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    Goretex Vapor Barrier in Gloves

    I'm trying to figure out my glove / mitten situation. My hands run really cold at the resort, even on 30 deg sunny days my hands are cold.

    Right now I'm using some FTP gloves with 200g Breathfil (or whatever they call it) and sometimes I'll run liners underneath, but I still get cold - especially when I feel the wind cutting through the back of the gloves. I was thinking about getting their 300g mittens (and I might still), but I'm wondering if anyone runs gloves/mittens with a vapor barrier and high humidity inside the glove.

    Does this work? It seems like it would but I'd like some first HAND accounts and preferably some suggestions too. One glove on my mind is the BD Spark Pro...

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    I love my RBH mittens and they work really well with vapor barrier. Bought heavy duty liners from them and use bd polartec fuzzy liners on really cold days
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    VB is the way to go. As a proof of concept, try medical nitrile gloves next-to-skin as a VB, wearing your existing liners and gloves over that. IME that will give you 10F to 20F more warmth, maybe more.

    RBH makes super warm mitts and trigger mitts which IME work best over a next-to-skin nitrile gloves.

    You can get a box of nitrile gloves from a drug store. If you wear a wedding ring or other ring, take it off, lest it will blow out the nitrile gloves in one day of use.

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    2nd the nitrile proctologist gloves. Itís shocking how much warmth they add.


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    Oh that's a great idea, I'm gonna try the nitrile first.

    My thoughts now are:
    1. Nitrile gloves as liners
    2. Breathable mittens
    3. Waterproof / VB shell on outside as needed (for wet days and/or if my hands are still cold)

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    BTW, Nitrile is partly chosen as a material of choice for lab gloves because it tears bigly after a pinprick, that way you know the material has been compromised. Latex on the other hand stays intact.
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    Nice pun
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    Quote Originally Posted by plugboots View Post
    BTW, Nitrile is partly chosen as a material of choice for lab gloves because it tears bigly after a pinprick, that way you know the material has been compromised. Latex on the other hand stays intact.
    Thanks for the tip. I'll get me some of them latex gloves after my nitriles are all ripped out. All this time I thought nitrile was the latex alternative cuz of latex allergies.

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    Nice pun
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayItLeo View Post
    2nd the nitrile proctologist gloves. Itís shocking how much warmth they add.


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    3rd on the nitrile. Personally I use the ones from the auto parts store but they are a bit thick and they usually have some kind of grip on them but I use them fishing as well and the grip helps with getting moss off of the flies.

    My hands sweat profusely but it doesnt bother me when in use. I turn (+blow) them "inside out" when I take them off then it'll dry the "inside"/new "outside" and I put them on that way, just keep rotating.

    Also, FWIW, there is a Rammstein song called "Mein Teil" and you can switch out the words "Mein Teil" with "NIGH-trile" and it doesn't mean anything but its funny. Da das ist NITRILE!!! NEIN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    3rd on the nitrile. Personally I use the ones from the auto parts store but they are a bit thick and they usually have some kind of grip on them but I use them fishing as well and the grip helps with getting moss off of the flies.

    My hands sweat profusely but it doesnt bother me when in use. I turn (+blow) them "inside out" when I take them off then it'll dry the "inside"/new "outside" and I put them on that way, just keep rotating.

    Also, FWIW, there is a Rammstein song called "Mein Teil" and you can switch out the words "Mein Teil" with "NIGH-trile" and it doesn't mean anything but its funny. Da das ist NITRILE!!! NEIN!
    Do these thicker ones last quite a bit longer? I feel like I'd tear nitrile gloves every other day or so.

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    I don't notice a massive difference when I wear nitrile gloves under my normal gloves. A little bit, but not 10-20F more. YMMV I guess.
    It's cheap and easy to try though.

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    Not saying this is you, but it took me a while to figure out that I had two choices; cold hands and comfortable core temp, or warm hands and slightly hot core temp. So I spend a lot of the time on lifts with my hand balled up in my glove. And when I'm touring if my hands become uncomfortably cold I can usually fix it by throwing on a shell. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlayItLeo View Post
    2nd the nitrile proctologist gloves. Itís shocking how much warmth they add.


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    thirded

    understand you WILL get funny looks and a comment from the waitress when you take off your gloves in the bar apres ski so try to think of a snappy amateur proctologist/ gynecologist joke ahead of time

    something else I been doing this year is instead of buying handwarmers buy toe warmers & stick the toe warmers to the inside tops of my mitts and gloves, they don't fall out on the snow when you take off your gloves for a piss

    oh and BTW it doesnt matter how cold it gets ... don't piss on yer hands
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    Quote Originally Posted by thejongiest View Post
    Do these thicker ones last quite a bit longer? I feel like I'd tear nitrile gloves every other day or so.
    Dunno if its the thickness or the construction but the Black Dragon (XXXXXXXXL no problem here, I assure you) do last a while. I'm using the same 4 for fishing since November and poked i dunno how many holes in them with fishhooks. Still not going to specifically recommend them for use with ski gloves because the cost is that with the grip, they sort of grab the insulation of the glove (both in moving and in putting them on) and add thickness overall so if it makes the fit too tight, you lose some circulation and negate the effect. A really snug nitrile seems to cause that, too. I like them fairly loose. Oh yeah, hate to be wasteful, but its like ten bucks for 500 or somethign like that. keep a few extra on you, they weigh nothing.

    Edit: in exchange for that "advice," I would like you to please suggest a good local IPA for my wife to try, as she's down your way ATM.
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    Let's be clear about one thing. The drugstore nitrile gloves may make good vapor barriers--I wouldn't know because I haven't tried--but they are worthless for doing rectal exams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte View Post
    Dunno if its the thickness or the construction but the Black Dragon (XXXXXXXXL no problem here, I assure you) do last a while. I'm using the same 4 for fishing since November and poked i dunno how many holes in them with fishhooks. Still not going to specifically recommend them for use with ski gloves because the cost is that with the grip, they sort of grab the insulation of the glove (both in moving and in putting them on) and add thickness overall so if it makes the fit too tight, you lose some circulation and negate the effect. A really snug nitrile seems to cause that, too. I like them fairly loose. Oh yeah, hate to be wasteful, but its like ten bucks for 500 or somethign like that. keep a few extra on you, they weigh nothing.

    Edit: in exchange for that "advice," I would like you to please suggest a good local IPA for my wife to try, as she's down your way ATM.
    Mmm yes, I haven't been living in Texas more than a year yet but I like the Hopadillo IPA (Houston).

    I'm from Michigan and if you haven't tried the Bell's Hopslam I highly recommend it. They only brew it every January. Last I checked they had sixers available at H-E-B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Let's be clear about one thing. The drugstore nitrile gloves may make good vapor barriers--I wouldn't know because I haven't tried--but they are worthless for doing rectal exams.
    I am probably not going to be able to convince anyone that I should give them an exam of any kind but isn't it better to just get a colonoscopy ? covered every 5 years under socialist heath care for all the comrads

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    Bump, this came up in a different thread. I keep boxes of nitrile gloves around for working on the truck and bikes etc. after reading about this (it’s been mentioned around here for years) I have been keeping some in my pack for emergencies, which is a great idea. Used them many times for various things.

    But, had never put it to the test for increasing warmth on a day where everything was good, no emergency.

    My hands are usually very dry, and I’m not a heavy sweater. Usually run medium warm personally, and where I ski it gets medium cold.

    I usually wear leather gloves, some with liners some without. Haven’t used goretex in gloves since I was a kid.

    So I tried nitrile gloves under normal leather and lined gloves on a day that was about 15F with steady 20mph wind and 40mph gusts above treeline.

    It was clammy as expected, hands sweated quite a bit more than normal, and then it was a downward spiral to frozen fingers.

    Aborted mission, warmed up, and then tried a second day just to be sure, same results. Bravo to the people who like it. Just subjective conditions and physiology I guess.

    Again, I think they are great to have in a pack for emergency. Not the least of which is if you or someone lost a glove. I usually carry a second set of leather gloves all day every day, but obv nitrile takes up zero room in comparison. Would certainly make getting back to the lodge/vehicle way easier.

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    I'm probably using the toewarmers in gloves more than a VB

    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    I am probably not going to be able to convince anyone that I should give them an exam of any kind but isn't it better to just get a colonoscopy ? covered every 5 years under socialist heath care for all the comrads

    my neighbor/ski/boat/bike drinking bud is fighting cancer, he sez because they missed it with the finger, sure hope he makes it
    the last post was 2018 so it was stage 4 cancer by the time they diagnosed it, big C got him and so buddy never made it ... get the scope people
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