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04-05-2020, 11:52 AM #826Registered User
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https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5034-6...SABEgLr1_D_BwE
200 grams ^^
I took the straps off my Vulcans cuz they fell off on day 2 so I never bothered putting them back, its just something to get in the way besides I don't miss them on a touring boot that is already really stiff
i do have boosters on my alpine bootsLast edited by XXX-er; 04-05-2020 at 03:01 PM.
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04-07-2020, 03:23 PM #827Registered User
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04-09-2020, 04:20 PM #828
what crampons are folks using with these? my old green CAMP aluminum ones don't really fit great, kinda between notches on the adjustment bar and even with the heel thing adjusted to max tightness, not inspiring confidence... 26.5 boots fwiw. I really despise the hiking shoe type of crampon attachment... would prefer the metal toe bar / heel clip thing (clueless on terminology), and would like steel in the forefoot at least for walking on rocks. I can deal w/the weight of full steel but don't need anything designed for leading on ice.
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04-09-2020, 04:39 PM #829Registered User
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Petzl Irvis Hybrid
Them is the tits on any sort of crampon use that doesn't involve sustained technical ice. Hell I've even climbed AI2 in them with trail runners on with the full straps. But for my ski boot needs they are awesome in the full auto configuration.TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
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04-09-2020, 04:42 PM #830
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04-09-2020, 04:56 PM #831
camp xlc 390 automatics work great for me.
wouldn't recommend any aluminum crampon for walking on rocks
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04-09-2020, 06:27 PM #832
Anyone have experience with the Grivel Haute Routes? I've been eyeballing them the past couple of weeks.
https://skimo.co/grivel-haute-route-crampons
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04-09-2020, 06:55 PM #833
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04-09-2020, 06:59 PM #834
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04-09-2020, 09:01 PM #835Registered User
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04-10-2020, 05:15 AM #836
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04-10-2020, 05:46 AM #837
So, one guy reviewing them (Irvis Hybrid) on skimo quickly wore out the Dyneema cord. One review is just that.
I suppose it can be viewed as a maintenance item if it checks all the other boxes. I'm not sure that describes me.
OTOH, a connecting bar can fail and there's no field fix for that.
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04-10-2020, 10:44 AM #838Registered User
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04-10-2020, 11:12 AM #839
hmm. I'm just skeptical of the cord... I've seen some Alien RS cords break in the field (not the same thing I realize) and fiddling with that seems sucky. The connecting bar on my green CAMP alu pons is pretty bomber... but, I will probably give the Irvis a try anyway because I do want that steel front section. I used my green CAMPs this morning and they were ok though... without being mega fuckin tight they would come off my Fischer Carbon Travers, and they aren't mega tight on the ZGTP but were fine, maybe cuz the toe welt on the Fischers was shorter...? or maybe I just got lucky. either way, "using crampons" for me invariably means that I will accidentally step on a lot of rocks.
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04-10-2020, 04:28 PM #840
I'm kind of on the fence, and was also considering the Grivel Skimatic, with the front-fixation - no interference with the walk mode lever, although I can't visualize having the lever in ski mode when using 'pons.
3 really good choices, including the Petzels.
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04-10-2020, 07:29 PM #841
I have and dig haute routes; i use em on tlt6’s though, so not able to comment on zgtp.
Otherwise totally satisfied although I do occasionally wish I’d gone for the skimatics though, can’t help being curious.
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04-10-2020, 07:47 PM #842
Hey Greg!
Studying the Haute Routes, it appears as if the rear lever has a chance of clearing the tour lock on ZGTPs when in ski mode.
Not a big deal if it doesn't, but I'm still curious. I think you're in 26.5s?
I'm waffling. The packability of the Irvis is indeed tempting. BTW, a buddy who owns the Irvis told me that there's no interference with his F1 walk mode latch. Probably OK with ZGTPs.
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04-11-2020, 12:24 PM #843Registered User
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Reports on the net of the dyneema stretching and having to be readjusted after first few uses? I didn't think that dyneema stretched but maybe everything has to work in. Any real world experiences?
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04-11-2020, 02:36 PM #846Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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04-12-2020, 02:26 PM #848Registered User
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I also use the Irvis hybrid and love them. What I was told to do that works quite well is to fit them to the boot and leave them overnight to allow for any stretch. Then check fit again and tighten if necessary. After that, just leave where it is - I’ve never had any problem with them coming remotely close to popping off.
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04-12-2020, 03:36 PM #849
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