Electric Bike Thread

[summit]

For a top tube bag for your phone, get one that sits up against the seat post, not one that sits up by the stem. This keeps it out of the way of your knees.

[SKIP IN7RO]

I reach down between my legs and Ease the seatpost bag zipper back

[grinch]

Yeah I have thot about this lots, I got enough bikes , I need to only have 1 e-bike and I don't want tot mess with this but what do you think of the price for a low spec 2020 Bullit in pretty good shape with a dead motor, all maintenance up to date it probably would have gone the season til november if the motor hadn't kacked ?

At your price,Id buy it as is in a second if i didnt have so many things on the go atm.
A quick glance tells me its probably worth getting a motor and selling it for quite a bit more thsn that motor cost.
This guy as an extra motor, maybe hit him up on that extra motor?
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/4016194/

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[jackstraw]

For a top tube bag for your phone, get one that sits up against the seat post, not one that sits up by the stem. This keeps it out of the way of your knees.

I'm assuming the reason for having it is to see it whilst riding? Otherwise throw it in a pack or a pocket

[Shredhead]

Just get a smart watch.

[XXX-er]

So the shimano product always had that display on the bar but I'm getting into this a little more and while there is no display but I'm wondering if i really need another display if i can just pull out the phone which I use it to start my truck to run my ski socks and now I can find out ever thing i need to know about my e-bike ?

[SKIP IN7RO]

^it's time, you are ready for a neuralink implant

[grinch]

What could go wrong

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[Shredhead]

Rode an Unno today.

https://www.unno.com/mith/pro

Really nice bike.

[Shredhead]

Today was a Nox.



Also a very nice bike.

[grinch]

Wow, having fun Shread. Bet that unno was magic

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[Shredhead]

Beautiful bike, but way too high end for me.
The one I rode had a CX Boesh, but the newest ones will come with the DJI.
https://ebike-mtb.com/en/dji-avinox-review/

[XXX-er]

they are already plenty expensive so imo just buying the lowest spec of any of these full power E-bikes saves 6 k which i did with Bullit and I did it again with Vala 70 I am really liking the new Vala, I can just pull my phone out so a month later I don't really miss a display on the bar I am not sure about the non removable battery but so far no issues but all kinds of things I can see are better on the Bosch proudct after being a 4 yr Shimano end loser


I had to replace the 100$ charge port cuz the Shimano has a small shitty piece of easily broken hard plastic with small shitty conatcts while bosch has a big manly rubber plug with rubber port cover with big contacts which isnt gona break


A 50$ snagged wire to display left me pushing the Shimano out of the bush while Bosch has no display so no wire TO the display also no wire TO the power mode switch cuz it is blue tooth no wires on the bar of any kind to break



A set of camel humps in the area that always stalls me out on Shimano is no problem with Bosch so the bosch product definatley has more low end grunt the motor also make less noise the motor also assists in a better manner




brand new the EP8 had intermittently had the dreaded E010 code which was fixed after 2 firmware down loads




but THE biggest fuckup is that Shimao Narth America will not sell me a new EP8 while buddy LBS buddy on a user group in England sez ya mate I can get a new EP8 in 3 days


so while I usually give the company building out door equipment the benifit of the doubt



fuck Shimano Narth Ameica eh DO NOT BUY an Ebike with a Shimano motor

[Shredhead]

I'm not currently in the market.
My long time bike tech/LBS, partnered with a high end Euro ski shop.
Whenever I'm there, he lets me take a spin.

[XXX-er]

That Avinox looks great but I duno how far away it is from me being able to walk 3 short blocks to my dealer ?


I have bought bikes from an out of town dealer and its usually not a problem to fiddle with something mechnical but IME with Eeb I want a dealer there to take care of it cuz the Eeb part just adds another level of fuckery


I bought my Bullit august 2020 and its great except I get intermittent E010 which is a catchall sensor code which could be about 17 things it finally shit completey dead with the E010 code local dealer hasnt a clue and i bought it at a dealer 400kms east


and here is the thing the local dealer has no way to recoup $ from shimano on a bike they did not sell so i would get a labor bill on a warranty SC


I leave it sit for a month and when i am loading it into the truck to go east it starts working but then its still intermeitently throwing codes so i discover I can bypass the code if I start riding before the 20 or 30 second POR sequence completes


eventualy I do a firmware update in oct 20 which does not fix it then i do a dec release of firmware update the next jun which 100% fixes it for 5600 kms 4 yrs


YMMV of course but you can see why IME/ IMO you really want to buy your Eeb from your LBS 4 yrs later Eebs are everywhere the young guy who put my Vala togetehr was still in HS 4 yrs ago now he wrenches fulltime and he rides a Vala SO I feel better this time

[grinch]

SC didnt get you a motor but YT, an online co, got me one. Both shimano

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[The SnowShow]

Has anyone here done a mountain bike conversion to e-bike? I have a YT full suspension and am curious about spending a fraction of the cost of a good e-mtb and upgrading with a Bafang or Tongsheng mid-drive motor/battery. Is this a stupid idea?

[XXX-er]

Yeah so what do you not say, I assume the motor or motors YT got you were warranty in any case my LBS tells me Shimano which is Shimano north America would or could not come up with an EP8 motor while Shimano comes up with one in 3 days across the pond


So after 4 yrs its not really the job of the LBS to get me a new EP8 I also called the LBS 400 kms east who sold me the bike and I never heard from him again even tho he knows me well



my LBS guy used to work for Shimano he laughed and said yeah the shimano rep and the SC rep are married So neither one of them could get me an EP8


if Shimano would sell me a new EP8 for say 800 $ Iwould be ok with that instead they leave their customer SOL


So it would appear YT is good lets see how good they are apres warranty period


Shimano NA sucks dead goats and IMO donot buy a Shimano


beside the bosch is really looking like a much better product

[XXX-er]

"" Has anyone here done a mountain bike conversion to e-bike? I have a YT full suspension and am curious about spending a fraction of the cost of a good e-mtb and upgrading with a Bafang or Tongsheng mid-drive motor/battery. Is this a stupid idea? ""


i donot see how you could make an acoustic bike into a midrive I could see hanging a hub drive wheel on the frame and a battery on a rear rack but hub drives suck


i would call it an INCREDIBLY STUPD !!! idea


IME IMO just buy the cheapest version of a real Eeb mtn bike assuming you want a real mtn bike which might save 6 K over the top end model

[El Chupacabra]

I converted a Schwinn hybrid to an e bike for commuting use, around 8-9 years ago. I used a Bafang BBSHD mid drive kit with a battery that attached to a bracket mounted to the down tube water bottle braze-ons. Worked fine for commute purposes.

Unless the design has changed, the Bafang motor just attaches to the bottom bracket shell by clamping through the shell - - it does not thread into the BB shell. For on road use, that was OK, the motor did not rotate within the BB shell. For a mountain bike, I'd expect impacts to cause the motor to rotate downwards - - maybe there's some other bracket that could attach and support it.

I also wouldn't trust the water bottle braze-on mounts for mountain biking - - I'd use a front triangle frame bag, and put the largest battery I could get in the bag.

The Bafang kit I had did not have any torque sensing input, just a crank rotation sensor. It could also be run purely off thumb throttle, no actual pedaling required.

[XXX-er]

OK so i looked on- line at Bafang mid drive they look to be 600 $ to 1000 $ so how do they work as a mtn bike or what does the snowshow want and what does he expect obviously I have no idea


Does a throttle and such a big motor take in out of the class 1 E-bike designation ?


E-bike conversions would probably be a worthy seperate thread if anybody was into it or enough people had done it

[Shredhead]

My FATe has a Bafang motor.



It's heavy, but that's not that big of deal on a fat bike. Everything's heavy.

It's been pretty reliable.
I actually really like the throttle. It makes getting started in deep snow much easier. It also was a godsend rehabbing my knee after TKR.

I don't think a home made bike would hold up very well on ruff trails. Most I've seen were commuters.

[The SnowShow]

OK so i looked on- line at Bafang mid drive they look to be 600 $ to 1000 $ so how do they work as a mtn bike or what does the snowshow want and what does he expect obviously I have no idea


Does a throttle and such a big motor take in out of the class 1 E-bike designation ?


E-bike conversions would probably be a worthy seperate thread if anybody was into it or enough people had done it

What I’d want is to be able to ride single track up thousands of feet of vertical and go for longer.

[nickwm21]

An Ebike kit is going to cost you $1000-$1500.

You could get a low spec FS Emtb from a reputable brand for $3k then swap some
components and sell the YT for $1k?

Things to think about going with a kit:
- Does the battery fit where it’s not going to throw off the balance of the bike?
- Where will the motor be when the suspension is bottomed out?
- Will you be able to route all the new cables in a satisfactory/stable way
- Do you have space on the handlebars for the controls.

All that stuff is thought thru and done clean on a consumer e-bike but can be problematic on a convert…

But - yeah the kits generally work….


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[XXX-er]

Maybe there is some kind of Bafang mid drive users group cuz there seems to be one for dam near everything else ? but i got no fucking idea ?


what i will offer is going from Bullit to Vala I figured another full power Eeb with an advertised difference of a few lbs it wouldn't be that different but I definalty feel less weight/ where it is so less weight up front/ steeper angle/ faster steering/ new Bosch motor is way better in terms of ridabiliy & power which is all the shit SC designed in


SO what I am getting at is I mtnbike for fun not to save money whereas i would make a commuter to save money and it would not matter just run the engine and lock it to a post