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    Just trying to add some summer stoke

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    Tried searching...

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    I guess "the outdoors" but not many folks post there... padded room maybe? or the kayak sub? (no idea if the regulars there would be annoyed)

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    Yeah outdoors looked like all camping stuff but if its not too busy there maybe best place for it. Kayak/ fishing seemed too active for not very related content. Thanks!

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    That one could fit in one of the beer threads or maybe the view right now thread.

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    SailingAnarchy, lol?

    Where do you sail out of? My boat's in Oyster Bay and I couldn't help but notice the IPA. I think I remember you were in VT (I shipped you those useless Dynafit brakes), but let me know if you're in the Long Island Sound area and up to go sailing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkbrnblm View Post
    SailingAnarchy, lol?

    Where do you sail out of? My boat's in Oyster Bay and I couldn't help but notice the IPA. I think I remember you were in VT (I shipped you those useless Dynafit brakes), but let me know if you're in the Long Island Sound area and up to go sailing.
    You are kidding... I sail out of Oyster Bay.

    Yeah I’m between NYC and VT for the past 3 years. From VT originally. Permanent move back to VT planned for this fall (had enough of NYC). Bringing it up the Hudson this fall so I can enjoy Lake Champlain where I learned to sail. That shot is on City Island where my boat spent the winter. Launching on 6/2 and bringing it to OB. Moored right off Roosevelt Marina.

    I have an S2 7.3 (meters, ~24’). It came with the name ‘Escape’ and now more than ever it seems like a fit so I no longer plan to change it.

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    What’re you sailing?

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    Padded room has a number of similar threads, such as the Fore! golf thread, etc.

    Nice looking boat. I once owned a San Juan 23, mostly sailed on Hebgen Lake Montana, one memorable Yellowstone Lake trip, and a few years at Temple Bar Marina on Lake Mead. Good times!
    Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
    And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
    It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
    and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tye 1on View Post
    Padded room has a number of similar threads, such as the Fore! golf thread, etc.

    Nice looking boat. I once owned a San Juan 23, mostly sailed on Hebgen Lake Montana, one memorable Yellowstone Lake trip, and a few years at Temple Bar Marina on Lake Mead. Good times!
    I always thought I’d have a trailer sailer before a full keel. Bought this one under circumstances to which I couldn’t say no. It must be so cool to be able to hop around lakes. I’d still like to do that in VT. Got pretty comfortable on my dad’s Tartan 34C with a 5000lb keel. Stepping down to my own 1300lb keel and feeling the difference gives me some indications of just how ‘exciting’ a keel-less sailboat must feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tye 1on View Post
    Padded room has a number of similar threads, such as the Fore! golf thread, etc.

    Nice looking boat. I once owned a San Juan 23, mostly sailed on Hebgen Lake Montana, one memorable Yellowstone Lake trip, and a few years at Temple Bar Marina on Lake Mead. Good times!
    Wow, I want to hear the Yellowstone Lake story. Burly place to sail!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Wow, I want to hear the Yellowstone Lake story. Burly place to sail!
    You know that old saying "Wisdom comes from experience, and experience is often a result of a lack of wisdom"? So ya, maybe singlehanding in mid-October when you're the only boat on the lake wasn't my brightest idea...

    Camped in the boat on the hard the night before launching from Grant Village/West Thumb, on the west/lee side of the lake. Sweet sail down to the South Arm, where I anchored the first night. It was cold, but I was warm and dry belowdecks. Brewed up coffee, had some breakfast, went above to get some water for dishes (and/or drinking, the summer that I spent rangering on the lake I drank straight from the lake every day...). Set the pot on the deck and turned around to do something, the boat tilted slightly, splash, the pot slid off the deck which still had a layer of frost, and sunk to the bottom, a good 20+ feet down. Thought about diving for it, thought about 40* water and air temps and said fuck it. Spent a leisurely day sailing in the no-motor zones in the South and Southeast Arms, settled in to the SE Arm for night two.

    Leaving mid-morning, it took me a while to get up to the main part of the lake, and the winds were maybe 10-15 knots when I got out in to the open water. That was fine, and fun, full main and 115% jib. Then it piped up to, I dunno, 30-35kts? That was when it got a little spicy and another set of hands would have been huge. This was in probably 1997 or 98, so details are a bit fuzzy other than being gripped and jumping around like a scalded monkey.

    Put on my whitewater PFD, inflatable PFD over that, and tied a line around my waist in case I got tossed overboard. Also had my water-resistant NPS radio in the chest harness, although I was pretty sure the park had pulled their patrol boats out. The don't fuck up light was burning bright. Threw the sea anchor off the bow, dropped the main, moved forward to bring the headsail down (thinking how nice a roller furler would be). Tied the second reef in to the main. Raised the storm jib, raised the furled main, pulled the sea anchor, and spent a few hours beating (quite literally) in to the wind to get back to Grant. The Narrows sucked with steep and tightly spaced 4-5 foot waves, but I was making progress. Finally made it back to Grant and loaded one huge bowl.

    It was great enjoying the empty lake/park, listening to elk bugling, fish jumping and a whole lot of quiet. While it was the closest I ever got to getting my ass totally handed to me on a platter, I did learn a lot and realized my basic systems and knowledge were solid. The only sailing I'd done prior to purchasing that boat was on a Sunfish, so there was a bit of a learning curve. That was my only real 'close call' other than lightning on Lake Mead...do miss that boat!
    Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
    And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
    It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
    and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.

    Patterson Hood of the DBT's

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    I think we just rename this the sailing forum and problem solved. You lot are hardcore.

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    Good pics. Great story. Stick this bitch in the PR. Everything goes in the PR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tye 1on View Post
    You know that old saying "Wisdom comes from experience, and experience is often a result of a lack of wisdom"? So ya, maybe singlehanding in mid-October when you're the only boat on the lake wasn't my brightest idea...
    Being the only boat out on the lake can be a sign. But i suppose it also depends on knowledge of the area, and a risk I’ve gladly accepted with various consequences. I’ve had some amazing (and some quite challenging) times alone on Lake Champlain. Full moons, thick fog, pouring rain, low pressure.

    Did you even have an outboard on it? That has certainly helped me out of some potential jams. Twice in one trip on the boat upon which learned to sail, Northwind.

    Idahospud and I learned to sail together, more or less, on a boat we bought together, more or less. Between the launch and the mooring the previous owner showed us how to manipulate the few moving parts of a 26’ 1969 Chris Craft Capitan Sloop. But it wasn’t until much later that summer and fall when we really got the hang of it, by trial and error.

    When he made his move to Idaho, my dad bought the boat. But we wanted to take one last sail adventure to an island farther North than we had ever gone. The trip to Valcour Island was planned, Smuggler’s Cove our destination.

    The weather forecast was not great by the time the trip arrived but our window for it was small due to his leaving the state on a date certain. We figured we could just turn around if it got weird, but knew enough to start early. We may have even stayed on the boat the night before. We headed out early with hot dogs, baked beans, cheese, eggs, bacon and a not insignificant amount of beer.

    We planned a stop in Burlington for lunch and weather check. It takes at least 4 hours to make it to Burlington from Converse Bay, Charlotte under normal conditions (a 45 minute drive). We made it in 3. A ran steady on South wind past then Four Brothers when the weather behind us now appeared on top of us. As we came past Shelburne Bay the winds picked up and hard rain started. We jumped into foul weather gear and the waves to which we had been surfing parallel were now perpendicular as we made our way to the docks. 3’ white caps. For the first time giving me concerns about being able to stay on the boat as a still green sailor. Its design favors the large cockpit. Tiller steering. There wasn’t a lot keeping us in the boat.

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    We probably radioed for some assistance on the dock. We could barely keep it attached. Fenders out we slammed into it. We jumped out, soaking wet. The boat was slippery. The dock was slippery. We had two guys helping us to keep it secured but it just kept slamming in the dock. The boat heeled 20+ degrees from side to side as the waves bashed against the starboard side. The port side of the boat slammed against the dock. Lake Champlain is a long lake and runs more or less north/south. So when there is north or south wind the waves really pick up as the wind pushes them down or up the lake, building size and speed. We moved the boat to the other side of the dock and lashed then starboard side to the cleats in an effort to protect it from the force of the waves. It was about as much excitement as we had had sailing to that point.

    We went to Skinny Pancake for beer and crepes. If you had asked us then whether we were completing the trip we’d have laughed. But we finished our crepes and worked on second pints at the lake view windows we could see the sun trying to break through. The rain had more or less stopped. It still looked breezy but before long the UVM sailing team was out training. How could we miss this opportunity? Idahospud was heading west. List was our last chance for an unknown period of time. We had to go once the weather appeared to welcome us back out. Maybe it was daring us. We grabbed two more six packs and headed back to the boat. Not fully absorbing that the UVM sailing team was staying well within the breakwater.

    We hoped back on that South wind and we ran. The hullspeed of that boat is 6 knots. The knot log on the boat didnt work, but we measured 13 knots over ground. We were surfing down 6’ swells. Winds were 25+ but that was just from weather radio as we didnt have any real instruments on this boat. It was exciting for a period but then it felt downright scary. Certainly more adventure than I had bargained for. I was grateful and so glad we headed back out. We started to feel in control and settled. For the first time sailing I put on a PFD, our sailing to that point made us feel that the boat could handle anything and that we were invincible. Winds were slowing building above 30, gusting to 40. We avoided a huge dark rain cloud on the West side of the lake and made it toward Valcour. Making better time than we had even imagined. We were looking for a red bouy and about a quarter mile from the island. All of the sudden the gusts of 40+ and 6’ swells forced the boat off course, and we jibed hard, wind accidentally crossing the stern.

    The sound was pretty alarming. I worried for then structural integrity of the top of cabin mast and rigging. Whether the boom was damaged. A small tear appeared 4’ from the top of the mainsail. As i rushed to downhaul, the tear went from 3” to 1’ to 3 ‘ all the way across the sail. The hanked on headsail was taking way too much force, pushing the bow under water. Idahospud opened the lazarette and started the motor. I uncleated the headsail halyard and made my way to the bow to pull it down as the bow dipped and jumped 10’. Not an easy task. The wind had a profound effect on the boat even with sails down. Shocked, we motored 15 minutes to Smuggler’s Cove. The weather was too choppy for us to safely anchor. Its small, surrounded by rocks and was unprotected at the time. We headed for the next cove and settled down. Opened a beer. Physically and mentally exhausted we laid in the cockpit. Soaking wet. Not 30 minutes later weather passed. Some ducks swam up to the boat. We opened another beer and made dinner. Winds were late reported to be 40+, gusting to 50.

    We woke up to blue skies. The sun warmed us as we made breakfast, still physically exhausted from the strain of taking down the sails, steering the boat, and hanging on. We knew heading south would be less enjoyable without the headsail, but it was a beautiful day and the lake was glass. We even boiled hot dogs in the cockpit on a car camping stove as we departed Valcour. After motoring out of the cove we put up our only sail and headed south. Lunch cooking as we relaxed in the cock pit.

    By the time we got back to Burlington the winds were back to 20+. Not having a main sail made it difficult to spill unwanted wind. As gusts of 30+ hit us, the bow pushed toward the waterline. We didn’t want to motor back, but as we beat into the still south wind tacking back and forth we were making little progress. In order to advance at all we had to close haul, very close. This result in a lot of force on the boat, resulting in a lot of heel on our 1800lb keel. I made the call to switch to motor despite his protests. As I tried to take down the head sail, every point of sail was as difficult as the others. The motor helped marginally. The wind was pulling it up away from me and the boat pitched and heel. I was able to pull it down halfway and jump into the hatch, using my weight to pull it down the rest of the way. Muscles and clothes torn, I was at least as tired as the night before. Mentally we were again exhausted. When we got back to converse bay we napped without even opening a beer.

    A truly proper send off for Idahospud. Without a motor in these instances, I’m not sure how fondly I would look back on this trip. Learned (from more than just this experience) to reef early. As it becomes quite difficult to do so when it’s necessary. Figuring out the purpose of some ‘extra’ lines also helped.

    They say anyone can sail in 25-30 knot winds, but it takes a sailor to do it drunk. For some reason this philosophy was easier for me to undertake before I bought my own boat. Seltzer has been a fine substitute for all day effervescent refreshment. Orange vanilla tastes like a creamsicle.

    The app isn’t letting me post pictures right now. Will add them when possible...
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    Isn't there a boat porn thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Isn't there a boat porn thread?
    ya, but that has a heavy photo bias, where this forum may have some good stories to be told. Sort of like why there is [was?] both Penthouse and Penthouse Forums...
    Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
    And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
    It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
    and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.

    Patterson Hood of the DBT's

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    You might actually try a sailing forum website... https://sailingforums.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldMember View Post
    You might actually try a sailing forum website... https://sailingforums.com/
    way more doctors than dentists on those forums...
    Something about the wrinkle in your forehead tells me there's a fit about to get thrown
    And I never hear a single word you say when you tell me not to have my fun
    It's the same old shit that I ain't gonna take off anyone.
    and I never had a shortage of people tryin' to warn me about the dangers I pose to myself.

    Patterson Hood of the DBT's

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    You know that old saying "Wisdom comes from experience, and experience is often a result of a lack of wisdom"? So ya, maybe singlehanding in mid-October when you're the only boat on the lake wasn't my brightest idea...
    Yeah, been there, done that. We had a 25' boat that we first launched on Coeur d'Alene Lake in mid-April one year. No other boats around and we had to take it from the southern area of the lake to another bay about 15 miles to the north. Not being highly experienced, we were facing a wind out of the north that was blowing a pretty consistent 35-40 mph. Big swells, no other boats around, we were on the lake for eight hours before we finally made it to the other bay. It was hairy with big tacks all the way up. My wife was freaking out nearly the entire time. It was an eye-opener and experience maker. Prior to this boat, we had a 16' Hobie that I loved to sail in good wind but this was a different kind of sail for me. We sold that boat six years later and am still to this day, happy we got rid of it.

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    Put my dad’s boat in the water this weekend (not in #1, as this is from it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmoguls View Post
    Y It came with the name ‘Escape’ and now more than ever it seems like a fit so I no longer plan to change it.
    same here- my boat came with the name "Gypsy" which I thought was sort of bland and planned to change it, but then I decided I ought to get good at sailing it first (I feel like that should be the first renaming requirement). Abandoned the name I had in mind and decided to just add "Colorado" so now it's "Colorado Gypsy"- the authorities I consulted assured me no renaming ceremony was required to avoid the wrath of Poseidon (makes no sense to completely obliterate the name first when just adding to it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tele 'til You're Smelly View Post
    same here- my boat came with the name "Gypsy" which I thought was sort of bland and planned to change it, but then I decided I ought to get good at sailing it first (I feel like that should be the first renaming requirement). Abandoned the name I had in mind and decided to just add "Colorado" so now it's "Colorado Gypsy"- the authorities I consulted assured me no renaming ceremony was required to avoid the wrath of Poseidon (makes no sense to completely obliterate the name first when just adding to it).
    This is a great idea! I wonder if some ski / winter / mountain related terms will appear in my dreams for addition pre or post escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmoguls View Post
    This is a great idea! I wonder if some ski / winter / mountain related terms will appear in my dreams for addition pre or post escape.
    I have a buddy who re-named his "Avalanche," and its "registered" name on the boat is a local Colorado town, even though it's never seen Colorado and sails on the ocean. Good stuff . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvmoguls View Post
    You are kidding... I sail out of Oyster Bay.

    Yeah I’m between NYC and VT for the past 3 years. From VT originally. Permanent move back to VT planned for this fall (had enough of NYC). Bringing it up the Hudson this fall so I can enjoy Lake Champlain where I learned to sail. That shot is on City Island where my boat spent the winter. Launching on 6/2 and bringing it to OB. Moored right off Roosevelt Marina.

    I have an S2 7.3 (meters, ~24’). It came with the name ‘Escape’ and now more than ever it seems like a fit so I no longer plan to change it.

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    What’re you sailing?
    No way! I'm on a Beneteau First 477 out of Seawanhaka (wish it were mine, but it's technically my dad's boat). The boat just went in the water and has a while before it's ready to go sailing, but I'll PM you next time I'm going with friends and see if you're still around. The boat actually did the reverse of your plan... It started its life in Lake Champlain, and we brought it down through the locks to Oyster Bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrkbrnblm View Post
    No way! I'm on a Beneteau First 477 out of Seawanhaka (wish it were mine, but it's technically my dad's boat). The boat just went in the water and has a while before it's ready to go sailing, but I'll PM you next time I'm going with friends and see if you're still around. The boat actually did the reverse of your plan... It started its life in Lake Champlain, and we brought it down through the locks to Oyster Bay.
    Right on! That’s a big boat! Maybe we should change the name of this thread to “The Sailing On Our Dad’s Boat Thread” haha.

    The great thing about boats 30’ boats seem to spend an awful lot of time “getting ready” to sail. For example, my friend spends more time working on his Tartan 37 than sailing (to be fair, the past 5 years he has been preparing for a few year trip to the Caribbean). But when my Dad’s transmission blew under the throgs neck bridge on our first attempt up the Hudson (he bought it in Mamaroneck and we motored up the locks a few years back) it was $4000 and a three week delay. My entire boat cost less than that (though it was through a friend). Either way, compare a $4K transmission to the cost of a new 9hp outboard.

    So much less to go wrong on a little guy.

    Quick trip to San Fran / Yosemite June 7-12 then I’ll be sailing most weekends after that. Happy to have you aboard!
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    So much going on I wanted to bump this thread.

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    Such an amazing race on the IMOCA 60. Most of the fleet on foils. Problems galore. Broken carbon fiber abound. Alex Thompson broke the longitudinal beam in tropical storm theta. Now he is retiring due to a broken starboard rudder. Insta Alex_Thompson_Racing

    Linked Out is down to one foil after either hitting something or the carbon unwound itself due to the stress loads on the starboard foil. He is still in second place after jumping the fleet around the St Helena high. He sailed the shorter route.

    There is a group of 7 or so boats screaming down a line catching the lead 2 boats on the way to the cape of good hope. Sometimes running in the 20 plus knots boat speed. That is insane. 25 28 30 knots all possible in these boats.

    In addition the Jules Verne start was a couple of days ago and the super tri's should catch and pass the inocas somewhere in the southern ocean. Where dragons live.

    America's Cup in less than a months time in Auckland. 75 foot foiling yachts. 4 countries competing.

    Exciting times for sailors.

    Cheers

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