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  1. #126
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    Ode to the DPS Lotus 138 (and Volant Spatula)

    Thanks, NM. Betel can ski very well in difficult conditions. Everyone can technically ski more better.

    It’s often a beater fest in the well-traveled backcountry here in NE, at least in the spring when I’ve been out there. Lots of dudes rockin sick touring gear who blow at skiing IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    Lots of dudes rockin sick touring gear who blow at skiing IMO.
    NE gots nuthin on the Mazamas, Mountaineers or lots of TAYsters.

    Do they sport their breeding gaiters in the spring or fall?
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    Different strokes same old strokes.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    BC JONG and Good Skier aren't mutually exclusive. Just figured it was a good opportunity to post the link.

    And yeah, shiny gear often conceals gapertude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Different strokes same old strokes.
    The black ones lost their mate sadly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Different strokes same old strokes.
    DPS are the reason you are da best?


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    Ode to the DPS Lotus 138 (and Volant Spatula)

    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    BC JONG and Good Skier aren't mutually exclusive. Just figured it was a good opportunity to post the link.

    And yeah, shiny gear often conceals gapertude.
    Hear ya, appreciate it, I was just trying to make the point that some doods should ski more in the resort before gettin out there for the Instagram shots. At least betel doesn’t have that problem!

    For example, if the chutes at Jay Peak would eat you up, do you really belong at Tuckerman’s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    DPS are the reason you are da best?
    No. I have more DPS skis than anyone I know. I think we have at least 12 pairs in our house.
    And mofro is a better skier than I am; d00d fucking rips.

    I console myself with my superior age.
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    Ode to the DPS Lotus 138 (and Volant Spatula)

    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    No. I have more DPS skis than anyone I know. I think we have at least 11 pairs in our house. And mofro is a better skier than I am; d00d fucking rips. I console myself with my age.
    I have heard mofro rips. Cant wait get to BBI and get put into place (probably middle of the pack among TGR xpert skiers)


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    I only have one pair of touring skis, kusala mounted w dynafits. Not really a RR ski but kind of. I like them, give up a bit on the skin track in tight kick turns but that may be my technique.

    Thinking when the Lhasa/praxis fats roll in I may mount them up to tour...or remount my GPO. Just to get a more flat tail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    I have heard mofro rips. Cant wait get to BBI and get put into place (probably middle of the pack among TGR “experts”)


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    Padawan, assume not the linearity of adoration. The stars spin, some closer, some further, but none can compare to one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    NE gots nuthin on the Mazamas, Mountaineers or lots of TAYsters.

    Do they sport their breeding gaiters in the spring or fall?
    Multiple outfits for maximum ‘Gram-age

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Padawan, assume not the linearity of adoration. The stars spin, some closer, some further, but none can compare to one another.
    I’m really going there for the stoke, and to have fun.


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    I'm with bodywhomper - L138 is a killer touring ski to have in your quiver if you can justify it. It's not for massive vert days, not for skimo, not for steep skintracks on ice, but for so many other days it's so damn good

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    Jezus fuck this went sideways for a bit (to be expected on TGR, but still...) Moar R/R stoke, please and thank you.

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    That's a lot to read...

    Anyway, adimmen has been touring on 138s for over a decade. Still his go to touring ski.

    My 138s are mounted with Tectons and I love to tour in them if I don't need the lightness or edge of something more traditional.

    138s grip extremely well on the uphill and sidehill well. Rarely is track width a concern. Skin drag is a concern for some.
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    You can tour on big ski, no problems. It makes you strong! My good day touring ski and avarage day touring ski. Click image for larger version. 

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    I guess others' experience with fatties in the skin track has been different from mine. Even with my 120s I've found that they don't fit into established skin tracks sometimes.
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Ode to the DPS Lotus 138 (and Volant Spatula)

    Ya there are some opposing views on touring on super fat and powder specific skis. Which is to be expected. I’ll have to find out which camp I fall into.


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    It's entirely possible the 138 won't be the widest ski on the track, if someone preceeded you with a ski with a tip wider than ~140 (which many modern pow touring skis are). The Helio 116 is actually 5mm wider than an R1 L138, which is kind of ironic.

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    ^ It seems to many on here focus on the dimension under foot and forget about the giant shovel on most skis when discussing the issue of R/R skis on the skin track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    ^ It seems to many on here focus on the dimension under foot and forget about the giant shovel on most skis when discussing the issue of R/R skis on the skin track.
    The drag directly at your feet combined with no flat section is the issue. A r/r ski does not track straight nor glide well in comparison to a more traditional shape.

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    I can see problems with ready skintracks. Where I live, it's quite rare to get to use ready skintrack on powder days. Opening track on big r/r skis is actually nice and easy. And you don't want to use big skis when it's not powder day.

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    Ode to the DPS Lotus 138 (and Volant Spatula)

    Quote Originally Posted by 1000-oaks View Post
    It's entirely possible the 138 won't be the widest ski on the track, if someone preceeded you with a ski with a tip wider than ~140 (which many modern pow touring skis are). The Helio 116 is actually 5mm wider than an R1 L138, which is kind of ironic.
    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    ^ It seems to many on here focus on the dimension under foot and forget about the giant shovel on most skis when discussing the issue of R/R skis on the skin track.
    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    The drag directly at your feet combined with no flat section is the issue. A r/r ski does not track straight nor glide well in comparison to a more traditional shape.
    Talking about skin track width and if a lotus 138 would have fitment issues in a skin track where a ski with a shovel well over the lotus set the track. I was just going by basic math but maybe real world use is different.

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    Whos holding? I WTB


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