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  1. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    LVS BillyGoat hookup rules:

    -If you're a Jong, don't bother trying to scoop an established mag.
    -if you wish to fast track un-Jonging yourself, visit your local BBI franchise or make sure to spend the bulk of your posting ski stoke, trip reports and pleas to ullr. If you have a thousand posts in gearswap but have never posted ski stoke, you're still a Jong.
    -sellers may give BillyGoats to whomever is most worthy, not whoever says "dibs".
    -prospective buyers should post in here desired length, layup and model year. Additionally buyers should provide BSL.
    -speaking of bsl, don't be that dipshit who drills a ski 4x, rendering it useless. If a set of BillyGoats won't work with your bsl with redrilling a third or fourth time, maybe wait until a pair that does comes along. Have some respect for the goats.

    Speaking of which, BillyGoats should only be mounted with Look Pivot/FKS or Salomon Driver bindings. If you plan on mounting them with marker royal family or tyrolia peak bindings, a severe and swift punishment, to be determined by the larger community will be dealt upon you. (And, I know those are the best demo bindings, so ON3P gets a pass.)
    I'm mounting adrenalin 16's on my SG's.
    Are we gonna have problems?

  2. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    LVS BillyGoat hookup rules:

    -If you're a Jong, don't bother trying to scoop an established mag.
    -if you wish to fast track un-Jonging yourself, visit your local BBI franchise or make sure to spend the bulk of your posting ski stoke, trip reports and pleas to ullr. If you have a thousand posts in gearswap but have never posted ski stoke, you're still a Jong.
    -sellers may give BillyGoats to whomever is most worthy, not whoever says "dibs".
    -prospective buyers should post in here desired length, layup and model year. Additionally buyers should provide BSL.
    -speaking of bsl, don't be that dipshit who drills a ski 4x, rendering it useless. If a set of BillyGoats won't work with your bsl with redrilling a third or fourth time, maybe wait until a pair that does comes along. Have some respect for the goats.

    Speaking of which, BillyGoats should only be mounted with Look Pivot/FKS or Salomon Driver bindings. If you plan on mounting them with marker royal family or tyrolia peak bindings, a severe and swift punishment, to be determined by the larger community will be dealt upon you. (And, I know those are the best demo bindings, so ON3P gets a pass.)
    So if a Jong sells a BG to a mag does that contribute towards un-jonging? This is all very confusing.


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  3. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by bskin View Post
    So if a Jong sells a BG to a mag does that contribute towards un-jonging? This is all very confusing.
    I could see this happening. You holding?

  4. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by CascadeLuke View Post
    I could see this happening. You holding?
    No, un-jonging is not as important as BGing, least to me, but might be useful to other jongs looking for the fast track to magness.


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  5. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by bskin View Post
    No, un-jonging is not as important as BGing,

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    I mean...props for integrity. Not sure of integrity contributes to your un-jonging, but your priorities are in order at least.
    wait!!!! waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait...Wait!
    Zoolander wasn't a documentary?

  6. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by SupreChicken View Post
    I mean...props for integrity. Not sure of integrity contributes to your un-jonging, but your priorities are in order at least.
    I live in AK my priorities are sorted


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  7. #232
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    Quote Originally Posted by bskin View Post
    I live in AK my priorities are sorted


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    Did you ski those 191 wrens yet? Those things are fast AF. Missiles really, that still have enough tip rocker for a slight ease of turn initiation. If you like those a ton, you might like the stiff Supergoats. The deeper the snow, SG’s will get a lot more surfy and slashy. They just need a similar speed to Wrens, and then they come alive like no other. Most skis this burly and more traditional sidecut skis cannot surf like Supergoats can in deep pow. Supergoats can surf and are “snappy” in their ability to change direction, like a full rocker ski, or like a softer ski (K2 Obsethed). Except Supergoats are significantly faster everywhere besides deep moguls (moguls deep enough to be un-straight-line-able).

    Those wrens I sold you still work well in steep and deep though, they just carve a bit more, instead of surf. Just hit the gas pedal. They like slightly more speed than SG’s in deep, but then they float very well. Right up their with 191 Katanas, which I actually rate very good float.

    That being said, the newer Wren 108s are amazing too. I dont know how a ski could get any more predicable. Predictability equals fun IME. It allows me to try new airs on the hill. W108s seem to do everything well. So far, they seem to be as good as Praxis Rx, and K2 Shreditor 112s (ends of flex spectrum) in terms of versatility, in skis I have tried. One ski quiver type skis that almost excel across the board.

    Next year, anyone who picks up a set of wrens (pick your poison, 96/108/114), and a set of BG/SG/C&D’s, should have an amazingly versatile, directional inbounds charging 2 ski quiver.


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  8. #233
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Did you ski those 191 wrens yet? Those things are fast AF. Missiles really, that still have enough tip rocker for a slight ease of turn initiation. If you like those a ton, you might like the stiff Supergoats. The deeper the snow, SG’s will get a lot more surfy and slashy. They just need a similar speed to Wrens, and then they come alive like no other. Most skis this burly and more traditional sidecut skis cannot surf like Supergoats can in deep pow. Supergoats can surf and are “snappy” in their ability to change direction, like a full rocker ski, or like a softer ski (K2 Obsethed). Except Supergoats are significantly faster everywhere besides deep moguls (moguls deep enough to be un-straight-line-able).

    Those wrens I sold you still work well in steep and deep though, they just carve a bit more, instead of surf. Just hit the gas pedal. They like slightly more speed than SG’s in deep, but then they float very well. Right up their with 191 Katanas, which I actually rate very good float.

    That being said, the newer Wren 108s are amazing too. I dont know how a ski could get any more predicable. Predictability equals fun IME. It allows me to try new airs on the hill. W108s seem to do everything well. So far, they seem to be as good as Praxis Rx, and K2 Shreditor 112s (ends of flex spectrum) in terms of versatility, in skis I have tried. One ski quiver type skis that almost excel across the board.

    Next year, anyone who picks up a set of wrens (pick your poison, 96/108/114), and a set of BG/SG/C&D’s, should have an amazingly versatile, directional inbounds charging 2 ski quiver.


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    Haven’t been able to get them on snow yet, can’t wait though. They’ll get a lot more work next season for sure. Planning a couple Heli trips so that will be fun.


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  9. #234
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    Praxis Rx
    I’ve seen this so many times I’m legit thinking of getting a pair


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  10. #235
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    Anyone want to see if Elon Musk will put a pair in space? Given the demand? Plus Big Sky Brewing would already have a beer to commemorate!
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  11. #236
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    Changing boots. BG’s mounted once with Pivots with little room for adjustment..

    Do I sell BG’s or remount?


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  12. #237
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    Test new boots first. It’s 50/50 they’ll work with the existing mount IME.

  13. #238
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    Test new boots first. It’s 50/50 they’ll work with the existing mount IME.
    Going from 315mm BSL to 326mm. In pivots. Idk if they’ll fit


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  14. #239
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    only one way to find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Going from 315mm BSL to 326mm. In pivots. Idk if they’ll fit


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    Pivots are 5 mm at best any more starts to effect release
    also width for heel dropping in if moving down.
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35

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  16. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    Pivots are 5 mm at best any more starts to effect release
    also width for heel dropping in if moving down.
    Therefore since I’m 310 you have to consider me first
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35

    2021/2022 (13/15)

  17. #242
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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    Pivots are 5 mm at best any more starts to effect release
    also width for heel dropping in if moving down.
    Also would move the midsole position back 1.1cm correct?

    Even if bindings fit, I don’t wanna be 1cm back on RES. I have heard it’s not the best idea.




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  18. #243
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    My bsl is 316, send them to me for a direct comparo to the SG.

  19. #244
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    FS: 191 Billygoats

    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Also would move the midsole position back 1.1cm correct?

    Even if bindings fit, I don’t wanna be 1cm back on RES. I have heard it’s not the best idea.




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    Yeah first pair tech mounted -1 by accident. So squirrelly. Got new pair and remounted
    It’s one that has to be on the line
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


    Thanks BCSAR and POWMOW Ski Patrol for rescues

    8, 17, 13, 18, 16, 18, 20, 19, 16, 24, 32, 35

    2021/2022 (13/15)

  20. #245
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    Just realized my SG and C&D’s all have the same issue.


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  21. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Just realized my SG and C&D’s all have the same issue.


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    oh snap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Also would move the midsole position back 1.1cm correct?
    incorrect.

    1.1/2= 0.55cm back if the toe stays put. 0.5cm = YER DOOMED.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

  23. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    incorrect.

    1.1/2= 0.55cm back if the toe stays put. 0.5cm = YER DOOMED.
    that's where mine are mounted

    AEVER YUR GUNNA DIE!

  24. #249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Just realized my SG and C&D’s all have the same issue.


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    The driver???

  25. #250
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Just realized my SG and C&D’s all have the same issue.


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    I will evaluate the C&D's as well.

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