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  1. #5001
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    Considering a Honda, but would never buy a chrysler. Sienna is the only one with AWD.

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    thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by 406 View Post
    Considering a Honda, but would never buy a chrysler. Sienna is the only one with AWD.
    Eh, what are you really going to use the awd for? I run my Ody with snows in NH (plenty of ice/hills) and it does fine as it's so heavy. AWD reduces the area available for cargo, so there's way less space available for things like the stow and go seating or the spare under the floor.
    I cross shopped the Sienna when I bought mine and it was softer and less refined than the Ody. And that was before the new generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
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    1995 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER
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    12/17/2002
    Empire Ford
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    04/17/2003
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    Quote Originally Posted by schuss View Post
    Eh, what are you really going to use the awd for?
    CA had silly chain control rules, they will make 2wd put chains on dry pavement if they think there might be snow. I have a double cab 4x4 taco, but was thinking in 10 years might need the extra space. Or if we move someplace with winter, wife has 0 experience driving in snow.

    GTK about less storage with AWD. I'm not really excited about any of the options or dealing with car salesman. Wife is leaning more toward minivan and I was thinking midsize suv. But I did rent a Sienna for a week long mountain bike trip last year and thought it was nice. I'm guessing toyota will update and maybe hybrid the Sienna 2021, but not sure we can wait that long. She does want to test drive the pacifica hybrid, her friend has one. I told I would rather spend 60k on a volvo plugin hybrid than 40k chrysler and she told me I don't need 400 hp :-) Although I am seeing some used pacifica hybrid for 30k and it is a "LEMON LAW BUYBACK/BRANDED TITLE"

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    Makes sense, forgot about the silly chain controls.

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    Can you run this? About to put down a deposit

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    2009 TOYOTA 4RUNNER SR5/SPORT EDITION
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    4.0L V6 F DOHC 24V
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    AutoNation Toyota Scion Tempe
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    CobbleStone Auto Spa & Quick Lube
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    Pep Boys
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    06/05/2014
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    12/27/2014
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    Big O Store# 004223
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    I saw this last night in my little backwoods town in Wisconsin. Somebody must have been lost...

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    My office sits on the bench by a freeway entrance so I get to hear then warch the Porsches & other exotics monster from a roll to 100. The GT3 RSs are so freaking loud, you can hear them a mile down the freeway. McLarens almost sound like errplanes. Firing order is just a little longer for the exotics vs. motoconchos.

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    Thanks Bobby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 406 View Post
    CA had silly chain control rules, they will make 2wd put chains on dry pavement if they think there might be snow. I have a double cab 4x4 taco, but was thinking in 10 years might need the extra space. Or if we move someplace with winter, wife has 0 experience driving in snow.

    GTK about less storage with AWD. I'm not really excited about any of the options or dealing with car salesman. Wife is leaning more toward minivan and I was thinking midsize suv. But I did rent a Sienna for a week long mountain bike trip last year and thought it was nice. I'm guessing toyota will update and maybe hybrid the Sienna 2021, but not sure we can wait that long. She does want to test drive the pacifica hybrid, her friend has one. I told I would rather spend 60k on a volvo plugin hybrid than 40k chrysler and she told me I don't need 400 hp :-) Although I am seeing some used pacifica hybrid for 30k and it is a "LEMON LAW BUYBACK/BRANDED TITLE"
    Hey, the Sienna is fucking dope as an AWD travel rig. Your bike can go inside with the wheel off. It goes up mountain canyons under chain control conditions. You already have the Taco for trips when you need to do some real-deal 4 wheeling to get to the camp site or trail head. You are definitely thinking about this the right way.

    You need to consider older models than 2018, and you need to consider the XLE or limited. I assume you are considering kid-hauling capability? They ruin cloth seats so fucking fast. You want the leather that you can wipe clean. If this is a grown-up-oriented adventure-wagon then the cloth is fine and so is the LE. If your child or potential child is so young that you don't know this yet, and you are waffling on the van, let me set you straight: you want the van. Even if you don't have any kids and just have a bunch of sweet skis and mountain bikes: you still want the van.

    As was mentioned upthread, the Sienna hasn't had a serious refresh since 2010/2011. And that drivetrain dates back to 2008, which was partway through the production run of the 2nd-gen. The V6 with the timing chain requires very little maintenance and can easily go 300k+ miles. So why pay for a recent one when you can shop for a good older model? The car isn't any different in meaningful ways.

    One thing to check: the power sliding doors are a known point of failure and are a bitch to fix when they break. The current generation tends to be better on this, but check that shit out and read up on it before you buy.

    Good luck.

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    I put an awd decal on my sienna and run snows (in CA) in winter and AT tires in summer. Cal trans and CHP never bat an eye. My power door stopped working last year (2006 model year). I removed the cable. It is a manual operation now. My door check in the driver side also broke, which is another know issue. There were recalls for both of those problems that were never addressed in time (by previous owner).

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    Bobby can you editorialize the cars the users are chasing. More fun that way
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    No need for a carfax, BS, but interested in your thoughts on the value of the deal I am being offered on this: 1C4RJFCG5KC843774

    Wife's company has a corporate deal with Jeep that gets us 2% under invoice. Add in customer loyalty cash & other incentives totaling ~$7500 (it's a fairly premium 2019 that they seem to want to move), and it brings us down from a sticker of $53,235 to $42,294. Seems like a pretty damn good deal to me, as we were initially looking at a Limited with many less features that they seemed less motivated to deal on that would actually cost us more to buy. Hell, I paid $42 for less of a jeep 12 years ago. Seems like a damn good deal, or am I missing something obvious?

    Appreciate any thoughts/insights you'd care to share.
    Going where the wind don't blow so strange
    Maybe on some high cold mountain range

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    Does this used carfax lot work for Canadian vehicles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgb@etree View Post
    No need for a carfax, BS, but interested in your thoughts on the value of the deal I am being offered on this: 1C4RJFCG5KC843774

    Wife's company has a corporate deal with Jeep that gets us 2% under invoice. Add in customer loyalty cash & other incentives totaling ~$7500 (it's a fairly premium 2019 that they seem to want to move), and it brings us down from a sticker of $53,235 to $42,294. Seems like a pretty damn good deal to me, as we were initially looking at a Limited with many less features that they seemed less motivated to deal on that would actually cost us more to buy. Hell, I paid $42 for less of a jeep 12 years ago. Seems like a damn good deal, or am I missing something obvious?

    Appreciate any thoughts/insights you'd care to share.
    $42K for a jeep just because it's got some luxo bits. What in the fucking fuck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    $42K for a jeep just because it's got some luxo bits. What in the fucking fuck?
    Ha! I was gonna say: it's a Jeep...so it's not a good deal.
    It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSinister View Post
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    I saw this last night in my little backwoods town in Wisconsin. Somebody must have been lost...
    where you at? I still have property up der 'eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSinister View Post
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    I saw this last night in my little backwoods town in Wisconsin. Somebody must have been lost...
    there's a white one of those and a green one in my neighborhood, not a fan of the green.
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    Ha! I was gonna say: it's a Jeep...so it's not a good deal.
    I hear ya - sorta - but I've owned 4 grand cherokees and my experience with them has been great. Had a 94 Ltd that got into an accident in 98. It had 115k largely trouble free miles before the accident. Insurance paid to have it fixed, but I sold since they had to straighten the frame. Replaced it with a 98 5.9 Ltd that was stolen after 6 months. Replaced that with a 98 TSI that I owned for ~10 years, 175k miles. I traded that to splat and as of last year he was still driving it, 20 years after it rolled off the assembly line. That got replaced with an 07 Ltd that's about to roll 200k. Everything still works, but it's getting worn and showing its age cosmetically. We're actually keeping it for a train car as it is still under warranty (lifetime).

    So the question wasn't really about ones willingness to spend north of 40k on a jeep being a good idea, but rather if the 11k off sticker is a solid deal based on the experience of someone who sells cars
    Going where the wind don't blow so strange
    Maybe on some high cold mountain range

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