bells to me and I never once took the bait as I hate drama. Had enough of my own with my own ex. Each one I told that if they were really THAT miserable that they should leave their husband first, actually file, and THEN get back to me if they were still interested. EVERY SINGLE ONE of them figured things out with their man and remained married. Not one left. Yup! Just what I thought. So glad I never got tangled up in their drama. That or worse. Could've gotten myself killed by a pissed off husband who didn't know his wife was (supposedly) "going to leave" him. Lol NOPE! Homey don't play that. You better have no strings attached. Things can get messy reeeaaaal quick. Just not worth it for a quick hookup with a psychotic floozy, no matter how hawt they may be. You'd just be asking for trouble then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    Uh-huh.

    Massive red flag, though. That’s not just “bitches will be bitches” (though I think she’s entitled to do what she wants with the ring, and a Hawaii vacation with a disposable piece of meat sounds about right....), that speaks to a vindictive, entitled, narcissistic worldview. My ex said TERRIBLE, demeaning and belittling things about her exes, things I knew were probably not true, and treated them horribly. I mostly ignored it, to my eternal regret.

    My new gf, by anecdotal contrast, really has nothing bad to say about who her exes were as people, and it isn’t because there isn’t bad stuff that could be said. It’s refreshing.
    Woh! You just made an excellent point that I never really connected before you said it. The absolute worst women in my life (including my ex-wife) would do EXACTLY that. They would go on and on about how much their ex's sucked and some of the "awful" things their exes called them. Well lo and behold, after I learned the hard way, I realized everything their exes called them was spot on!!! Lol.

    And just like your new girlfriend, all of the BEST women I've been with (including my outstanding current wife who I've been with for over 8 years), just didn't really talk trash about their exes. If anything, they don't hide or avoid saying positive things they may have done with them. "Oh yeah, we went to Chicago once. Went to the Jazz Fest. Was really cool!" Interesting how when a person has that attitude about an ex, that it helps the current relationship stay more positive. It's like they don't dwell on the past, allowing all that negativity to fester and effect where they are today. I have positive memories of my own with (good) exes and it's SOOOOO nice that I can be similarly open and positive about that with her too without fear of jealousy or pissing her off. That's a big helpful aspect of our relationship I hadn't thought about 'til now.

    Wow. Mind blown, Mustonen. I'm going to have to ponder on that one some more. Could be some great advice to pass down to my own kids as to what to look out for in a person for their own future relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustonen View Post
    Uh-huh.

    Massive red flag, though. Thatís not just ďbitches will be bitchesĒ (though I think sheís entitled to do what she wants with the ring, and a Hawaii vacation with a disposable piece of meat sounds about right....), that speaks to a vindictive, entitled, narcissistic worldview. My ex said TERRIBLE, demeaning and belittling things about her exes, things I knew were probably not true, and treated them horribly. I mostly ignored it, to my eternal regret.

    My new gf, by anecdotal contrast, really has nothing bad to say about who her exes were as people, and it isnít because there isnít bad stuff that could be said. Itís refreshing.
    Yep, the last chick I was in a relationship with her ex husband was literally committed, and would commit himself. Sheíd tell me about and I knew enough to ask myself ďam I nextĒ?. And clearly, sheís not taking responsibility for anything. Sheíd joke about their counseling, him getting pissed off in his ďsafe spaceĒ, like his life going down the toilet wasnít serious. Meanwhile she was playing the mother card, cannot make compromises or do any wrong. Big surprise it ended horribly.

    This current chick, she told me that, and I question if she realizes Iím divorced? And maybe I donít like to hear about chicks selling rings that cost a guy several months pay?

    They take no responsibility for their own mistakes.
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    Lots of normal chicks out there. Iím also seeing a really cool chick who is zero percent crazy. A widow, with her shot together. And she even claimed to me how guys are attracted to crazy.

    There is some truth to that, so maybe we get what we deserve somehow.

    Do I wait for crazy hot? Or go with level headed widow who takes nothing for granted? Sad itís even a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Lots of normal chicks out there. I’m also seeing a really cool chick who is zero percent crazy. A widow, with her shot together. And she even claimed to me how guys are attracted to crazy.

    There is some truth to that, so maybe we get what we deserve somehow.

    Do I wait for crazy hot? Or go with level headed widow who takes nothing for granted? Sad it’s even a question.
    Well, I can only speak as to my own experience but I say the widow. My own wife was widowed very young. Her first husband died in a freaking plane crash. She's amazingly level headed and treats me quite well as she doesn't take a single day for granted. The fact that they can go through such trauma and come out the other side NOT crazy is great proof of their mental stability. A rare trait among women indeed. Lol.

    Looks only last so long. Crazy tends to be forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    So I have been playing the field a little bit lately and I find some cute girl stalking me on linkedin. She went to Chico, so I add her being a fellow Californian and in St. Louis. Turns out she is married! And found me on her cousins Match account. 14 yrs, 2 kids, school teacher.

    Really nice girl, but, Iím too old start screwing up like that and donít need help going to hell, so just chatting through LinkedIn and went on a hike once.

    My point, the fucked up shit chicks say when there are done with a man!! I donít care if she is unhappy, they lose their minds!

    She told me sheís selling his ring as soon as she files and taking a vacation to hawaii, and will i go with her? I read that and thought to myself, Is my ex lying about my 20k ring sitting in her safety deposit box for my daughter? Probably.

    My 15 yr son was sitting next to me and I just couldínt resist showing him. I never want some insane, spiteful chick to hurt him.

    The only reason Iím still talking to her, other than her being insanely hot, is that itís my hope I can some how give her some advice so she doesnít ruin her two boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    Well, I can only speak as to my own experience but I say the widow. My own wife was widowed very young. Her first husband died in a freaking plane crash. She's amazingly level headed and treats me quite well as she doesn't take a single day for granted. The fact that they can go through such trauma and come out the other side NOT crazy is great proof of their mental stability. A rare trait among women indeed. Lol.

    Looks only last so long. Crazy tends to be forever.
    I really cannot make anymore excuses for crazy. Plus the last one shaved 10 yrs off my life. But damn, she was hot.

    Interesting. The widow lost her husband in a plane crash too. He was a commercial pilot and flew his personal plane into the side of a mountain. Heíd just bought it, and was flying it home. So maintenance probably.

    Her Dad was shot down over Nam and lived at the Hanoi Hilton with John mcCain. Heís the guy who memorized everyoneís names when he was released early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    I really cannot make anymore excuses for crazy. Plus the last one shaved 10 yrs off my life. But damn, she was hot.
    LMAO. Now before you go making any further mistakes, let us not ever forget this supremely accurate matrix:




    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Interesting. The widow lost her husband in a plane crash too. He was a commercial pilot and flew his personal plane into the side of a mountain. He’d just bought it, and was flying it home. So maintenance probably.

    Her Dad was shot down over Nam and lived at the Hanoi Hilton with John mcCain. He’s the guy who memorized everyone’s names when he was released early.
    That's nuts. With a dad like that, no wonder she has such strong resolve. Sounds like she has proper perspective. Unlike my crazy exes who for them, EVERYTHING was the end of the freaking world and worth a big knockdown drag out fight over. Noooooooo thank you.

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    Iím coming to the end of the road with my ex. Kids are 15 and barely want to hang out with me. In my divorce I did not fight for anything, and I stayed an extra 12 yrs in the midwest. I could have returned to Chicago and re started my trading career but i stayed for my kids.

    Itís such a bad deal on so many levels. My ex now makes 500k a yr. what a joke she played the poor house wife and held onto my taxes for 3 yrs. lately I think about how hard I worked and had a million dollar house paid for at 30 and that at 47 Iím basically starting over. . Now I listened to others who think Iím some kind of a fuck up, to add insult to injury. Same assholes who wanted to hang out when I was pulling down 7 figures.

    You just have to say what the fuck and let go, or you will never be happy. If I could go back and do it again i may not have stayed, you canít nebotiate with terrorists. Now I have kids with a rich mother who buys them anything and we practically car camp on our ski trip.

    But Iím fucking proud to have been there, and done that, and teach my kids all that shit is worthless. My son moans that we donít fly and stay slope side at Copper, but then again his fat step dad could not take him OB, backside either. I prepaid for their college when he was born, and topped it off in the divorce. They all live in a great house because of me, including the new hubby. Get this, I traded a red 911 in for my exís minivan, now he drives it. Next yr Iíll make my son dig an igloo at wolf creek and we will live off cliff bars.

    Donít know what life has in store for me from here, but it will be real.

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    Bitch About Your Ex Thread....

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    my outstanding current wife who I've been with for over 8 years
    Best story about Mrs. Austin:

    I knew they were expecting their first child any day now, so when Austin invited me over for afternoon beers on his front porch, I figured he just wanted to calm his nerves. Instead I find an 8.999 month pregnant Mrs. Austin out mowing the lawn while Austin chilled in a comfy chair in the shade. She smiled, waved, and said "Hi Harry, have a seat with Austin and I will get you a beer !". She got me the beer and went back to mowing the lawn. Before I even sat down I turned to Austin and said "WTF dude... We need to get out there and work while she takes a break.." Austin said "Chill out, this is how we roll...". About 15 minutes later she shut the mower off and went inside. I figured she was going to the bathroom, or having the baby, or something. Instead she comes out with 2 thick roast beef sandwiches and 2 more beers. She was smiling and cheerful as she started the mower back up. I later got a text at 3am that his son was born healthy and happy.

    Being a bachelor in a ski town is fun, but getting to know a solid couple like The Austin Family is pretty cool too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Best story about Mrs. Austin:

    I knew they were expecting their first child any day now, so when Austin invited me over for afternoon beers on his front porch, I figured he just wanted to calm his nerves. Instead I find an 8.999 month pregnant Mrs. Austin out mowing the lawn while Austin chilled in a comfy chair in the shade. She smiled, waved, and said "Hi Harry, have a seat with Austin and I will get you a beer !". She got me the beer and went back to mowing the lawn. Before I even sat down I turned to Austin and said "WTF dude... We need to get out there and work while she takes a break.." Austin said "Chill out, this is how we roll...". About 15 minutes later she shut the mower off and went inside. I figured she was going to the bathroom, or having the baby, or something. Instead she comes out with 2 thick roast beef sandwiches and 2 more beers. She was smiling and cheerful as she started the mower back up. I later got a text at 3am that his son was born healthy and happy.

    Being a bachelor in a ski town is fun, but getting to know a solid couple like The Austin Family is pretty cool too.
    Ha! Yup. She's a keeper! I swear, before you got there I actually insisted I do that stuff, but she was like "NO! I'm just pregnant, not an invalid!" and she kind of wouldn't let us do that stuff for her. She's had two kids now and she's never been dramatic about being pregnant, or giving birth. All naturale (no drugs or anything), and one was breach too! Screw that! Haha. Crazy birth and she just acts like it was NBD. Baby Austin being born actually came the day after next, though. She went into labor the morning after you and I hung out but it took about 24 hours. After she started going into labor after you and I hung out, she was like "Before we go into Bozeman, let's go on a quick hike first" and we hiked up Porcupine for a couple miles. I was like "WTF, woman?!" ...She's kind of a badass.

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    you know, reading some of this, have anyause, when you get older and look back, didja realize you totally read your parents and thier situation wrong growing up? I know I did.

    Guess that's growing up is.
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