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  1. #26
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    Probably 99% of America has been logged at least once. Also, everyone should read 1491. You think everything was just unmaintained, undeveloped wilderness before the 15th century? Nope. A lot of it became that way, but that was because of smallpox.

    I've never heard of that publication but it and that kook should just be ignored.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Nobody is dusputing that our ancestors did a lot of harm to the land before us, but with the population growth, we continue to expand and destroy small parcels of wooded land piece by piece.

    Every trail we have built has dbl tracks running thru the middle of them. Stone walls, barbed wire, defunct old dams, and just steel litter is everywhere. But at that time, down the street didn't have a HD, Kohls, Dicks, CVS, and a couple hundred track homes either.

    The people not having kids are saving the world...kinda, sorta, maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Probably 99% of America has been logged at least once.
    Um, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grskier View Post
    Um, no.
    Too low? 99.9%?
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plugboots View Post
    And to add to that basically every trail I ride goes through land that had been logged at least once. The trail I ride almost every day, the Grand Ridge Trail in Issaquah, was not only logged, it was mined.
    When I lived in the Bay area I used to read about people who talked about Marin County and use the term “pristine”. This about land that it been logged at least twice.


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    This. The areas with active logging and/or reforestation have already been altered by human activity, and (should) have erosion controls etc in place are fairly hard to argue against. And most towns in the west have one (or a dozen) within riding distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Too low? 99.9%?
    Making up statistics to prove a point squashes the point, along with your credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    Vandeman was like tied with Scott Abraham for most awesome and tireless kook ever back in the Usenet days. I’m kind of surprised he’s still alive. I would have thought that the insane growth of mtb since the 90s would have killed him somehow.
    Dude, Abraham is STILL at it, or was the last time I checked r.s.a a few months ago. Fascinating really, would be an interesting psychological study of him and Vandeham.

  8. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by grskier View Post
    Making up statistics to prove a point squashes the point, along with your credibility.
    Maybe, but he's not far off.

    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

  9. #34
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    That was kinda what I figured.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

  10. #35
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    Please delete
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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