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    FS: 191 Billygoats

    I am a tall, heavy guy. I also have a 325BSL....and possess some bacon.

    Just some food for thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by smartyiak View Post
    I am a tall, heavy guy. I also have a 325BSL....and possess some bacon.

    Just some food for thought.


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    post count checks out

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    I'mma go out on a limb here and state that the max rider weight for these is about 185 lb, if you ski fast and flex skis.

    Clydes complain about these pushing, and they should be on SuperGoats.

    Skinnies use these as proper hovercraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
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    FS: 191 Billygoats

    So I’m guessing I had a bit of a hard time with the 189 demo goats — they felt pretty large and in charge, and I normally like long skis— at BBI because they had a funky tune? Or my legs were shot? Or perhaps it was the lunch beer? I’m 5’7’’ and weighed 190ish, I think I ski fairly fast. Too $hort? 189 dynastar Protos felt a ton more nimble by comparison

    I own and enjoy 196 Rens, 194 Devs, 193 MVPs, 189 Protos etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Clydes complain about these pushing, and they should be on SuperGoats.
    Hey now! I resemble that remark.

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    FS: 191 Billygoats

    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    So I’m guessing I had a bit of a hard time with the 189 demo goats — they felt pretty large and in charge, and I normally like long skis— at BBI because they had a funky tune? Or my legs were shot? Or perhaps it was the lunch beer? I’m 5’7’’ and weighed 190ish, I think I ski fairly fast. Too $hort? 189 dynastar Protos felt a ton more nimble by comparison

    I own and enjoy 196 Rens, 194 Devs, 193 MVPs, 189 Protos etc
    The 189 got stiffened in the tip, from what I hear. Helps to keep it from plowing in lighter density pow., maybe less pronounced rocker, others more knowledgeable than I can chime in. That’s the only place I had the effect happen on my 191’s. They killed it in heavy snow and chop. Some were suggesting the plow effect is from technique but since I ski protest and another more upright/centered’ish balanced style ski, it definitely was not technique, esp since I played with my stance to try to alleviate it to no avail.

    Someone buy these skis, they rip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    So I’m guessing I had a bit of a hard time with the 189 demo goats — they felt pretty large and in charge, and I normally like long skis— at BBI because they had a funky tune? Or my legs were shot? Or perhaps it was the lunch beer? I’m 5’7’’ and weighed 190ish, I think I ski fairly fast. Too $hort? 189 dynastar Protos felt a ton more nimble by comparison

    I own and enjoy 196 Rens, 194 Devs, 193 MVPs, 189 Protos etc
    I think it depends a bunch on the terrain and type of snow conditions you are skiing most often. Alpental is pretty specific animal in that regard. These skis will absolutely charge, they are super damp, and heavy, they are very capable at speed, and they really shine when pow/hot pow turns to chop. IMO, they are great If you are skiing at areas where everything is fallline and gravity fed with a minimum of traversing.

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    I had 189 goat and sold it in favor of my 2014 186 which I love. It felt very different and not as centered if that makes sense. I had it out on a variable day and went back to car and got 186. I also did not really like assemetry.

    But 191 is likely perfect for 190-200 lb guys and I’m only 175. I have 192 protest and 189 toons which are just easier. I am tempted by new C & D but assemetry concerns me. Maybe I can demo with super chicken or someone else in the PNW since I love baker and always wanted to hit Stevens or Alpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whyturn View Post
    I had 189 goat and sold it in favor of my 2014 186 which I love. It felt very different and not as centered if that makes sense. I had it out on a variable day and went back to car and got 186. I also did not really like assemetry.

    But 191 is likely perfect for 190-200 lb guys and I’m only 175. I have 192 protest and 189 toons which are just easier. I am tempted by new C & D but assemetry concerns me. Maybe I can demo with super chicken or someone else in the PNW since I love baker and always wanted to hit Stevens or Alpy.
    I’m one of the Clydes Norse is talking about. 195 nekkid, sorry for the visual, and agree this ski is for the slightly lighter guys. I felt right at home on 1.5stiff SG’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    So I’m guessing I had a bit of a hard time with the 189 demo goats — they felt pretty large and in charge, and I normally like long skis— at BBI because they had a funky tune? Or my legs were shot? Or perhaps it was the lunch beer?
    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    The 189 got stiffened in the tip, from what I hear. Helps to keep it from plowing in lighter density pow., maybe less pronounced rocker, others more knowledgeable than I can chime in. That’s the only place I had the effect happen on my 191’s. They killed it in heavy snow and chop. Some were suggesting the plow effect is from technique but since I ski protest and another more upright/centered’ish balanced style ski, it definitely was not technique, esp since I played with my stance to try to alleviate it to no avail.
    I bought a pair of 189s in March. You are correct, they are a much bigger ski and stiffer all around than older models (I had a pair of 186 10/11 BGs). Standing on end, the 189 is 1-2cm longer than my 190 Lotus. I have to drive these harder and with more traditional technique than old BGs until higher speeds, but they are on autopilot and require less input once up to speed. Haven't experienced the plowing effect on the new pair. I believe the 189 has a longer effective edge than the 191 because of the asym geometry too...
    Last edited by thefortrees; 09-06-2019 at 01:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefortrees View Post
    ACH - sorry to snake your potential sale, but there's a guy selling 191s with bindings for $275 on the PNW Ski Classifieds Facebook group ...
    Those aren’t the good ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Those aren’t the good ones
    Theyre good for specific things though haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Those aren’t the good ones
    shitty bindings too

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    FS: 191 Billygoats

    Quote Originally Posted by thefortrees View Post
    Sorry

    All good in the hood.
    Last edited by 2FUNKY; 09-06-2019 at 01:18 PM.

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    Poor judgement on my part, sorry all. Wasn't trying to ruffle feathers, just trying to add some relevant info to the thread. I deleted the link to said post.

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    ^^^
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    Goat mob gettin hot in the collar, am I gonna hafta kick somebody's ass?

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    Norseforcement in the house.

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    What size/model for 250lbs of stoke and cig smoke?

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    Aeverflex

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    Mmmm I love my goats

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirVicSmasher View Post
    What size/model for 250lbs of stoke and cig smoke?
    Super-d00per-goats


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