OFFICIAL 2018 MLB THREAD

[ex-powderbroker]

wow, i wonder if the value of those numbers would be wildly different based on the eras they played.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

wow, i wonder if the value of those numbers would be wildly different based on the eras they played.

Trot Nixon career WAR: 21

He played in an era when all star outfielder tended to have an OPS close to or over 1. Bonds, Ramirez and McGuire are all top ten all time in career OPS. Highest 80's guy on the list is Mike Schmidt at #55.

Nixon did hit Rodger Clemens well, though, so I'd put him in the Hall of Fame for sure.

[Sirshredalot]

wow, i wonder if the value of those numbers would be wildly different based on the eras they played.

Yeah, I mean, Nixon had success in an era called October, if you want to give him credit for that.

[Brock Landers]

Did Mattingly ever play in October?

[SkiCougar]

A's now 1 behind the yank for home field for the play in game, looks like it'll happen as the A's have a much easier road to seasons end with the M's just once and the yanks still have the bosox twice and the rays.

I'm liking that.

[Danno]

Lots of hate for Donny Baseball, lol.

I'm a Mets fan so I don't even think he was the best first baseman of his era in New York. Still, there was a brief time where he was one of the very best players in baseball. And "contact hitter", sheesh, 30+ HRs meant a lot back then.

But still, he is a strong member of the Hall of the Very Good, and no way does he deserve entry into the Hall of Fame.

[ex-powderbroker]

Yeah, I mean, Nixon had success in an era called October, if you want to give him credit for that.

nixon did well given his at bats, but i don’t see how you knock a guy for lacking the opportunity to come to the plate.

mattingly had one opportunity and hit 420 but they lost.

don sutton so far is the don of dons it seems. what a career.

[irul&ublo]

A's now 1 behind the yank for home field for the play in game, looks like it'll happen as the A's have a much easier road to seasons end with the M's just once and the yanks still have the bosox twice and the rays.

I'm liking that.

A's playing better ball than Yankees at the moment. Yankees have a tough remaining schedule, 6/16 against the Sux and a series w/ TB. I think the A's will probably get home field, especially with the Yankees not hitting.

Astros are going to win the AL

[Brock Landers]

I'm a Mets fan so I don't even think he was the best first baseman of his era in New York.

Fuck I thought of that last night! Second best mustache too

[irul&ublo]

Fuck I thought of that last night! Second best mustache too

Hernandez summary stats:

SUMMARY

Career



WAR

60.4
AB

7370
R

1124
H

2182
BA

.296
HR

162
RBI

1071
SB

98

OBP

.384
SLG

.436
OPS

.821
OPS+

128

Mattingly:



SUMMARY

Career



WAR

42.4
AB

7003
R

1007
H

2153
BA

.307

HR

222
RBI

1099
SB

14
OBP

.358
SLG

.471
OPS

.830
OPS+

127


Best Stache:






Hernandez gets gnar points for being on Seinfeld

[SkiBall]

Mid Sept and we are debating fucking Trot v Donny? I mean, it's a step up in the Don v Don version, but barely.

[Brock Landers]

Not much else to debate. Yankees not pulling their weight.


Mattingly had a ridiculous mustache. In a good way

Yo Ice wake up

[iceman]

Yo Ice wake up

How'd you know? 9th inning and I fell asleep, yeesh.

[Brock Landers]

Haha I was drinking didn't see you on the interwebs

[iceman]

Yeah I was super tired and fighting it for a couple innings, I remember the 9th starting and boom, out.

[SkiCougar]

A's playing better ball than Yankees at the moment. Yankees have a tough remaining schedule, 6/16 against the Sux and a series w/ TB. I think the A's will probably get home field, especially with the Yankees not hitting.

Astros are going to win the AL

maybe not, Astros play diamondbacks this weekend and diamondbacks need to take 2 of 3 or they are probably out of the nl west race considering their recent slide. if they do, that could put the A's back in for the al west race and if the Astros fall to the play in game, it's 50/50 they move on.

[ex-powderbroker]

dave wright retires today. he had a great run before the injuries. wish it was the mets ownership stepping down and not him. the city is more interesting with two winners in town and man do they suck.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

dave wright retires today. he had a great run before the injuries. wish it was the mets ownership stepping down and not him. the city is more interesting with two winners in town and man do they suck.

He fits right in with Nomar and Mattingly in the Half Decade Hall of Fame (along with Kerry Wood, Jim Rice, and plenty of others)

[ex-powderbroker]

yea, i agree.

he fits in pretty well especially with previous generations because he aged and regressed fairly normally. his 7 year peak war of 40 isn’t so far off of the average hof 3b at 43, but he falls a few seasons short of a like in case.

the 200 mil in the bank should console him if he falls off the vote in the first year or two.

[Brownski]

My son just told me Judge is off the DL- but only for defense and base running- no hitting yet. I agree about Wright. Hopefully he’s careful with his money

[iceman]

I'm sure he's cutting coupons as we speak.

[Danno]

Nitpicking, but Wright didn't retire today. He's going to come off the DL and make one more MLB start. And even then, he isn't officially retiring.

He fits right in with Nomar and Mattingly in the Half Decade Hall of Fame (along with Kerry Wood, Jim Rice, and plenty of others)

Wright had almost a decade of solid play. He had 10 seasons of at least 1.8 WAR, and 8 seasons over 4 WAR.

I'm not sure he belongs in the Hall of the Very Good, because his career was on HoF pace, but ultimately injuries kept him from that.

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Wright had almost a decade of solid play. He had 10 seasons of at least 1.8 WAR, and 8 seasons over 4 WAR.

In his first seven seasons Nomar had 6 years of WAR over 6, two of which were over 7, and one year lost to injury. Then a whole bunch of nothing. Mattingly had some very good and great years then a decline to solid contributor. Wright was similar but somehow managed a nice resurgence after a couple down years. But I think they all have a lot in common. They were guys who looked like Hall of Famers on paper and on the field, more so than guys like Biggio or Eddie Murray who were good for ever, but rarely made you say "wow." Then injury took away what made them special. If those three stay healthy they're among the best players of their era.

[Danno]

Agree with that characterization, it was the half-decade thing that irked me (because as a Mets fan I knew it was longer than that).

[Sirshredalot]

In his first seven seasons Nomar had 6 years of WAR over 6, two of which were over 7, and one year lost to injury. Then a whole bunch of nothing. Mattingly had some very good and great years then a decline to solid contributor. Wright was similar but somehow managed a nice resurgence after a couple down years. But I think they all have a lot in common. They were guys who looked like Hall of Famers on paper and on the field, more so than guys like Biggio or Eddie Murray who were good for ever, but rarely made you say "wow." Then injury took away what made them special. If those three stay healthy they're among the best players of their era.

Agreed in general. But people forget how good Biggio was at his peak. Baseball reference has him at 9.4 WAR in 1997, for example. I remember the Bill James essay comparing him to Griffey.

I guess 2b is always under-appreciated and the twilight of his career chasing 3000 hits as a meh corner outfielder left a bad impression.