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Thread: Praxis Lhasa Pows?
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06-23-2018, 02:48 AM #76
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06-23-2018, 03:58 AM #77King potato
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As someone who wasnt around for the years of PM gear,
Could someone post up all the different dimensions for the models?
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06-23-2018, 06:39 AM #78
The 179/183 in standard and fat with modern early rise profiles would be cool.
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06-23-2018, 08:52 AM #79
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06-23-2018, 10:37 AM #80King potato
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06-23-2018, 08:14 PM #81Registered User
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115 under foot with a 32m radius. I skied that ski exclusively for a season. Loved that ski and wish I didn’t sell it to finance my 191FATS. Not like a really needed the funds. No issue with float, would get loose easily. Carve like a mofo. A 106 under foot 187Bro would be siiiiick!
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06-23-2018, 09:18 PM #82
My 2012 183 Bro Fat Hybrids are 112 underfoot and 32m radius, they fattened up a little in later versions.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120820...bro-fat-detail
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06-23-2018, 09:25 PM #83
I'm curious
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06-23-2018, 11:44 PM #84
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06-24-2018, 03:56 PM #85one-track mind
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06-24-2018, 04:10 PM #86
Why is 140-110-130 at about 186 actual length, little taper, little rocker, little camber, 9lbs a pair, kinda damp (wood and fiberglass, maybe no carbon or metal) not a thing?
Enforcer 110 comes close but it's really a 183 and it's probably not doing me any weight savings over the Q Labs.
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06-24-2018, 04:17 PM #87Registered User
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^ 186 Lhasa pow.
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06-24-2018, 06:03 PM #88one-track mind
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I think you're right that it's not a well-represented thing. But if you're mainly just wishing for a lighter-weight Q-Lab 190cm, then maybe the longer Enforcer 110 or a Rustler 11 might be kinda close:
190cm Q-Lab: ~11.1 lbs
191cm Enforcer 110: ~10.0 lbs
188cm Rustler 11: ~9.0 lbs
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06-24-2018, 09:13 PM #89
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06-24-2018, 09:35 PM #90
Lhasa too pintaily.
Didnt see a weight, but Lithic Prine 108?
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06-24-2018, 09:57 PM #91Registered User
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Those numbers up above don’t seem correct for the newer 186 Lhasa. Solar changed the dims a bit so it’s a semi pintail, more like the 191FAT. The older 186 Lhasa had mediocre firm conditions grip and wanted to slide where as the newer shape made it a much much better firm ski snow. Splat can chime with more information.
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06-24-2018, 11:40 PM #92glocal
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186 was most pintail shape, maybe 179 Lhasa was close as well. As the dims got stretched out into longer lengths, then adjusted for performance, the pintail lessened, the 191 Fat a prime example of shape tuning. I used to sand the tail side edges in half a mm just to feel the difference and it can be quite noticeable. I thought at first glance that the 186 Lhasa (it's LHasa, Benny, not Lasha) dims are the only Lhasa dims on that excel, but the same dims were on the 191 and the 196. Stretched out over 5 and 10 cm length increases, the pintail effect lessened dramatically. The 191 Fat got adjusted in the tail a couple times.
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06-25-2018, 01:15 AM #93
For some reason a ccr Lhasa speaks to me. Not sure how it would differ from a 4frnt hoji though.
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06-25-2018, 10:40 AM #94
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06-25-2018, 11:37 AM #97
Yeah. I own the 192 GPO and 191 Lhasa.
I will leave the layup / build out of my comparison. Too many variables.... I have owned both carbon and non-carbon GPOs; my Lhasa's are some franken-build - 192 BRO thick core, glass/carbon hybrid layup, old baby blue topsheet.
Focusing on shape:
Tip - Pretty similar shape.
Underfoot - The GPO has a little camber, the Lhasa is close to flat. Waist width are essentially the same.
Tail - GPO has a wider tail, clear radius from the waist to the tail, slightly more tail rocker. The Lhasa tail is basically straight / no radius from the waist, very low rocker.
What this translates too:
GPO is better on groomers and hardpack. It has more camber, tighter turn radius, more grip.
Lhasa is better on corn, mank, hot pow, slush. The pintail shape allows you to slash the tail around.
They both ski cold soft snow great, plenty of float, plenty of power to charge.
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06-25-2018, 12:11 PM #98
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06-25-2018, 12:35 PM #99
Prior to this year 191 Lhasa full carbon were my DD in the Wasatch. Went 192 carbon mix GPO’s this year. Great ski. Can t say better but shined in the cut up and soft groomer. Actually thought Lhasa better on hard snow.
Equal in da pow. My .02
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06-25-2018, 01:58 PM #100?
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I was thinking
If Praxis were to press a ski identical to the Lhasa pow in a 206 or 210
I would buy it.
Love my standard hybrid 196's But a 210 would be even betterOwn your fail. ~Jer~
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