will armed teachers destroy the us educational system

[digitaldeath]

Maybe go make another thread?

maybe get some original content

you know

synthesize your own thoughts like i do

[digitaldeath]

school shooters already die or get locked up, nobody escapes

[Bobby Stainless]

maybe get some original content

you know

synthesize your own thoughts like i do

Is that code for make 6 threads about the same thing?

[Timberridge]

What's next, arming ski patrollers and instructors?

[Bobby Stainless]

Keep AR-15's legal to buy. Ban anyone that wants to buy one as mentally ineligible. Everybody is happy and pissed at the same time.

Or move them to class 3 status. No one has used a NFA item in a mass shooting. Probably due to the buying requirements.

[that dude who did that thing]

school shooters already die or get locked up, nobody escapes

Yes, we want everyone to think of schools as places where people go to die.

[digitaldeath]

Is that code for make 6 threads about the same thing?

again

get some original ideas

[Vt-Freeheel]

Next time you fly try to pick out the Sky Marshall.

[digitaldeath]

Next time you fly try to pick out the Sky Marshall.

easy

thats like spotting cops at the gym

[MultiVerse]

Or move them to class 3 status. No one has used a NFA item in a mass shooting. Probably due to the buying requirements.

It's not a bad idea. Even though it's a nonstarter because of 2A slippery slope arguments, we sort of already have a system (no background check for muzzleloaders, NFA for machine guns) that could support something like this:

Class 1 – muzzleloaders, black powder, and cartridge repeaters .22 cal and lower

Class 2 – revolvers, repeating rifles and shotguns, semi-automatics with fixed round magazines

Class 3 – semi-automatics with removable magazines

[bovine]

I'm a school teacher. I've taught upper elementary for the past 17 years.

The U.S. is brimming with guns. They're out there and as far as passing legislation to limit guns or the ability of people to get them, I don't think it'll do much. If a nut-case wants to obtain guns, they're available one way or another.

A school is one of the few places where there are no guns. If someone is thinking, "gee, where can I go to kill of bunch of people who are pretty concentrated in a small area?- how 'bout a school." Even in churches, many people conceal carry handguns.

I'm not an advocate of teachers carrying sidearms. We're already too damn busy dealing with kids, admin, parents, schedules, grading.... The job to protect people is the job of the police. We already pay them to sit on the side of the road with a radar gun in one hand and a f@cking donut in the other. I feel we need to get them into the schools.

How about if the local or state police set up a highly trained counter-school shooter swat team. Their sole job is to work in schools. They create a rotating schedule so that two are in a school at all times during the school day. They wear kevlar vests, are highly trained, and highly armed so that if/when a situation happens, they respond with deadly force.

The problem, IMO, is that people in schools are sitting ducks to anyone who wants to come in and kill them. There is no defense and potential shooters know this, there is nothing to dissuade them from entering a school and killing people.

The mentality needs to change from being reactive to being proactive. The next school shooting headline I'd like to see is, " School Shooter Eliminated from Earth by School's Police Force-All Kids Safe".

[KQ]

How about we build police stations adjacent/connected to schools?

[Pukesno]

How about we build police stations adjacent/connected to schools?

17 of the last 22 High Schools built in the Greater LA areas, were constructed with LAPD Sub Stations and have their own Police Dept.
https://achieve.lausd.net/laspd#spn-content

[old goat]

I'm a school teacher. I've taught upper elementary for the past 17 years.

The U.S. is brimming with guns. They're out there and as far as passing legislation to limit guns or the ability of people to get them, I don't think it'll do much. If a nut-case wants to obtain guns, they're available one way or another.

A school is one of the few places where there are no guns. If someone is thinking, "gee, where can I go to kill of bunch of people who are pretty concentrated in a small area?- how 'bout a school." Even in churches, many people conceal carry handguns.

I'm not an advocate of teachers carrying sidearms. We're already too damn busy dealing with kids, admin, parents, schedules, grading.... The job to protect people is the job of the police. We already pay them to sit on the side of the road with a radar gun in one hand and a f@cking donut in the other. I feel we need to get them into the schools.

How about if the local or state police set up a highly trained counter-school shooter swat team. Their sole job is to work in schools. They create a rotating schedule so that two are in a school at all times during the school day. They wear kevlar vests, are highly trained, and highly armed so that if/when a situation happens, they respond with deadly force.

The problem, IMO, is that people in schools are sitting ducks to anyone who wants to come in and kill them. There is no defense and potential shooters know this, there is nothing to dissuade them from entering a school and killing people.

The mentality needs to change from being reactive to being proactive. The next school shooting headline I'd like to see is, " School Shooter Eliminated from Earth by School's Police Force-All Kids Safe".

If we had unlimited funds to spend on LE this might make sense. We do not, and as terrible and common as school shootings are the chances of any particular school experiencing one is stil extremely small. There are better ways to use law enforcement and to protect children--red flag laws being the most obvious. Banning semiauto weapons--yes it will take a while to get them out of the system but the sooner we start the sooner they'll be gone. (This is my son's solution--an AF officer who qualified expert on the range.)

Putting a couple of trigger happy SWAT members in a school sounds like a good way to get a kid with a cellphone shot. And we've already learned that having an armed guard at the Florida school didn't stop the shooter.

The solution to too many guns is not more guns. To think otherwise is crazy.

[that dude who did that thing]

I'm a school teacher. I've taught upper elementary for the past 17 years.

The U.S. is brimming with guns. They're out there and as far as passing legislation to limit guns or the ability of people to get them, I don't think it'll do much. If a nut-case wants to obtain guns, they're available one way or another.

A school is one of the few places where there are no guns. If someone is thinking, "gee, where can I go to kill of bunch of people who are pretty concentrated in a small area?- how 'bout a school." Even in churches, many people conceal carry handguns.

I'm not an advocate of teachers carrying sidearms. We're already too damn busy dealing with kids, admin, parents, schedules, grading.... The job to protect people is the job of the police. We already pay them to sit on the side of the road with a radar gun in one hand and a f@cking donut in the other. I feel we need to get them into the schools.

How about if the local or state police set up a highly trained counter-school shooter swat team. Their sole job is to work in schools. They create a rotating schedule so that two are in a school at all times during the school day. They wear kevlar vests, are highly trained, and highly armed so that if/when a situation happens, they respond with deadly force.

The problem, IMO, is that people in schools are sitting ducks to anyone who wants to come in and kill them. There is no defense and potential shooters know this, there is nothing to dissuade them from entering a school and killing people.

The mentality needs to change from being reactive to being proactive. The next school shooting headline I'd like to see is, " School Shooter Eliminated from Earth by School's Police Force-All Kids Safe".

The tens of thousands of highly trained troops at Ft. Hood think your comment may be a little off the mark. The numerous armed cops that have been killed in numerous mass shootings, think your comment is off the mark. The school resource officer at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, who stood outside the school and did NOTHING, thinks your comment is off the mark.

I agree we should improve school security, but we should ALSO and with greater urgency address the root problems: too many guns, too easily accessible, too difficult to track, and very hard to take away from those who shouldn't have them.

[XXX-er]

What's next, arming ski patrollers and instructors?

I think we need to arm yoga instructors

but I'm not sure where they will CCW?

[TheSilverSurfer]

The armed deputy at the school in Florida did not enter the school to attempt to engage the shooter. He has now resigned.

[Soups]

The armed deputy at the school in Florida did not enter the school to attempt to engage the shooter. He has now resigned.

Why wasn't he already inside?

[yeahman]

I don't know about arming teachers with guns, but when I taught high school I sometimes wished I had at least a big can of bear spray in my desk drawer. A couple of those kids were downright scary. Look into their eyes when they are sitting in class and you can tell they are unstable if not totally psycho. I could definitely picture a couple of them shooting up a classroom. Anybody who has taught HS knows what I'm talking about.

With guns so pervasive in this country it only makes sense to give schools some means of defense. One resource officer who might be on the other side of the building really isn't enough IMO. Sad it has come to this.

[Kinnikinnick]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sun-s...story,amp.html

Well we don’t just need armed, trained professionals, we need combat ready armed trained professionals. Cops apparently won’t cut it, we need soldiers in schools. Probably with AR -15s themselves so that their not outgunned


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[cmcrawfo]

Gun control is the clear answer here, ignore it all you want.

'Murica is not so unique when it comes the social plight of the marginalized sicko.

But it is unique in access to firearms.

[KQ]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sun-s...story,amp.html

Well we don’t just need armed, trained professionals, we need combat ready armed trained professionals. Cops apparently won’t cut it, we need soldiers in schools. Probably with AR -15s themselves so that their not outgunned

The National Guard! What could possibly go wrong?

[ichibaneye]

ps. they do not educate children they indoctrinate them. The system is now mostly based on socialist/communist modeled systems, at college its even worse. The education system has been BROKEN for decades. Why do you think Kennedy wanted to dismantle it among many other poisonous agencies. Food for though indeed.

Garden Valley has had armed teachers/staff for over 5 years or more now. This is based on the fact that the closest law enforcement is 45 minutes away. The children still graduate just the same as before the protection.

It's up to individuals to defend themselves first. The averaged response time for police in the U.S. is 10 minutes. Waiting to be saved is not a smart choice no matter the response time. CYA is the way to go. Be prepared, be aware and keep that head on a constant swivel. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

[MTT]

Next time you fly try to pick out the Sky Marshall.

The guy sitting next to me?

[digitaldeath]

ps. they do not educate children they indoctrinate them. The system is now mostly based on socialist/communist modeled systems, at college its even worse. The education system has been BROKEN for decades. Why do you think Kennedy wanted to dismantle it among many other poisonous agencies. Food for though indeed.

Garden Valley has had armed teachers/staff for over 5 years or more now. This is based on the fact that the closest law enforcement is 45 minutes away. The children still graduate just the same as before the protection.

It's up to individuals to defend themselves first. The averaged response time for police in the U.S. is 10 minutes. Waiting to be saved is not a smart choice no matter the response time. CYA is the way to go. Be prepared, be aware and keep that head on a constant swivel. Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.

Wait to be saved from what exactly? What college you from, or should I say what country do you hail from ?