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02-15-2018, 11:10 AM #26
Where does DB Tabla Rasa fit in this history scenerio?
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02-15-2018, 11:14 AM #27
Tabla Rasa was a post-Spatula and not a Reverse Reverse.... swallow tail flat camber traditional shape (but pretty straight) I think from what... 03? @Telekóptero had a pair
Originally Posted by blurred
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02-15-2018, 01:03 PM #28
I knew it was post Spat, but surely a step in the evolution of Lotus, no?
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02-15-2018, 01:18 PM #29
Never tried a reverse-reverse ski, sounds fun. Did some looking around.
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02-15-2018, 01:29 PM #30
An older thread with comparisons of the different generations of the Lotus 138 (rocker 0, r1, r2, r3.1, r3.2, etc):
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...-1-to-rocker-3
Versions of the 138 I no longer have:
1) The original 138 -- pointy tip, r0, white topsheet/black sidewall, 192cm -- but sold it a few years ago. Mount point was too far forward, tended to tip dive compared to other versions. OTOH, it cut through crust or windpack like a Spatula, but bigger.
2) Rocker 3.1 hybrid -- big tip splay, 192cm -- recently traded it for the Spurs. Great ski, but I preferred the other versions that I have (below).
Versions of the 138 I currently have:
1) R1, bamboo sidewall, white topsheet, 192cm -- mounted with demo track bindings, these sort of became my rock pow ski, and just won't die. Light, floaty, slashy fun.
2) R? (no idea), black sidewall, blue textured topsheet, labeled 200cm (though I thought these came in 202, not 200), pure. Lower rise tip splay than any of the other versions I've had or have. My favorite of all the 138s. 200cm length gives a little extra stability over the 192 versions, at nearly no tradeoff in maneuverability.
3) Spoon 150, 190cm, pure -- a 138 that went on an eating binge. Have only skied this a few times. Not sure it really adds anything to the 138 experience, other than being able to ski sideways really fast and being scary on groomers -- it is very very loose. I have not skied any of the spooned 138s or 120s, so don't have any comparison there.
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02-15-2018, 02:31 PM #31
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02-16-2018, 07:36 AM #32Unregistered User
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02-16-2018, 10:48 AM #33one-track mind
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Good catch. Maven's tip & tail definitely qualify as "hybrid/5-point".
Good catch. My wording was off. I was trying to say I knew frenchie built the 1st prototype in 2009, and then I know nothing about timing after that. I have zero notes about if & when more prototypes might have been built, or if & when a "proper" production batch ever happened.
As others responded, I think Tabla Rasa does NOT fit the "Reverse/Reverse" or "5-point" category for this thread. But I have old notes on them:
- 2003/04 DrakeBoinay Tabla Rasa flex3 186cm, Radius=44.5, 142-118-125 1800g
Then a slight refinement to width dimensions:
- 2004/05 DrakeBoinay Tabla Rasa flex3 186cm, Radius=47.5, 142-120-127 1800g (also came in flex2 or "medium")
I don't have any notes on possible drama/disputes, but at some point Goode Skis basically started pressing Drake's designs as their own, with exact same Tabla Rasa swallow-tail and everything:
- 2006/7 Goode "Monstro 120" 177cm, Radius=36.0, 141-117-125, was a blatant ripoff of Tabla Rasa.
- 2007/8 Goode Monstro 186cm, was a blatant ripoff of Tabla Rasa. (No point in displaying Goode's reported dimensions here, because Goode just lied on the numbers to make it appear to be not exactly the same as a Tabla Rasa.)
- 2008/9 Goode Monstro 186cm, was a blatant ripoff of Tabla Rasa.
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02-16-2018, 12:07 PM #34Registered User
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I got a couple pair of the red hybrid 120's and i noticed the S/N is 2011-xxxx
does that mean they are 2011?
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02-17-2018, 07:45 AM #36
Thanks for the motivational post
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I had some Spats that I gave to a snowboarder friend converting to skiing. I still see him around. He thinks skiing is stupid except for Spatulating which he love. I think I traded Natty for some weed.
I have some 190 Powder Boards. Interestingly, I think there primary purpose is something other than charging pow. They just dominate challenging conditions. Spring snows, bumps, shit fuck in the trees it just doesn't matter.
Weed cookies, Miller Lites, sunglasses, headbands and Powder Boards = Spring Skiing!!!
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02-17-2018, 08:35 PM #38
Forecast calling for 6-8” of mank by the morning. Definitely going R/R tomorrow - the only question is which flavor...
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02-17-2018, 08:49 PM #39
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02-18-2018, 06:16 AM #40one-track mind
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02-18-2018, 08:09 AM #41
Quick update from the field - opted for the originals. Stupid fun.
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02-18-2018, 10:36 AM #42
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02-18-2018, 10:37 AM #43
Thread of the week right here.
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02-18-2018, 01:07 PM #44
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02-18-2018, 06:20 PM #46
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02-18-2018, 06:23 PM #47
Saved my choicest clamps for the Protests - purple Star Wars!
I really like my Protests, but IMO, they don’t have that full on slarve mode when compared to spats or pows, or even 138s. They’re like a manual, 5 speed, awd, turbo diesel, euro wagon with traction control - plenty slidey with the right input and probably better for getting from A to B, but if you want to bust donuts in the lot, it’s more fun if you turn off the TC.
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02-18-2018, 09:14 PM #48
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02-18-2018, 09:48 PM #49
Just got my third pair of 138s. This pair is 202. Selling the 192s, pure with dukes if anyone wants them. Call it $300 + shipping or pickup in Tahoe.
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02-18-2018, 11:52 PM #50
Another strong believer here. I have r1's with tele bindings. They are my favorite touring ski.
Any of you regret taking them on a tour? I've been using mine since 2009 and usually have one regretful day per season that always involves substantial cold dust (8-12") on very hard crust mixed with high winds. It's always a interesting descent.
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