Is narrow the new fat?

[skaredshtles]

IMHO GS race skis are a lot of fun on groomers.

My one experience with DH skis tells me that they are not so much fun... More like terrifying.

They don't really come alive until you're going about 50mph.

[buttahflake]

Maybe some one needs to learn how to ski...

Yep, you do. Hitch kicker.

[reckless toboggan]

They don't really come alive until you're going about 50mph.

The 108s I'm on really light up between 60 and 100 mph, but anything over 45 is still fun.

[buttahflake]

Hip dumping, park and ride. I can see it now. So lame.
Go on now.

[reckless toboggan]

Hip dumping, park and ride. I can see it now. So lame.
Go on now.

Hahah. Not sure why you're confessing that about your skiing. Sounds like your technique is terrible. Maybe take a lesson.

[buttahflake]

So. Very. Lame.

Go. On. Now.

[reckless toboggan]

So. Very. Lame.

Go. On. Now.

I'm starting to get the picture...you're the guy who buys the $9,000 Enduro race mountainbike with 7 inches of suspension, and gets his doors blown off by guys on 5 inch AM bikes.

Got it.


Come on up to Nakiska, the Lake, or the Horse and I'll show you around Buttah.

[buttahflake]

Oh Shit yer from canaduh. I’m done here. Canaduh is dumb as fuck. My bike is a 140, dummy.
Go on now

[reckless toboggan]

Oh Shit yer from canaduh. I’m done here. Canaduh is dumb as fuck.

We didn't elect Trump. Morans in glass houses and all that.

Get yourself out of New Jersey,...come on up and ski for real.

Go on now.

[N1CK.]

May daily drivers are 106.

I'm STRONGLY considering adding these as my every-day Colorado ski:

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218cm?

Nice.


Do they make those in an adult version?

[reckless toboggan]

May daily drivers are 106.

I'm STRONGLY considering adding these as my every-day Colorado ski:

Attachment 222827

218cm?

Nice.


Do they make those in an adult version?

Dayum! That's a super tempting deal. Even just for fun long ski days. Although the the hostage plate kind kills it.

I have some 2x4 narrow assed 207 dynastar raceroom GS skis with Sally 920's from bitd that fit a similar bill.

[LeeLau]

it certainly is a trend I have been seeing.... I grew up skiing moguls so I've been pretty stoked on having a skinnier stick for spring and summer skiing. I had some K2 Wayback 88s the last few years and just got some mtn explore 88s and I love em! I still use a 100+ mm ski on most winter days though.

there was a totally deep podcast episode recently with lou dawson, and those guys had a circle jerk going on about the ultimate touring ski, which they all think is around 85mm.

How do you like the Salomon Mtn Explore paired with the F1s? I've been looking at boots and getting something more on the uphill side of things.... Do you ever ski the F1s with a bigger ski?

Love the Mtn Explores with the F1s. I've skied the F1s on ZeroG 95s and ZeroG 108s. Good in perfect pow but what isn't? A bit undergunned with bigger skis in mank

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

Oh Shit yer from canaduh. I’m done here. Canaduh is dumb as fuck.... Go on now

in 2017, canada ranked 3rd in global math and science education, trumplandia ranked 14th;
yes, you certainly are done ...... take a lap

[2FUNKY]

Those skis have horrible edge grip compared to something a tad narrower. If you wanted to champion edge grip in a wide ski, LP105 or XXLs are much better hardpack skis... but I'd rather be on something in 70-80mm range if we're talking groomer skis. If you're saying you like to smutz around off-piste on chalky hardpack that's a little different.

Bullshit and I've owned both. As I know you have. I have ZERO issue with edge grip on my Goliaths. They have the same edge grip, the Goliath has more pop where the LP is more dead feeling. I only have close to 100ish days on the LP though and about 25 on the Goliath and not once have I thought the Goliath didn't have the edge hold of the LP. While the Goliath will release easier when commanded than the LP, that doesn't equate to lack of edge hold.

[reckless toboggan]

Bullshit and I've owned both. As I know you have. I have ZERO issue with edge grip on my Goliaths. They have the same edge grip, the Goliath has more pop where the LP is more dead feeling. I only have close to 100ish days on the LP though and about 25 on the Goliath and not once have I thought the Goliath didn't have the edge hold of the LP. While the Goliath will release easier when commanded than the LP, that doesn't equate to lack of edge hold.

Yup. The Goliaths were a perfect replacement/improvement for the same duties as my LP XXLs from somewhere in the oughts.

Almost pulled the trigger on RC112s, but never did. Still wish I had.

The deal on the Goliaths was just too good to pass up, and they rail just as hard as the LP XXLs (especially before Dynastar softened them up. A buddy had the later version of the LP, a couple years before they switched to the Cham series, and at some point Dynastar really softened the LP lineup, into more of a surfy pow ski flex in the tip and forebody. Flexed a lot like, but a little softer overall, than the EHP actually).

[TahoeJ]

108 is not a hardpack ski. Jesus Christ this place is fucked.

Agreed.

Groomer day: 88-92mm

A few inches to a foot or so: 105 - 110mm

It fucking dumped and it's not upsidedown: 120+

[2FUNKY]

108 is not a hardpack ski. Jesus Christ this place is fucked.

This.
It's not hard pack very often here so I don't own anything under 102.

[Paddymc]

Is narrow the new fat?

Yup.





"Fat" skies I've tried in the last year - Zero G 108, Helio 105, Helio 116, Sportiva Vapor Nano 105. Not a single one as much fun (for me) as my Dynafit Carbonio 89's or (on the right day) my skimo sticks.

YMMV

[Paddymc]

^ sellin any?

No, one of the joys of being a shop rat is getting to try a bunch of skis somebody else owns.
But, for what it's worth, after trying a bunch of stuff, I spent my money on the Carbonio's (no pro deal to be had on a limited edition ski, and I still still bought 'em). So did two of my co workers. Maybe it's just living in Sun Valley rather than somewhere it snows two feet at a time, but I don't really wish for more underfoot.

[Mofro261]

Is narrow the new fat?

Only if old the new young.

Yesterday I skied pow on 122, 105, and 65 mm skis throughout a looong day.

At speed it doesn't really matter, it's only when you slow down that you'll notice the advantage of girth.

Or that's what she said.

[rainy512day]

remember when 100 underfoot was fat?

Remember when 74mm was mid-fat? K2 Xplorer, v
Volant PowerKarves

[Bdog325]

The thing about super fat skis is that you'll never have knee deep powder because you'll always be sitting on top of it.

Make money. Buy toys.

[shirk]

Warms my heart to see all those Goliaths I sold off on closeout cheap are well loved.

It won that gear of the year award in Outside and we didn't have enough on hand and sold out. The next year we upped our order and brought a lot more into North America but it seems that the next year rocker was all the trend and we didn't sell that many. Movement should have made a 185 version of that same ski.

[Vitamin I]

108 is not a hardpack ski. Jesus Christ this place is fucked.

How is a place fucked just because someone in that place slides on hardpack with 108mm-waist skis?

Shane skied on 1983 Chevy El Camino bumpers and it looked pretty fun.
https://books.google.ca/books?id=os-...camino&f=false

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[Nevada29er]

I can't believe this thread is 4 pages long..