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    I put an offer in on a work place which has new white tile floor on it. Looks like a cheesy Italian barbershop. Anyone know if it's easy to rip out tile and replace with different tile? Or is it a fucking mess getting the adhesive off when you pull it up? Based on a neighboring room, I'm guessing concrete is under everything...beyond that I don't really know what I'm getting myself into. Or should I see if I can pour gypsum over the tiles to save time/money?

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    Tile sucks ass to take out but it sort of depends whether laborers are available in your local Home Depot parking lot.

    The level of suck depends in significant part on how well it was installed. If it is on cement board that was thinsetted onto plywood, good fucking luck.

    edit: Just read that you think it is on concrete. I would go out and get a bid before you pull the trigger on the new space if it is important to you. It's a lot of manual labor to take out tile that was installed on concrete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    I put an offer in on a work place which has new white tile floor on it. Looks like a cheesy Italian barbershop. Anyone know if it's easy to rip out tile and replace with different tile? Or is it a fucking mess getting the adhesive off when you pull it up? Based on a neighboring room, I'm guessing concrete is under everything...beyond that I don't really know what I'm getting myself into. Or should I see if I can pour gypsum over the tiles to save time/money?
    if it's on a concrete slab, just tear/scrape/lift it out...you'll only know when it's out

    new tile isn't cheap, but would work great as a replacement

    but if the slab is relatively clean & flat, you could do a number of other finishes:
    ground/polished concrete, paint, vinyl/linoleum, wood, carpet

    what is the work? office environment?
    or something that needs to take more of a pounding like a nail/massage place that might need to clean up before law enforcement raids?


    also, upper floor? or slab on grade (basement or first floor)?
    concrete can allow water vapor through from the dirt underneath...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RootSkier View Post
    Tile sucks ass to take out but it sort of depends whether laborers are available in your local Home Depot parking lot.
    That HD parking lot is walking distance and usually full of workers, ha. Good idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    if it's on a concrete slab, just tear/scrape/lift it out...you'll only know when it's out

    new tile isn't cheap, but would work great as a replacement

    but if the slab is relatively clean & flat, you could do a number of other finishes:
    ground/polished concrete, paint, vinyl/linoleum, wood, carpet

    what is the work? office environment?
    or something that needs to take more of a pounding like a nail/massage place that might need to clean up before law enforcement raids?


    also, upper floor? or slab on grade (basement or first floor)?
    concrete can allow water vapor through from the dirt underneath...
    it's ground floor with no basement. So no to gypsum over tile?

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    Assuming your sitting on a concrete slab; the tile might be set on a mortar bed in a small depression or just thinset on the finish floor. If it’s set in a depression on mortar, it will be a bitch to replace.

    You can rent a powered floor scraper


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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    That HD parking lot is walking distance and usually full of workers, ha. Good idea.



    it's ground floor with no basement. So no to gypsum over tile?
    I wouldn't recommend it, but for other reasons

    1) gypcrete is too soft to hold up as a commercial floor surface (it's really intended to be a leveling substrate, or conductive mass for radiant)
    2) i do not know definitively whether it will adhere well or not to tile, but it is an unconventional installation option and seems like it might be problematic


    the "wet" concrete comment was more about whether you end up laying another less resilient finish floor down (meaning susceptible to water damage issues)

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    It is a shitty job but it can be done. Tile is fairly permanent but styles and preference change. The "tear out all this slate" trend is well underway. Usually, removing the tile is the easy part. Removing the underlayment and thinset and the associated work to prep the floor is the hard part. See if you can find a spot where you can inspect the tile assembly and get back to me preferable with pictures.

    What it isn't is easy.

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    Thanks everyone. I'll try to remove a door threshold to take a peek.

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    re: thresholds
    any kind of overlay system could affect door hgts, so check those first before considering burying old finishes

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    Well, here is all I could see. I don't know shit about floors, but there seems like little room for much besides thinset and tile. Maybe there is room for a thin piece of something between the concrete and tile?

    Pics are the tile i don't like, a threshold area (white tile is on the right I want gone, one the left is real cheap looking fake floor made to look like wood), and a pic of concrete in the back I'm presuming is matching throughout the place. Concrete looks fairly new and really smooth/even.

    Kinda tempted to throw a massive colored rug over the white tile and call it good, especially if y'all think it would be a pain to remove.

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    put your artists to work on the floor & paint it custom?

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    You can paint glossy tile?

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    You own a tattoo parlor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    You can paint glossy tile?
    sure, might just need a specialty primer to make sure it stays stuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    You own a tattoo parlor?
    Free back tat next time you come to town?

    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    sure, might just need a specialty primer to make sure it stays stuck
    Interesting, thanks. That changes everything. A duller paint job, a nice rug....some better wall paint and I'm doing this 'remodel' cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    Interesting, thanks. That changes everything. A duller paint job, a nice rug....some better wall paint and I'm doing this 'remodel' cheap.
    Definitely update us if you follow through on this. If this works out I'd be very interested in replicating it on some tile I have in my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    Free back tat next time you come to town?
    I knew this was my lucky day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Definitely update us if you follow through on this. If this works out I'd be very interested in replicating it on I have some tile in my house.
    Will do. I've painted over stone tile backsplash before, but never thought it could be done on super glossy ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    I knew this was my lucky day.
    Maybe "MAGGOTS" across the upper back in gothic lettering?

    Anyone else want a free tat, you just gotta help paint the tiles, then it's free! Or a wall, your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post

    Maybe "MAGGOTS" across the upper back in gothic lettering?
    Or a picture of Splat's face between my shoulder blades, like Roger Stone and Nixon.

    Or both!

    wait, that would still count as 1 tattoo, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Or a picture of Splat's face between my shoulder blades, like Roger Stone and Nixon.

    Or both!

    wait, that would still count as 1 tattoo, right?
    Uh, sure. Might have to rush Splat's face but we can make this work

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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    Maybe "MAGGOTS" across the upper back in gothic lettering?
    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Or a picture of Splat's face between my shoulder blades, like Roger Stone and Nixon.

    Or both!

    wait, that would still count as 1 tattoo, right?
    this came up googling "maggot tattoo"...not first, but still...



    if anyone can pull it off, it's iceman

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    pull up the tile. have the concrete polished.
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    If I lived in WA, Oft would be my realtor. Seriously.

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