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02-21-2018, 08:17 AM #76
Isn’t that called CrossFit?
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02-21-2018, 08:31 AM #77
That is an incredibly small minority of the .mil world. Overall .mil pay is not so hot. A typical Army Specialist (E-4) makes about $28K per year at the 4 year mark. Sure there are allowances sometimes for deployment, hazardous duty, special skills, housing, etc... benefits are relatively good compared to most low paying jobs. But let's not pretend that most military are well paid.
Originally Posted by blurred
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02-21-2018, 09:25 AM #78Registered User
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02-21-2018, 09:39 AM #79
well after that experience every other job ive done has been a cake walk and knowing no matter how fucked up that day or job
or boss is
it aint green weenie in der poopenhausen fucked up
and you can go all
and there aint shit they can really do
so much like being a ski or hudge flyfishing bum
im rich bitch"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
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02-21-2018, 09:41 AM #80Registered User
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thats ^^ 15 bucks an hr ish not huge money but compared to a job at the mall or convienence store for someone with no education not so bad
I was just remembering drinking beer with an anesthetist from Alberta, he told us they get more money in that province for operating on obese people he told it like " so punch height & weight into a calculator, if its over 36 ... yeah baby we got a Bimmer ! "Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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02-21-2018, 09:41 AM #81
i am not familiar with military stuff, but don't they get health insurance, housing subsidies (or even straight up housing), education (tech, trade, professional), pension/retirement for time served, and mini perks like access to discounted home/car insurance, car loans, etc
isn't that why people enlist? because the military takes care of you
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02-21-2018, 09:47 AM #82
Active duty yes you get health insurance. You get base housing (which comes with military housing rules, dorm/bunk living, and inspections) free or a limited housing stipend. You get limited education benefits (GI bill after). Pension/retirement you ONLY get it with 20+ years of service (leave at 18 years and you get NOTHING, and plenty of opportunity to be forced out).
VA housing loans are a limited thing... but a difficult to impossible thing in any desirable market (many hoops to jump through and many sellers won't accept because of the long lead time when there is a line of no-strings cash offers).
Insurance is USAA, a private company, that offers rates to military and descendants of USAA members, no not a government or strictly military benefit.
All of this in exchange for being told where you will live (literally, they can just decide to station you in Alaska or Saudi Arabia because "needs of the military"), what you will do, usually working much longer hours than civilians, and maybe you get to die/get maimed for your country.
Military service is a sacrifice. Of course there must be a carrot along with it, but don't go pretending the carrot provides enough compensation alone for the sacrifice of most. That is why vets deserve respect because they willing gave more than they got (sometimes infinitely more).
The "green weenie" that @skifishbum mentioned is real. (I never served but I come from a multigenerational military family, work with vets, and have many friends who served).Originally Posted by blurred
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02-21-2018, 09:48 AM #83
i ate shrooms and watched red dawn
never do that again"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
"I have posted in here but haven't read it carefully with my trusty PoliAsshat antenna on."-DipshitDanno
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02-21-2018, 09:51 AM #84
so your just telling us about cutting bait but ya never fished
rodger that lamo charlies
brah"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
"I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
"THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -ski on in eternal peace
"I have posted in here but haven't read it carefully with my trusty PoliAsshat antenna on."-DipshitDanno
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02-21-2018, 09:53 AM #85
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02-21-2018, 09:56 AM #86
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02-21-2018, 10:06 AM #87“I have a responsibility to not be intimidated and bullied by low life losers who abuse what little power is granted to them as ski patrollers.”
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02-21-2018, 10:10 AM #88
The experiences you hear of can be all over the map. Much of comes down to attitude. That's first and foremost what determines of how awful or awesome an enlistment can be. Then there's where you're stationed. That's huge. In the Navy? Whether you're stationed in Pearl Harbor or Newark makes a HUDGE difference. In the Air Force? You could get something fun like Japan, Germany, or Hawaii, or you could be stuck in freaking Minot, Altus, or some other God forsaken place. Again, though, your experiences are what you make of them. I tried to check cool stuff out no matter where I went. Then there's the TDY assignments you'd get. Many get burnt out from doing tour after tour after tour in the ME. That does suck. Some get Guam for a few months to do some chill duty. Some bases are total dumps. Some are all nice and revamped like Charleston or Ramstein. Some squadrons I worked with were full of whiney buttholes. Some were totally well oiled machines with cool peeps all the way around like mine was. SSSOOOOOOO many variables that make the military experience a good or a bad one. Personally, I look back on my years with great fondness. Sure, lots of sucky times with insane hours, total exhaustion, emergencies, combat zone fun, and sweating my nards off in the ME, but overall it kicked ass. Would do it again in a heartbeat. I've even thought about reenlisting, but I think I'm past the age they'd let me back in now. That and my expenses are too high now to support my family on a military paycheck. FML.
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02-21-2018, 10:20 AM #89
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02-21-2018, 10:24 AM #90
Fat people are easier to hit with bullets.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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02-21-2018, 10:59 AM #91
i think mandatory enlistment is the way. it would keep us out of wars. the all volunteer army gets sent into action when a mandatory enlist force wouldn't because j q public's child would be on line.
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02-21-2018, 11:08 AM #92
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02-21-2018, 11:32 AM #93
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02-21-2018, 11:40 AM #94
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02-21-2018, 11:41 AM #95
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02-21-2018, 11:44 AM #96
So you want the draft to come back... like 1940-1973?
WWII
Korea
Laos
Lebanon
Thailand
Bay of Pigs
Vietnam
Dominican Republic
Bolivia
Cambodia
The vast majority of US military casualties occurred during the time when the US has had the draft.
You want to rely on compelled service and risk to generate political pressure not to engage in conflict. And what are you going to do with an extra 2.5 million soldiers? (2.5 million = 25% of the population 18-19 year olds (fit for service assuming 2 year stints)? Who is going to pay for them? And what about the 7.5 million who are unfit for service?
Why not rely on existing political sentiments and the requirement that people be willing to sign on to serve?Originally Posted by blurred
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02-21-2018, 11:46 AM #97
What about only drafting fat people? Anyone with BMI less than 25 is 4F.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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02-21-2018, 11:54 AM #98
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02-21-2018, 12:00 PM #99
Top 4 deadliest wars:
WWII
WWI
Vietnam
Korea
All had a draft. (I didn't mention the Civil War... but draft there too).
Drafts don't prevent wars.Originally Posted by blurred
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02-21-2018, 12:13 PM #100
Nam was stopped largely due to the draft. Kids get really pissed when classmates are dying for no reason. I really find interesting is that the only war you listed that we won was the one where Congress declared a war. WWII. There is a lot less profit in war when it is one declared by congress. All of those pesky profiteering laws kick in. From what I see, we are a nation formed by was born with war an now warring nation that sells death across the globe as a business model.
A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.
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