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  1. #2101
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_B View Post
    The fenced area excludes cows/sheep
    Obviously we don't have open grazing on the EC

    Sounds like a good place to not get hassled by the farm animals though. Unless you are into that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ::: ::: View Post
    And why does it make a difference if they camp there?
    Because…it’s designed to isolate an undisturbed area for study, protection, and/or restoration.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclosure

    City folk amuse me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    Because…it’s designed to isolate an undisturbed area for study, protection, and/or restoration.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclosure

    City folk amuse me.
    Hey your wiki link specifically says for protection of humans.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by krp8128 View Post
    Hey your wiki link specifically says for protection of humans.....
    Yeah…if you just read one line.

    Selective reader arguments amuse me. Especially from city folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    Yeah…if you just read one line.

    Selective reader arguments amuse me. Especially from city folk.
    Sorry, my data connection in the wilderness is spotty. Couldn't get the wiki on Backcountry camping to load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krp8128 View Post
    Sorry, my data connection in the wilderness is spotty. Couldn't get the wiki on Backcountry camping to load.
    Well, to be fair, like you wrote earlier, those folks probably needed protection from cattle and/or horses. Dangerous stuff.

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    The cattle probably needed protection from them. Whatever it was they were hunting, not so much.

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    So, this particular allotment is a grazing allotment for a short period of time in the summer since it’s an elk calving ground in the spring. There is only livestock there after July 1 to the end of August. The livestock are gone before archery season starts so there are no livestock up there now.

    Yes, as MS stated, the range enclosures are to protect small sections of ground from being disturbed, even by humans. Annual forage collections will be done inside & outside of the enclosure to study and monitor the forage, climate impacts, wildlife and livestock use & plant selection, etc. That’s the short answer.

    It matters that they camped in it because they’ve made it a campsite - had a campfire, disturbed all of the plants and grasses, set up a couple of tents, etc, and left toilet paper strewn about. I am amused by the camping part, but what is it with more and more people these days doing the complete opposite of “leave no trace” and who takes shit that close to their camp?

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    My dog attacks bees, hornets, wasps, etc.

    He knows what they are and that they’ll sting him, and rather than make him steer clear it pisses him off. He attacks and then shakes his head for the next few minutes.

    I shudder to think what would happen if he encountered a nest. That would not be amusing, I suspect.
    focus.

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    Also had no idea what a range enclosure was, and Google didn't help.


    But fuck leaving a trace while camping. I get how some trampled grasses will fuck with your science, but anything more is simply unacceptable.

    Toilet paper??

    Not a hunter, but those guys give hunters a bad name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post

    Yes, as MS stated, the range enclosures are to protect small sections of ground from being disturbed, even by humans. Annual forage collections will be done inside & outside of the enclosure to study and monitor the forage, climate impacts, wildlife and livestock use & plant selection, etc. That’s the short answer.
    Ammon Bundy and his pals will put a stop to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post
    …and who takes shit that close to their camp?
    They were scared to go outside the protection zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper View Post
    They were scared to go outside the protection zone.
    Got a more full report this morning.

    They must believe in the power of the protection zone, there was no indication of proper food storage in bear country.

    They were parked in brand new 4 runners at the trailhead from UT
    They all looked like they had just walked out of "The Modern Huntsman," and would not be surprised to see a blog someplace about their hunting experience in the backcountry of Idaho. Apparently, they were tall and very attractive, like models for a photo shoot.
    The last comment this morning was "Let me put it this way, I would not go hunting with them."

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    Mens Journal doing a hunting story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post
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    The Branch Covidian Shuttle has seen better days.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post
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    Hell ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel View Post
    Mens Journal doing a hunting story?
    Manly men doing manly things in manly places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Our part time nanny /babysitter, who is a feminist studies major, showed up today without a bra. Power to the ladies! Can I get an Amen?

    No I will not post pics.


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    My buddie's mom has dementia and we are discussing and he says she has a full time aide to help her out. A couple of weeks later I am at a party and see this hot young Slavic looking minx with low cut blouse and nice shorts mixed in with a bunch of old people friends. I ask him who TF's daughter is that. It's his mom's aide. I'm like for reals? Seems like a possible penthouse forum, but this guy is a soon to be 60 YO virgin. Did not even seem to think of what could be, apparently. My mind was racing. Added her to the rotation that night

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    Quote Originally Posted by plugboots View Post
    Buster with the Polynesian joke in his pocket, waiting, waiting, waiting…for the moment to strike.
    Ha, i was thinking the same exact thing. Such patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    The Branch Covidian Shuttle has seen better days.
    That would fit right in in Jamaica VT. It's a bit over the top for Londonderry.
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    That would fit right in in Jamaica VT. It's a bit over the top for Londonderry.
    Ya, I have no idea what goes on down there in North Massachusetts, south of US 4.

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    Trying to apply for a vaccine passport in France for an upcoming 24 hour layover. The website has an option for English or French but choosing English only translates about 25% of the page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    Trying to apply for a vaccine passport in France for an upcoming 24 hour layover. The website has an option for English or French but choosing English only translates about 25% of the page.
    PM if you need help, I just helped Ms Boissal do hers yesterday.
    "Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by JongDoe View Post
    My buddie's mom has dementia and we are discussing and he says she has a full time aide to help her out. A couple of weeks later I am at a party and see this hot young Slavic looking minx with low cut blouse and nice shorts mixed in with a bunch of old people friends. I ask him who TF's daughter is that. It's his mom's aide. I'm like for reals? Seems like a possible penthouse forum, but this guy is a soon to be 60 YO virgin. Did not even seem to think of what could be, apparently. My mind was racing. Added her to the rotation that night
    Sounds like this story needs further elaboration. Perhaps accompanied w a heavy base line soundtrack. Bow chicka wow wow

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