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03-07-2018, 05:59 PM #51
Where did I say I required a blanket lifetime warranty?
You're missing my point about not wanting to deal with a EUR company and that the SC warranty is better than anyone else's warranty on carbon which makes it a solid consideration. Not to mention the price is decent, more than Light Bicycle but that's dealing w/Ghina
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03-07-2018, 06:14 PM #52Banned
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You're still missing the point. People are saying the warranty is the main reason to buy Santa Cruz wheels. I say it's a huge red flag.
Ooops.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/santa-...irst-ride.html
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There was one small snafu that happened after only a few shuttle runs on the Nomad — I cracked the rear rim. Yes, that brand new Santa Cruz Reserve carbon rim met its untimely demise when I came up a foot short on a stepdown, smacking the rear wheel squarely into one of the cedar logs that formed the backside of the landing. Time to make use of that lifetime warranty and 24-hour turnaround... The incident was fully user error, and I'm sure that there would have been some sort of damage even if I'd been on an aluminum rim. Santa Cruz has since sent out a replacement, and I'll be putting this one to the test over the coming months in order to see how it holds up.Last edited by Jonny Snow; 03-07-2018 at 07:06 PM.
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03-07-2018, 07:15 PM #53
Everything breaks. Aluminum rims break and are cheaper to replace. Carbon rims break and are expensive to replace. Anyone who says their rims/wheels are indestructible is lying.
Having a generous warranty/replacement policy indicates that a manufacturer stands behind their product and expects a low enough failure rate, and reduces the financial risk associated with buying something super-expensive that's subject to continuous impact.
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03-07-2018, 07:21 PM #54
This thread is proving one thing. Jonny is not understanding anyone but himself.
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03-07-2018, 07:30 PM #55
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03-07-2018, 07:33 PM #56Banned
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03-08-2018, 01:52 AM #58
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03-08-2018, 11:12 AM #59Banned
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03-08-2018, 10:05 PM #60
I would argue that 50grams on a rim isn't something to ignore. Thats the difference of a high quality carbon rim (knight composites Enduro) vs a high quality light aluminum (Stans Flow MK3). I would also add that the aluminum rim at that weight probably should have another 20 grams metal on it for added durability but people wanted it lighter so they make it way. I find the ride difference is very noticeable climbing and descending but Im fucking slow with either of them so it really doesn't matter.
I am not saying this is what we should have on all our bikes. Personally I wouldn't pay retail for any of them for any of my bikes but there are people with more disposable income than me out there.... so yeah what were were saying about dentists?a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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03-08-2018, 11:54 PM #61
At 50gm, this becomes another Empty Beer debate.
If you have the means, get yourself whatever fucking wheelset your heart desires and get on with it. It'll be nice. It won't make you better, but it might make you more smug. Especially online.However many are in a shit ton.
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03-09-2018, 07:11 AM #62
I'm just here to say I bought a set of Enve m60 on 240s with tires I want (2.5 DHF / 2.4 MK) for $700. Hardly used by a pro rider, as they were her back-up wheels
And they are fkn awesome.
I'm just here to gloat.
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03-09-2018, 07:38 AM #63
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03-11-2018, 04:51 PM #64
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03-11-2018, 04:57 PM #65Banned
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Last edited by Jonny Snow; 03-12-2018 at 05:58 PM.
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03-12-2018, 05:18 PM #66
Just thought I’d throw out an alternative. I’m on the E13 TRSr SL Carbon wheels and love them. I’ve beat the crap out of them last year and they are still perfect. E13 now has lifetime warranty on all carbon wheels and rims as well, and their carbon wheels can be found at a few online retailers for under $1300 (I paid $1275 from Worldwide). PB just did a good review on the TRSr SL’s too. And if it matters Gwin rides E13 carbon!!! Ha.
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03-13-2018, 04:51 PM #67
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03-14-2018, 12:10 PM #68Banned
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03-14-2018, 12:12 PM #69Banned
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03-14-2018, 04:51 PM #70
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03-15-2018, 09:31 AM #71
Yes, you sometimes make good points. But you're a dick about it too. You turn it in to a fight where anyone who doesn't come around to your point of view is just plain wrong. He asked for advice and suggestion so that he could pursue his frivolous dreams of spending too much money on a sport for people with cash to spare. You gave him a tireless debate and tried to convince the world that spending $500 on wheels is more noble than spending $1000 on wheels when we all know you can do just fine with $200 wheels.
However many are in a shit ton.
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03-15-2018, 09:41 AM #72Banned
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My personal opinion is that you get into diminishing returns above around $500, which is my current benchmark wheelset of a custom Hope/Stans setup with butted spokes and alloy nipples. IF you want to spend more, the money is better spent on hubs like CK's or 240s. There are two exceptions to this:
- You need a stiff 29er wheel 30mm internal with a rim less than 500g, then go carbon
- You need a 35mm or greater plus bike rim under 500g, then go carbonLast edited by Jonny Snow; 03-15-2018 at 12:39 PM.
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03-15-2018, 01:10 PM #73
Aren't you the guy claiming Arch EX's (XC rim) is beefy enough for trail riding and comparing them to 450-500g carbon rims designed for enduro racing?
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03-16-2018, 06:53 PM #74
Came in here to post that Ibis 741s was the best bike related thing I have ever purchased. Running them last year or so on my Knolly Warden Carbon. Finished the last stage on an enduro race with a dead flat rear tire basically riding the bare rim through a scree field for over a mile. They make really fucking good wheels.
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03-16-2018, 08:01 PM #75
E13 builds their own hubs. 6 degrees of engagement and nice and loud like I9 (personal preference but I like the sound).
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