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  1. #3276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Are you getting pinch flats in winter?

    Did your norco come with tubeless ready wheels?

    My 2020 was originally spec'd with mulefits but they changed it and I'm stuck with no name wheels.

    I tried to set up tubeless but no luck.

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    No I've been riding the fat e alot on dirt since putting the Bluto on. Rims are Not tubeless, used muc off valves, sealant and gorilla tape. Lots of sealant, like 250+ ml per.


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  2. #3277
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    Quote Originally Posted by pano-dude View Post
    No I've been riding the fat e alot on dirt since putting the Bluto on. Rims are Not tubeless, used muc off valves, sealant and gorilla tape. Lots of sealant, like 250+ ml per.


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    Good info... thanks.

    My problem is I couldn't get air into the tire fast enough to push the tire bead out to give it a chance to seal... might have to try again with my non tubeless ready rims with other methods.

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  3. #3278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty_J View Post
    Good info... thanks.

    My problem is I couldn't get air into the tire fast enough to push the tire bead out to give it a chance to seal... might have to try again with my non tubeless ready rims with other methods.

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    Try leaving your tires inside out for a night.
    Also helps to have someone else to help push tire to make but seal.


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  4. #3279
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    Not the flashiest yt channel but unbiased and always on point and ahead of the curve. Worth a sub if youre considering an emtb



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  5. #3280
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    Shop gave me a demo for a few days. My mind is blown by this bike.

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  6. #3281
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    Buddy wants to sell me his Trek Rail 9.7

    -whats a good deal on this bike
    -should I buy it?

    I wasn't too e-curious until he's called me every week this year saying how amazing E biking is, and how it combines the best parts of moto, and MTB, which sounds to me like a really good time.

    Unfortunately I don't have time right now to do all the research before the offer expires, so I'm hoping someone here can set me straight,
    The whole human race is de evolving; it is due to birth control, smart people use birth control, and stupid people keep pooping out more stupid babies.

  7. #3282
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukonrider View Post
    Buddy wants to sell me his Trek Rail 9.7

    -whats a good deal on this bike
    -should I buy it?

    I wasn't too e-curious until he's called me every week this year saying how amazing E biking is, and how it combines the best parts of moto, and MTB, which sounds to me like a really good time.

    Unfortunately I don't have time right now to do all the research before the offer expires, so I'm hoping someone here can set me straight,
    Tough to say what a "good deal"is. Trek has retail pricing on the web. A 9.7 is pretty high level spec, The 7.0 I ordered is $8k Canadian and it's a lower spec than the 9.7.
    Yes buy it, absolutely the most fun I've ever had on a bicycle.

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  8. #3283
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    Theyve gone up in pricing this year. Still a good deal. Last year they were a standout. I think it was the rail 6 i was looking at. I think bosch's pricing on their new gen4 cx motor to bike companies was super competitive. Bosch equipped bikes seemed to be the best deal last year and the motor turned out to be really good. I kept bouncing between the trek rail and the cube 160. Rail looks sweet. Flip chip so ive seen people making them mullets, adding a 60mm stroke coil shock(makes it 156 travel) and long air shaft to the fork. If it fits you and its a good deal i'd say get it and dont sleep on a great deal

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  9. #3284
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    After doing some shopping yesterday and finding a remarkable dearth of available ebikes with good spec and modern geometry, I pulled the trigger on an XL Thok TK01 from Ridewill.it. I'd ordered a Givi topcase from them a couple years ago and knew they were legit. Price was right about $5k with shipping to the US, and seemed like a very fair deal. Got an email this AM saying they had to cancel my order because they can't ship Thok bikes outside of the EU. Damn! Well, in all my near paralysis-by-analysis yesterday, I did learn that I definitely want to look for the EP8 instead of the E8000 if I go with a Shimano motor. Before yesterday, I was in the "I'm 57 and retired; I'll have an e-bike eventually" camp, but now the hunt is on in earnest so I can open up some self-shuttling opportunities. Maybe Propain or Vitus will find a way to sell their e-range here early next year.

  10. #3285
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    After doing some shopping yesterday and finding a remarkable dearth of available ebikes with good spec and modern geometry, I pulled the trigger on an XL Thok TK01 from Ridewill.it. I'd ordered a Givi topcase from them a couple years ago and knew they were legit. Price was right about $5k with shipping to the US, and seemed like a very fair deal. Got an email this AM saying they had to cancel my order because they can't ship Thok bikes outside of the EU. Damn! Well, in all my near paralysis-by-analysis yesterday, I did learn that I definitely want to look for the EP8 instead of the E8000 if I go with a Shimano motor. Before yesterday, I was in the "I'm 57 and retired; I'll have an e-bike eventually" camp, but now the hunt is on in earnest so I can open up some self-shuttling opportunities. Maybe Propain or Vitus will find a way to sell their e-range here early next year.
    Damn! Thats too bad. Thats a screaming deal on a considerable bike. I think the tk01 is their new long travel bike with the ep8? Batteries have to ship by ground so i guess thats why its not available in N america. Same for vitus. I wouldnt expect them to be shipping here
    Looks like you were getting a size xl, and if thats the case and you're also considering bosch cx equipped bikes, id check out "Whyte" bikes. They have a us distributor and great bikes at a nice price. I hear the company is big on customer service and a lbs should be able to get one for you. Good to have lbs support wirh emtbs. The only thing keeping me away is they dont have great standover for my short inseam. Their new e180 is pretty sweet. A number of reviews on youtube

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  11. #3286
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    Yeah, the e180 is sweet and well regarded, but $2500 more than that TK01 with the same EP8. Also appears to be sold out. Back to that availability thing. I guess having a US distributor is key, as Whyte, Bulls, Canyon, Cube, Commencal, etc. are all selling bikes over here in N. America. I was hoping Propain (Ekano) or Vitus (E-Sommet) would follow suit, as they tick all the boxes but at a lower price point. Maybe they only look to be cheaper when you see the EU prices with the VAT lopped off? Ridewill.it quoted me a Jan. 12 delivery, so I figured it was coming by boat and I was GTG.

  12. #3287
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    Yeah, the e180 is sweet and well regarded, but $2500 more than that TK01 with the same EP8. Also appears to be sold out. Back to that availability thing. I guess having a US distributor is key, as Whyte, Bulls, Canyon, Cube, Commencal, etc. are all selling bikes over here in N. America. I was hoping Propain (Ekano) or Vitus (E-Sommet) would follow suit, as they tick all the boxes but at a lower price point. Maybe they only look to be cheaper when you see the EU prices with the VAT lopped off? Ridewill.it quoted me a Jan. 12 delivery, so I figured it was coming by boat and I was GTG.
    Youre in LA so that definitely puts a yt decoy in play. The yt mill is in california. Great bike and price and good service from yt north america, especislly if the yt mill is close. New bikes with the ep8 should be out soon. My e8000 died and got a run around dealing with shimano canada and a local shop without much eeb experience but yt north america stepped up and got me a warrantee motor relatively quick. The bike itself is awesome and if the ep8 is as improved as they say i'd have no problem getting back on that. Like new touring bindings, i want to wait a year before i commit to an ep8 equipped bike. I'm looking at a bosch gen4 cx equipped bike. Cube 160 seems to be the best deal out there. Im hoping to swing a nicolai but theyre a few extra $. I'm going to look into the pricing on the "niner" bikes too. The 180 mullet bike is really well sorted. Need to do more research on them and the price though

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  13. #3288
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    I posted over in the tight-pants thread before I found this one.

    Intense Tazer MX.

    I wasn't even thinking ebike, or pedal bike at all until I stopped into my local moto shop and they had one sitting on the floor. It blew my mind...

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    I'm fascinated by this thing and it may be what gets me back into push bikes for when I'm not on one of the motorcycles. Thoughts?

  14. #3289
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    Looks super fun for moto trails..,
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  15. #3290
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Looks super fun for moto trails..,
    Yah... and the fact that Intense is distributing those bikes through Parts Unlimited has them squarely focused on that set. I'm one.

    Though I already have two bikes for the moto trails...

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    Maybe it's splitting too fine a hair, in terms of rideable trails? Around here, there are quite a few areas with trails that are closed to motos, but open to e-bikes. National Forests are largely no-go to e-bikes unless it's a designated OHV area, with a few exceptions. So a weird mix of where one can and cannot ride...

  16. #3291
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuMexJoe View Post
    After doing some shopping yesterday and finding a remarkable dearth of available ebikes with good spec and modern geometry, I pulled the trigger on an XL Thok TK01 from Ridewill.it. I'd ordered a Givi topcase from them a couple years ago and knew they were legit. Price was right about $5k with shipping to the US, and seemed like a very fair deal. Got an email this AM saying they had to cancel my order because they can't ship Thok bikes outside of the EU. Damn! Well, in all my near paralysis-by-analysis yesterday, I did learn that I definitely want to look for the EP8 instead of the E8000 if I go with a Shimano motor. Before yesterday, I was in the "I'm 57 and retired; I'll have an e-bike eventually" camp, but now the hunt is on in earnest so I can open up some self-shuttling opportunities. Maybe Propain or Vitus will find a way to sell their e-range here early next year.
    While it's a bit more expensive I can tell you that my mid 50's self is having a ball with the one I have www.greyp.com

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